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BlueCrab
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12-30-04, 09:50 AM (EST)
 
"Burke Didn't Do It"
 
   A New Year is coming and I'm turning over a new leaf. Burke didn't do it, but I've had a great time over the last few years getting people riled up with all my various theories about how BDI. Does anyone seriously believe I thought a 9-year old was capable of EA games with his 6-year sister, bashing in her skull, writing a 3 page RN AND keeping quiet about it for 8 years?????????????????????????? Get real. Now that I've let you all in on my little secret, I sure hope you'll forgive me for having a little fun at Burke's expense.

:D

Happy New Year,
BlueCrab


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  RE: Burke Didn't Do It Margoo 12-30-04 1
     RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-30-04 2
         RE: Burke Didn't Do It candy 12-30-04 3
             RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-30-04 4
                 RE: Burke Didn't Do It Ashley 12-30-04 5
                     RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-30-04 6
                         RE: Burke Didn't Do It Ashley 12-30-04 7
                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-30-04 8
                                 RE: Burke Didn't Do It Jasmine 12-30-04 9
                                     RE: Burke Didn't Do It Margoo 12-30-04 10
                                         RE: Burke Didn't Do It sissi 12-30-04 11
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It Tinker 12-30-04 12
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It Ashley 12-30-04 13
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-31-04 14
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It Jasmine 12-31-04 15
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It Margoo 12-31-04 16
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It Ashley 12-31-04 17
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-31-04 21
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-31-04 19
  RE: Burke Didn't Do It iamjc 12-31-04 18
     RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-31-04 20
         RE: Burke Didn't Do It iamjc 12-31-04 22
             RE: Burke Didn't Do It Ashley 12-31-04 23
                 RE: Burke Didn't Do It Ashley 12-31-04 24
                     RE: Burke Didn't Do It Ashley 12-31-04 25
                         RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-31-04 35
                     RE: Burke Didn't Do It Margoo 12-31-04 26
                         From the Real Bluecrab Jayelles 12-31-04 27
                             RE: From the Real Bluecrab Margoo 12-31-04 29
                             RE: From the Real Bluecrab BlueCrab 12-31-04 31
                         RE: Burke Didn't Do It Margoo 12-31-04 28
                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It One_eyed_Jack 12-31-04 30
                         RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-31-04 36
                     RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-31-04 32
                         RE: Burke Didn't Do It Margoo 12-31-04 33
                             Margoo Jayelles 12-31-04 34
                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-31-04 37
                                 RE: Burke Didn't Do It Margoo 12-31-04 38
                                     RE: Burke Didn't Do It Jayelles 12-31-04 40
                                         RE: Burke Didn't Do It Margoo 12-31-04 41
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It Jayelles 12-31-04 44
                                 RE: Burke Didn't Do It Jayelles 12-31-04 39
                                     RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-31-04 42
                                         RE: Burke Didn't Do It Jayelles 12-31-04 43
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It Real_Bluecrab 12-31-04 45
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It Justice_Seekermoderator 12-31-04 46
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-31-04 50
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It DocWatson 12-31-04 56
                                             RE: Doc Watson Margoo 12-31-04 64
                                             RE: Doc Watson DocWatson 12-31-04 65
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-31-04 47
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It Jayelles 12-31-04 49
                                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It BlueCrab 12-31-04 59
     RE: Burke Didn't Do It Evening2 12-31-04 52
     iamjc iamjc 12-31-04 53
         RE: iamjc Justice_Seekermoderator 12-31-04 60
     RE: Burke Didn't Do It Margoo 12-31-04 54
         The Rulemaker speaks. The RuleMaker 12-31-04 55
             RE: The Rulemaker speaks. Margoo 12-31-04 57
                 RE: The Rulemaker speaks. Margoo 12-31-04 58
                     RE: The Rulemaker speaks. Jayelles 12-31-04 61
                         RE: The Rulemaker speaks. Justice_Seekermoderator 12-31-04 62
                         RE: The Rulemaker speaks. BlueCrab 12-31-04 63
                             RE: The Rulemaker speaks. sissi 12-31-04 66
                                 Who Are You? BlueCrab 12-31-04 68
                                     RE: Who Are You? DocWatson 12-31-04 71
  RE: Burke Didn't Do It carol bell 12-31-04 67
     RE: Burke Didn't Do It Margoo 12-31-04 69
         RE: Imposter BlueCrab BlueCrab 12-31-04 70
             RE: Imposter BlueCrab DocWatson 12-31-04 72
         RE: Burke Didn't Do It DocWatson 12-31-04 73
     RE: Burke Didn't Do It sissi 12-31-04 74
         RE: Burke Didn't Do It seymour 01-01-05 75
             RE: Burke Didn't Do It spriggy 01-01-05 76
                 RE: Burke Didn't Do It Margoo 01-01-05 77
                     RE: Burke Didn't Do It Ashley 01-01-05 78
                         RE: Burke Didn't Do It Jayelles 01-01-05 79
                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It jamesonadmin 01-01-05 80
                         RE: Imposter BlueCrab BlueCrab 01-01-05 81
                             RE: Imposter BlueCrab jamesonadmin 01-01-05 82
                                 RE: Burke being cleared BlueCrab 01-01-05 86
                                     RE: Burke being cleared shawn 01-01-05 87
                     RE: Burke Didn't Do It one_eyed_Jack 01-01-05 83
                         RE: Burke Didn't Do It Ashley 01-01-05 84
                             RE: Burke Didn't Do It jamesonadmin 01-01-05 85
                             RE: Imposter BlueCrab Ashley 01-01-05 88
                                 moderator sissi 01-01-05 89
                                     RE: moderator Jasmine 01-01-05 90
                                         RE: moderator Jayelles 01-01-05 91
                                             RE: moderator Jasmine 01-01-05 93
                                 RE: Imposter BlueCrab iamjc 01-01-05 92
                                     RE: Imposter BlueCrab BlueCrab 01-01-05 94
                                         RE: Imposter BlueCrab jamesonadmin 01-01-05 95
                                             RE: Imposter BlueCrab Margoo 01-01-05 96
                                             RE: Imposter BlueCrab Margoo 01-01-05 97
                                             RE%3A Imposter BlueCrab jamesonadmin 01-02-05 98
                                             RE: Imposter BlueCrab Jayelles 01-02-05 99
                                             RE: Imposter BlueCrab jamesonadmin 01-02-05 100
                                             RE: Imposter BlueCrab jayelles 01-02-05 101
                                             RE: Imposter BlueCrab BlueCrab 01-02-05 102

