OK, ok... so a certain BORG (Trisha Griffith) was posting this HUGE story about how she had sent the 911 tape to an "expert" and he was going to prove Lin Wood lied - that there was conversation on the 911 tape after Lin claimed she had hung up.

For the benefit of the lurker who is not sure what I am talking about, I will explain...

Patsy called 911. The tape was released earlier this year - anyone could (and did) get a copy from the DA's office. We got a copy of the original and a copy of the CD that had been made from the original.

We all heard the tape - our computer nerds worked on the tapes and enhanced the recordings and most of us determined that the sounds after the hangup were from the tape recorders themselves. We didn't hear Patsy speaking and we certainly did NOT hear any conversation between John and Burke.

Let me explain further. At the end of the call, there is a repetitive sound after the hangup which I personally believe is nothing more than the sounds of the recorder as the wheel to wheel tape goes around. The BORG claimed it was Patsy crying, "Help me, Jesus. Help me, Jesus. Help me, Jesus."

Now why the BORG thinks anyone would lie about something like that is beyond me. If she said that, SO WHAT??? Why would anyone have any need to deny it? Why would anyone deny being able to pull that out of the tape? (CBS said they didn't hear any words at that point, heard "something" but no words.)

If the tape showed Patsy saying those words,it would mean nothing, but the fact is, that sound is not clear and can not be positively attributed to the tape recorder OR Patsy.

The BORG's expert claimed he heard a female voice: "Help me, Jesus. Help me, Jesus. Help me, Jesus."

I will discuss this further this in my next post.

on the BORG expert's report....

One thing I personally found interesting is that the early published transcripts of the tapes had the 911 operator asking if the caller was "Kath..." but when I listened to the tapes closely I clearly heard the operator say "Pats" - - I believe the operator could see the number the call was being made from - and could see that it was listed as the phone of John and Patsy Ramsey.

Is it just a coincidence that the expert hired by the BORG has "Kath" in his transcript? I think not. I think he was looking at a transcript presented to him by Tricia Griffith and didn't correct that error.

I don't know the man or his company - - but that little thing makes me believe that man was going to TRY to give Triciathe transcript she wanted.

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But he didn't - and that has me laughing out loud.

OK - - so Tricia promised that her expert was going to prove the Ramseys were lying when they said Burke was not in the room, that her expert was going to prove we were all liars. Her expert would bring out the conversation between John and Burke.

Well...

Her "Expert" has spoken - his report is published on the BORG forum after MANY requests for this update - the report.

The big thing that the BORG believed would be exposed - the non-existant conversation between John and Burke... well, their expert didn't hear it.

The report is dated March 3rd, Tricia says she was too busy to post it but she was, in fact, posting constantly and taking over another forum and moderating - - all things one might think would wait a bit so she could share this report she was crowing about for months - - - bet if he found John and Burke talking she wouldn't have been so busy. No, I think she was unhappy having to share that report. I personally think she likely BEGGED him to find that conversation.

I want to thank Mr. Ginsberg for being honest about what he heard- - nothing.

Professional Audio Laboratories in N.Y. did the work on the 911 tape.

http://www.proaudiolabs.com

Mr. Paul Ginsberg is the one who wrote the report.

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Tricia is - obviously - unhappy. She posted, "What Mr. Ginsberg did not hear unfortunately was Burke or John. He is not surprised. He warned me. This generation of copy is like mud basically."

LOL - - We have the tape - it isn't mud - - just doesn't have the conversation in it that Tricia and the BORG were praying for.

Tricia did not share the entire report - - just the cover page and transcript - but she does admit that "... he did not pick up any editing attempts." But she tries to make that a minimal statement because he didn't have some "robot" that Spade (how do you spell nottobetrusted?) had.

Tricia answered my question - I asked, in other words", why anyone would think the RST would feel any need to "... cover up a distraught mother saying, 'Help me Jesus?'"

Tricia's answer?

Please make sure you are not drinking when you read this - - I will NOT clean up your keyboards...

Her answer?

"Because. There is more to the "help me Jesus" than they want us to know."

Oh yeah - - that statement under the circumstances could ONLY come from a killer! (don't you believe it)

(To be continued - real life just called.).

Tricia seems to be unaware of the fact that Lin Wood and the Ramseys had wanted the 911 tape released earlier. She posted that she was "...certain Keenan made Lin Wood go home and change his underpants the day she announced she was releasing the tape."

How stupid is that statement? The Ramseys and Lin welcomed the release of the tape because it proved the BORG stories about a conversation between Burke and John were LIES!

Tricia posted that shortly after the tape was released, "... Lin Wood shut the hell up about the tape."

The fact is that Lin let the tape speak for itself - - he didn't need to say anything.

That Tricia, she is quite a joker.