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Margoo
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12-30-04, 10:18 AM (EST)
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1. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #0
 
   Gee, "BlueCrab", and you came to THIS forum to say that, while posting no such 'confession' at your home forum. Now, why would that be?


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BlueCrab
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12-30-04, 10:45 AM (EST)
 
2. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #1
 
   I'm "test-driving" my confession here among friendly faces. I was hoping for a somewhat less hostile reaction than you have offered.
My New Year's resolution is to post it "over there" but to be honest, I don't really consider that my "home" anymore. 75% of those wackos think RDI!
Best wishes,

BlueCrab


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candy
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12-30-04, 11:05 AM (EST)
 
3. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #2
 
   The only way BlueCrab, a true believer after all the BDI lawsuits paid out to the Ramseys, would say Burke didn't do it is to "switch" to Nathan, or Doug Stine.


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BlueCrab
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12-30-04, 01:51 PM (EST)
 
4. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #3
 
   I have posted repeatedly a) why I am CERTAIN neither Patsy nor John wrote the RN; and b) the overwhelming evidence that a stun gun was used. Admittedly, in recent weeks I have been "over there" trying to convince people it could have been anyone in APAC who did this, but I have long known Nathan was in California that Christmas and there is no credible evidence that JBR's murder served any APAC purpose. You'll note that I've recently stated that it just isn't credible that the parents would cover for anyone EXCEPT a young child, which is a signal that I don't really think Nathan was involved.

But with Nathan or any other quasi-adult figure in the picture, my EA scenario doesn't really hold water, which pretty much gets Burke and Doug Stine both off the hook, especially since the DNA evidence does not implicate any male Ramsey. From now on, I am committed to following the evidence: an intruder did it and he wasn't invited.
Have a great New Year,

BlueCrab


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Ashley
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12-30-04, 02:10 PM (EST)
 
5. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #4
 
   OH WHATEVER! YOu are SICK! If this is BC, which I doubt, maybe him a little afraid of a certain someone suing his azz! Too late, BC, the damage is DONE!


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BlueCrab
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12-30-04, 03:26 PM (EST)
 
6. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #5
 
   >OH WHATEVER! YOu are SICK! If this is BC, which I doubt,
>maybe him a little afraid of a certain someone suing his
>azz! Too late, BC, the damage is DONE!

Lin Wood had nothing to do with this. I just got tired of playing games with everyone.
Happy Holidays,
BlueCrab


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Ashley
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12-30-04, 03:45 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #6
 
   What is wrong with you??


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BlueCrab
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12-30-04, 04:32 PM (EST)
 
8. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #7
 
   >What is wrong with you??

Why can't a veteran reporter turn over a new leaf? I take New Year's resolutions seriously and I think 8 years is long enough for playing games. I've got other fish to fry. What's wrong with you? I would think you'd be happy with my change of heart.
Happy New Year,

BlueCrab


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Jasmine
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12-30-04, 04:34 PM (EST)
 
9. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #8
 
   I find this quite amuzing!


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Margoo
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12-30-04, 05:24 PM (EST)
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10. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #9
 
   Okay "BlueCrab", I'll bite. My earlier post is a statement of uncertainty as to your identity, but if it really is "you", will you help me understand something, please.

WHY, (oh why oh why) did you play this game with such serious allegations and hard-fought arguments for the past eight years? WHY did you "play a game" at the expense of a child, his child-friend, and a young man just starting out in life? YOU KNOW that your arguments were sometimes outright misuse of facts (okay, let's call 'em lies) and the lamest of lame. WHY? WHO were you playing with? The posters? The Ramseys? Trying to see "who" had enough intelligence to see through you? Trying to see who did not?

The BIGGER question is >>>>> WHY haven't you made this admission today on your "home" (preferred) place for posting? You are still arguing with posters that Burke, Doug, and Nathan were involved in JBR's death. Just hours ago, you posted your claim that Burke wrote the note. Come on ..... the best 'net sleuthers are right here on this discussion board. ;-)


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sissi
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12-30-04, 05:27 PM (EST)
 
11. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #10
 
   Most of us that have "hung in there" for the last eight years aren't about to give up on our pet theories. Blue Crab I'm certain is alive and well, while giving up a rib for the new clone (I suspect)


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Tinker
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12-30-04, 07:27 PM (EST)
 
12. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #11
 
   JonBenet's parents are not looking for the murderer of their daughter. They have not followed through on anything that they have offered to solve this crime.

Why should anyone else care about a battered and beaten to death, angel, when her parents have moved on with their lives?

8 years? The Ramsey's got over this a long time ago.

BC, you are right on. Time to move on with lives, this case is over. Never to be solved.


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Ashley
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12-30-04, 09:57 PM (EST)
 
13. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #12
 
   BC, is right ON, you say? HAHHAHAHA. He's only been calliing a 10 year old child a molester and killer of his little sister for EIGHT years, WITH NOTHING TO back it up!!! All OVER the internet for EIGHT years!!!!

Now, it's time to move on and forget all about it, like it never happened? I don't think so!!! IT was a joke? BC,is a JOKE, alrite! A big fat UGLY joke. I hope someone sues the hell out of you!


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 00:31 AM (EST)
 
14. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #13
 
   Burke was 9, not 10.
I believed in the possibility that BDI for many years and tried to evaluate all the evidence to see if it "fit" that theory. At the end of the day, too many pieces didn't fit. I didn't mean to imply this was a joke from the get-go.

For at least a year I haven't believed Burke did it, but didn't really want to admit I was wrong, so I just kept trying to toss out supporting evidence in hopes that someone would make a connection. At some level, I knew in my heart this was deceptive since I was pretty convinced in my head that there was no way one could reasonably believe this theory. For the past 6 months I've been pretty convinced Burke didn't do it and tried to see whether any flavor of Nathan theory worked. But again, lots of that was just toying around. I don't have any hard evidence Nathan was involved and have to make too many leaps of faith to believe he was. Same goes for everyone else in APAC.

Happy New Year,
BlueCrab


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Jasmine
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12-31-04, 00:51 AM (EST)
 
15. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #14
 
   BlueCrab, you really do have to toy around with suspects! See if the pieces fit for your suspect. That is what we all do! I never considered Burke. He was cleared and I dont see a healthy, normal 9 yr old into EA. I certainly dont see a 9 yr old writing the RN and no way could PR have written it after such a horrible thing happened to her child. Before I start to rant Ill quit.