NO SURPRISES HERE! I have been following that thread for months and months and ...

Tricia said she had the report oh so long ago. Posters kept pressuring her to release the report. Too busy, HA! I agree, had the report ANYTHING AT ALL negative in it, we'd have seen it 8 weeks ago! So now the tape is "mud"; I thought it was "mayonnaise".

I have ALWAYS BEEN OFFENDED by the "Lin Wood Lied" part of the title of that thread. MANY APOLOGIES are OWING FROM TRICIA and HER FORUM, IMO. I have yet to see a "lie" from EITHER Lin Wood, any of the Ramseys, or Lou Smit.

SPADE's report has never been seen. HA! They cover up the TRUTH and then head off to Colorado to see Gov. Owens. I hope they took that long-winded Delmar England along and continue to make fools of themselves. They have made fools of themselves and they make fools of us all by association. UGH!

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Tricia posted, and I quote - "Because he didn't find an edit attempt or he couldn't hear Burke's voice doesn't mean both are not on the tape."

ROTFLMAOPIMP

Tricia's credibility is nonexistant as far as I am concerned - - and her activities are, to be less kind than Lin, assinine. Totally assinine. Nasty, BORG and assinine.

(I know, I know. I shouldn't hold back and should tell you what I really think. *grin*)

Tricia posted, and I quote - "Because he didn't find an edit attempt or he couldn't hear Burke's voice doesn't mean both are not on the tape."

WHAT does it take? How many lab analyses have to be done to "get it"? Here we have a report from ONE PERSON (Steve Thomas) that there was an enhancement done at Aerospace and deciphered by Melissa Hickman. No one from the inner circle (that I know of) has ever confirmed what Steve Thomas stated. No one (not even Melissa Hickman).

I've packed all my books, so someone please confirm my poor memory--but wasn't Hickman removed from the case? Why? To keep her silent?

Let's see, the tape was not edited, technology has far surpassed what was available in 1997, Aerospace supposedly lifted a conversation from a third generation copy (from original tape to a computer disc to an audio tape...) so if what Aerospace supposedly lifted is actually there, shouldn't a modern lab be able to lift the same thing today?

Hah.

Rainsong

Yes, Rainsong, Melissa Hickman was removed from the case mid-May of 1997. She was reassigned to other cases needing attention from the BPD.

Daily Camera
Alli Krupski
June 5, 1997

Officials said they removed Arndt and Detective Melissa Hickman from the Ramsey case in mid-May because detectives were needed to work on other investigations.

(Actually, Arndt took a medical leave.)

No one explained why Hickman was removed from the case- - would be an interesting question to have answered.

LOLOLOL

Tricia posts:
"I would advise Susan Bennet to not bother Mr. Ginsberg with obsessive calls and letters. He is not someone who will sit back and take it. Nor will I."

Tricia - you are a joke. You posted that you had an expert who was going to prove the Ramseys lied about Burke being in the room - - your experts were going to prove he WAS there. I knew that would never happen - - Burke wasnot in the room and was not talking to anyone at that time - he was in his room pretending to be asleep.

You couldn't deliver because you were wrong.

You got pushed into posting what you WERE told - - must have been humiliating. Once again your promises fall flat.

Now you want to tell me how to deal with your garbage? Tell me who I can contact?

What a joke!

More from Mr. Ginsberg

I have found Mr. Ginsberg to be very kind. He doesn't seem bothered by my inquiries and has responded onceagain.

He advised me that the whispers being attributed to Patsy were, "...probably on the original tape from which the CD was made."

I wrote back...

I spoke to the investigators about the tapes and they said they didn't know why there would be any differences between the tapes (cassette and CD). They told me personally that they didn't hear any voices on the original - - didn't know why there would be a hint of anything on copies.

My reel to reel is a TEAC that was used in a recording studio.... the sound I referred to is not terribly loud but does exist. Not noticable when the tape is actually playing, but when the tape is blank, it does makea sound. Did Boulder have better equipment? I honestly doubt it - but maybe.

I know Tricia was counting on you to say that Patsy was on there saying, "Help me, Jesus" repeatedly - - I wonder if you knew before listening that those were the words she expected. I do think it makes a difference.

I know she REALLY wanted you to put John and Burke in the room talking. I also know that John and Burke were not talking in the room at that time - Burke was upstairs pretending to be asleep.

Thanks for telling the truth on the lack of conversation between John and Burke. I wish you had written a full report stating that - so she would have to share that as well as the "thumbs up on Patsy in prayer."

Again, I want to thank you for your time and letters. I would love to see the Ramsey case solved - - I don't think the 911 tape is going to help get that done. But I do think the important thing in this situation is the FACT that one more audio expert didn't hear Burke and John on that tape.

jameson