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Margoo
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12-31-04, 01:50 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #15
 
   BlueCrab

WHY aren't you admitting this elsewhere?

WHY would you do such a thing to a child? If you wanted to "test" a theory, why were you so persistent when there were so many INTELLIGENT, LOGICAL posters pointing out the error of your ways? There were so MANY holes in your theory.

What is your connection to Crime Magazine and Ryan Ross?

What rag were you a "journalist" with?

Oh, BlueCrab, I have a million of 'em....

Margoo


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Ashley
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12-31-04, 02:05 AM (EST)
 
17. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #16
 
   He had to "toy" around with a NINE year old innocent little boy?? Did he really have to do that? I think NOT! There was no toying going on. He blantantly SLANDERED Burke Ramsey day in and day out. A defenseless child.


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 11:20 AM (EST)
 
21. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #17
 
   > He had to "toy" around with a NINE year old innocent little
>boy?? Did he really have to do that? I think NOT! There was
>no toying going on. He blantantly SLANDERED Burke Ramsey day
>in and day out. A defenseless child.

Slander is "spoken defamation." It does not apply to Internet postings. Perhaps you meant libel? If I've done anything wrong, wouldn't you expect Lin Wood to instantaneously be on my case? Lin Wood has never contacted me and to my knowledge has never asked that "other forum" to remove my postings. Hence, I judge you to be on thin ice, legally speaking, in levelling this accusation against me.


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 11:08 AM (EST)
 
19. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #16
 
   >BlueCrab
>
>WHY aren't you admitting this elsewhere?
>
>WHY would you do such a thing to a child? If you wanted to
>"test" a theory, why were you so persistent when there were
>so many INTELLIGENT, LOGICAL posters pointing out the error
>of your ways? There were so MANY holes in your theory.
>
>What is your connection to Crime Magazine and Ryan Ross?
>
>What rag were you a "journalist" with?
>
>Oh, BlueCrab, I have a million of 'em....
>
>Margoo

This "test drive" of a confession and apology is leading me to believe I am better off NOT admitting this elsewhere. If I'm getting this much heat here, just imagine how I'll get roasted over there.

I didn't "do" anything to Burke. He doesn't read the boards. I simply reported evidence that "fit" BDI and let everyone draw their own conclusions. Sure, with the benefit of hindsight, I can be accused of not being as logically rigorous as perhaps I could have been. But the 911 tape still sure is a puzzle to me: isn't it to you? That's the strongest evidence the parents were covering up and my theory rests pretty heavily on that presumption.

I could tell ya my connection to Ryan Ross, but then I'd have to kill ya etc.

I don't consider NY Times a "rag" although I realize the Jayson Blair thing has sort of made people skeptical of the Gray Lady. How do you think we were so quickly able to find proof-positive that BAD was a fraud? Our resources to investigate are a bit scary, when you think about it. Not that it's done JBR any good...

Happy New Year,

BlueCrab



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iamjc
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12-31-04, 09:08 AM (EST)
 
18. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #0
 
   lol!

BlueCrab, has the Colorado child code law been amended since 1996?

Happy New Year to you, iamjc


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 11:16 AM (EST)
 
20. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #18
 
   >lol!
>
>BlueCrab, has the Colorado child code law been amended since
>1996?
>
>Happy New Year to you, iamjc

The 1996 changes actually didn't become effective until January 1, 1997, but even if these had been in force, it wouldn't have affected Burke, since he was 9 at the time JBR was murdered and "aggravated juvenile offenders" were redefined to be ages 10-12. http://ojjdp.ncjrs.org/pubs/reform/ch3_b.html

To my knowledge, there have been no significant subsequent changes to the Colorado children's code.


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iamjc
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12-31-04, 11:26 AM (EST)
 
22. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #20
 
   Thanking you for your kind response, BlueCrab, iamjc.


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Ashley
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12-31-04, 01:51 PM (EST)
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23. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #22
 
   LAST EDITED ON 12-31-04 AT 01:54 PM (EST)
 
You didn't DO ANYTHING to Burke Ramsey, BC? Type his name into a search engine and see what comes up.

THAT is there FOREVER. THERE for his classmates, his future employers or co-workers to read. His friends. HIM, HIMSELF! How do you think he'll feel when he reads your vile LIES and sick imagination about what YOU thought he did to his baby sister?

Oh yes, YOU did something to HIM. ALL for what? What did you get out of it? I sure hope it was worth the pain and hurt you've caused a little boy. Now a young man with his whole life ahead of him. Do you honestly think he can ever escape this? No! Thanks to you!


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Ashley
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12-31-04, 01:59 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #23
 
   I just read your post regarding Lin Wood. I wasn't going to tell you this but you forced me too, I know exactly where Lin Wood stands regarding YOU AND let me tell you, IT'S NOT GOOD. Of course he let them STAND, DUH!

You are not too bright BC!!!! I Did mean slander AND LIBEL and anything else you want to throw in!


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Ashley
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12-31-04, 02:02 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #24
 
   OH BTW, I'm just shivering over your little thin ice threat you just made! LOLOLOLO! I guess I need to pull up ALLLLLL of your old posts and see who is libeling who.

An innocent defenseless CHILD, I might add. How could YOU? ANd then you waltz in here like it was all one big boo booo, no harm done! HA! The nerve. I just can't even believe it!


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 02:41 PM (EST)
 
35. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #25
 
   >OH BTW, I'm just shivering over your little thin ice threat
>you just made! LOLOLOLO! I guess I need to pull up ALLLLLL
>of your old posts and see who is libeling who.
>
> An innocent defenseless CHILD, I might add. How could YOU?
>ANd then you waltz in here like it was all one big boo booo,
>no harm done! HA! The nerve. I just can't even believe it!

My "thin ice" comment wasn't in any way intended as a threat. I was merely using simple common sense: if I were libeling Burke for year after year, surely this would come to the attention of Lin Wood and surely--based on all the other suits he's filed--he wouldn't hesitate a moment to come after me. It's a reasonable inference that I've not engaged in libel: I've always made clear that Burke's guilt was my OPINION based on the available evidence. That's far different than falsely claiming to know something that everyone else does not (e.g., pretending to leak something that happened in the Grand Jury and falsely accusing Burke based on that false claim).

Perhaps you will make a New Year's Resolution to study Law 101.
Happy New Year,

BlueCrab


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Margoo
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12-31-04, 02:10 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #24
 
   But for one poster, I don't think the heat here is particularly high, BlueCrab, but I appreciate the fact that your posts have not been Hit and Run. Of course, your postings over the years have not been ALL bad, and I am quite aware of the evidence of an intruder that you HAVE acknowledged, but here's the BIGGIE that you seem to be missing from your bag of knowledge about this case. Burke is NOT on that 911 call recording. You should not dismiss our own HIGHLY qualified sound "expert". May I refer you to -

http://www.webbsleuths.com/dcf/DCForumID101/1686.html

Enjoy.


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Jayelles
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12-31-04, 02:17 PM (EST)
 
27. "From the Real Bluecrab"
In response to message #26
 
   The real Bluecrab says:-

>>I don't post at Jameson's forum, nor do I even read there.

On the thread called "Ramsey Friend, Member of "Small Foreign Faction", Was Never Investigated "


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Margoo
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12-31-04, 02:20 PM (EST)
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29. "RE: From the Real Bluecrab"
In response to message #27
 
   >The real Bluecrab says:-
>
>>>I don't post at Jameson's forum, nor do I even read there.
>
>On the thread called "Ramsey Friend, Member of "Small
>Foreign Faction", Was Never Investigated "


Quite a conundrum ... just another "game" of Blue Crab's, perhaps? I'd like to question "this" Blue Crab 24/7 to establish his identity.


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 02:31 PM (EST)
 
31. "RE: From the Real Bluecrab"
In response to message #27
 
   >The real Bluecrab says:-
>
>>>I don't post at Jameson's forum, nor do I even read there.
>
>On the thread called "Ramsey Friend, Member of "Small
>Foreign Faction", Was Never Investigated "

As I made clear from the get-go here, I never planned to say anything "over there" until January 1. Sorry you jumped the gun, but do you really expect me to be on YOUR time schedule rather than my own?

My impression was that these forums, by preference of their respective owners, are intended to be completely separate with no "cross-talking" or "cross-posting" as evidently this has caused trouble in the past. You're not trying to cause trouble, are you?

I find it amusing that you believe "that" BlueCrab but not "this" BlueCrab, it evidently never occurring to you that the same person might possibly be saying two different things in two different places.
Happy New Year,

BlueCrab


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Margoo
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12-31-04, 02:17 PM (EST)
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28. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #26
 
   This "test drive" of a confession and apology is leading me to believe I am better off NOT admitting this elsewhere. If I'm getting this much heat here, just imagine how I'll get roasted over there.

Are you thinking that this forum does not exist in the minds of those posting along with you? That no one KNOWS of your confession here? I agree that about 95% of them have NEVER been particularly aware of the "other" side, but that 5% ... You're not protected, here, BlueCrab.

If you are sincere, your apology must be total, IMO. You should be shouting from the rooftops. Have courage, Blue Crab. (Maybe you should talk to Sundance about integrity when integrity is most difficult.)


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One_eyed_Jack
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12-31-04, 02:28 PM (EST)
 
30. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #28
 
   Burke's voice isn't on the 911 tape, Bluecrab.

So, whatcha going to do now? Do you have any other suspects in mind?


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 02:46 PM (EST)
 
36. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #26
 
   >But for one poster, I don't think the heat here is
>particularly high, BlueCrab, but I appreciate the fact that
>your posts have not been Hit and Run. Of course, your
>postings over the years have not been ALL bad, and I am
>quite aware of the evidence of an intruder that you HAVE
>acknowledged, but here's the BIGGIE that you seem to be
>missing from your bag of knowledge about this case.
>Burke is NOT on that 911 call recording. You should
>not dismiss our own HIGHLY qualified sound "expert". May I
>refer you to -
>
>http://www.webbsleuths.com/dcf/DCForumID101/1686.html
>
>Enjoy.

Dave strikes me as a very sensible and evidence-based poster, which is how I've tried to be over the years. The problem is that "over there" there's any number of refutations of Dave's analysis and I freely confess I don't have the technical expertise to sort through the validity of the competing expert claims about whether Dave's analysis is appropriate or whether the tape he was even using in the analysis was complete. Perhaps my willingness to believe the claims "over there" was unconsciously tilted in favor of believing Burke was on the tape since then it made my EA scenario(s) far more plausible. If he's not on the tape, then none of my scenarios works particularly well.
Happy New Year,

BlueCrab


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 02:33 PM (EST)
 
32. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #24
 
   >I just read your post regarding Lin Wood. I wasn't going
>to tell you this but you forced me too, I know exactly where
>Lin Wood stands regarding YOU AND let me tell you, IT'S NOT
>GOOD. Of course he let them STAND, DUH!
>
>You are not too bright BC!!!! I Did mean slander AND LIBEL
>and anything else you want to throw in!

This sounds like bluff and bluster to me. If I've ever libeled Burke, why wouldn't Lin Wood just ask me to cease and desist?


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Margoo
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12-31-04, 02:37 PM (EST)
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33. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #32
 
   >The real Bluecrab says:-
>
>>>I don't post at Jameson's forum, nor do I even read there.
>
>On the thread called "Ramsey Friend, Member of "Small
>Foreign Faction", Was Never Investigated "
As I made clear from the get-go here, I never planned to say anything "over there" until January 1. Sorry you jumped the gun, but do you really expect me to be on YOUR time schedule rather than my own?

My impression was that these forums, by preference of their respective owners, are intended to be completely separate with no "cross-talking" or "cross-posting" as evidently this has caused trouble in the past. You're not trying to cause trouble, are you?

I find it amusing that you believe "that" BlueCrab but not "this" BlueCrab, it evidently never occurring to you that the same person might possibly be saying two different things in two different places.
Happy New Year,

BlueCrab

You're not trying to cause trouble, are you?
LOL, you are talking to Jayelles, the "cross-posting" Queen of Gossip.


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Jayelles
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12-31-04, 02:40 PM (EST)
 
34. "Margoo"
In response to message #33
 
   >>The real Bluecrab says:-
>>
>>>>I don't post at Jameson's forum, nor do I even read there.
>>
>>On the thread called "Ramsey Friend, Member of "Small
>>Foreign Faction", Was Never Investigated "
>As I made clear from the get-go here, I never planned to say
>anything "over there" until January 1. Sorry you jumped the
>gun, but do you really expect me to be on YOUR time schedule
>rather than my own?
>
>My impression was that these forums, by preference of their
>respective owners, are intended to be completely separate
>with no "cross-talking" or "cross-posting" as evidently this
>has caused trouble in the past. You're not trying to cause
>trouble, are you?
>
>I find it amusing that you believe "that" BlueCrab but not
>"this" BlueCrab, it evidently never occurring to you that
>the same person might possibly be saying two different
>things in two different places.
>Happy New Year,
>
>BlueCrab
>
>

>
>You're not trying to cause trouble, are you?
>LOL, you are talking to Jayelles, the "cross-posting" Queen
>of Gossip.

With respect. If you go to the main link to all the forums, it says of this forum:-

"This is NOT a license to attack individuals "

I'm sticking to the rules. Are you?


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 02:50 PM (EST)
 
37. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #33
 
   >LOL, you are talking to Jayelles, the "cross-posting" Queen
>of Gossip.

Oh, dear, you seem to be right. Jayelles posted an actual link to this forum: isn't that a big no-no? It would be a shame for her to be banned here or there, wouldn't it?
Happy New Year,

BlueCrab


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Margoo
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38. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #37
 
   With respect. If you go to the main link to all the forums, it says of this forum:-

"This is NOT a license to attack individuals "

I'm sticking to the rules. Are you?

Sure you are ... you just cart it off to another forum to attack the members here.


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Jayelles
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12-31-04, 03:11 PM (EST)
 
40. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #38
 
   >With respect. If you go to the main link to all the
>forums, it says of this forum:-
>
>"This is NOT a license to attack individuals "
>
>I'm sticking to the rules. Are you?
>
>

>
>Sure you are ... you just cart it off to another forum to
>attack the members here.

If you have a problem with this, why, when you were a member of WS, did you repeatedly carry posts of mine from WS to here to attack me? Why didn't you just debate with me there? You have attacked me and others many times on jameson's protected forum. I am not saying that I am lily white in this respect, but neither are you.

However, jameson has made it clear that attacking others is NOT the purpose of this forum and I am respecting that. Now I would appreciate if you would refrain from attacking me.


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Margoo
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12-31-04, 03:23 PM (EST)
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41. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #40
 
   LAST EDITED ON 12-31-04 AT 03:26 PM (EST)
 
Because, Jayelles, your reasoning is flawed; your conclusions a leap; your manipulations tiresome and juvenile; you play right into the hands of the multitude who share your shallow thought processes and tendency toward pure unfounded gossip; you steal thoughts and ideas from true innovative thinkers; you are the Nellie Olesen of discussion boards (Little House on the Prairie).

I post HERE.

You asked.


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Jayelles
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12-31-04, 03:46 PM (EST)
 
44. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #41
 
   >Because, Jayelles, your reasoning is flawed; your
>conclusions a leap; your manipulations tiresome and
>juvenile; you play right into the hands of the multitude who
>share your shallow thought processes and tendency toward
>pure unfounded gossip; you steal thoughts and ideas from
>true innovative thinkers; you are the Nellie Olesen of
>discussion boards (Little House on the Prairie).
>
>I post HERE.
>
>You asked.

And I will repeat my request to you to stop attacking me here.

It's interesting that it isn't the unregistered visitors who are doing the flaming on this public forum.


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Jayelles
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12-31-04, 03:02 PM (EST)
 
39. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #37
 
   >>LOL, you are talking to Jayelles, the "cross-posting" Queen
>>of Gossip.
>
>Oh, dear, you seem to be right. Jayelles posted an actual
>link to this forum: isn't that a big no-no? It would be a
>shame for her to be banned here or there, wouldn't it?
>Happy New Year,
>
>BlueCrab

Nope. I abided perfectly with the rules of both forums. jameson does not allow links to other forums - so I posted only the name of the WS thread above. OTOH, WS requires that links be posted when quotes or references are made and so I did that too.

Someone is playing games here and it isn't Bluecrab.


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 03:28 PM (EST)
 
42. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #39
 
   >Nope. I abided perfectly with the rules of both forums.
>jameson does not allow links to other forums - so I posted
>only the name of the WS thread above. OTOH, WS requires
>that links be posted when quotes or references are made and
>so I did that too.
>
>Someone is playing games here and it isn't Bluecrab.

It's gratifying to know you play so scrupulously by the rules and that you're not playing games. It just seemed liked you were trying to stir things up by asking me "over there" whether I was the same person "over here."

I'm just curious: in your humble opinion, is Ashley abiding by the rules regarding no personal attacks, at least as you understand these restrictions?

Happy New Year,

BlueCrab


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Jayelles
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12-31-04, 03:42 PM (EST)
 
43. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #42
 
   Okay, if you're the "real" Bluecrab, you'll be able to confirm the title of the private message you sent me at WS.

I'd also like to know, since you're being so snotty to me here, why you are always so nice in the PMs you send me at WS.


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Real_Bluecrab
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12-31-04, 03:49 PM (EST)
 
45. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #43
 
   Will the Real BlueCrab Please Stand Up

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jayelles has just informed me that an internet poster by the name of BlueCrab is over on Jameson's Webbsleuths forum saying he is me and stating that I am admitting that I don't really believe that Burke had anything to do with the killing of JonBenet and I really believe that an intruder killed JonBenet. That BlueCrab says I have been purposely misleading the posters on this JonBenet forum, Tricia's Websleuth's forum.

Let me start by saying I categorically deny that the "BlueCrab" over on that other site is me. It's an imposter.

I'm not a member on the other forum so I can't reply there. However, the link that Jayelles provided let me know to what extent my "confession" has been taken. It has a thread of its own there.

The imposter is indeed clever. He (or she) thoroughly knows my various BDI theories. This will help me narrow down the number of suspects to the one who is the imposter. For instance, I haven't seen DocWatson posting here for a day or two.

However, with Jayelles help, I think I can trap this person. Jayelles, please forward this request to the BlueCrab imposter on the other forum:

"BlueCrab", if you really are me, please make a post on Tricia's Websleuth's forum, using my name, BlueCrab, on this thread "Will the Real BlueCrab Please Stand Up". Just type $118,000 as the post, that's all. You won't be able to do it because you don't know my password. I won't hold my breath waiting for your response. Thanks.

The Real BlueCrab

And thanks in advance to you too, Jayelles.

BlueCrab


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Justice_Seekermoderator
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12-31-04, 04:06 PM (EST)
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46. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #45
 
  

ARE WE HAVING FUN YET????? GO PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE!


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 04:20 PM (EST)
 
50. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #45
 
   >Jayelles has just informed me that an internet poster by the
>name of BlueCrab is over on Jameson's Webbsleuths forum
>saying he is me and stating that I am admitting that I don't
>really believe that Burke had anything to do with the
>killing of JonBenet and I really believe that an intruder
>killed JonBenet. That BlueCrab says I have been purposely
>misleading the posters on this JonBenet forum, Tricia's
>Websleuth's forum.
>
>I'm not a member on the other forum so I can't reply there.
>The Real BlueCrab

This is better than a Tom Stoppard play. Anyone wonder why "The Real BlueCrab" can't post as an unregistered user just like everyone else here? The above claim is categorically false on its faceI don't know whether "The Real BlueCrab" is Ashley or Jayelles or someone else who is having a bad day, but this is pretty hilarious. Patience, posters. You will see my confession on the Websleuths site on January 1, not a minute sooner. Quit beating a dead horse.

Happy New Year,

BlueCrab


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DocWatson
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12-31-04, 04:46 PM (EST)
 
56. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #45
 
   >The imposter is indeed clever. He (or she) thoroughly knows
>my various BDI theories. This will help me narrow down the
>number of suspects to the one who is the imposter. For
>instance, I haven't seen DocWatson posting here for a day or
>two.

>The Real BlueCrab
>

BlueCrab?
I told JBRMod2 many days ago that I was done posting at Websleuths.
That's why you haven't seen me over there. I'm reading over there, but don't care to be baited into posting over there, so I will reply here instead. If you don't believe me, ask her. She even has permission to share my PM on this matter if for some reason she kept it. In short, look somewhere else for your imposter, if indeed there even is an imposter. I'm content to wait until tomorrow to see how this plays out.

I'll concede that I for one am desperately hoping that YOU are the imposter and that the alleged imposter is genuine. Indeed, if EVERYONE "over there" who subscribed to a BDI theory gave it up in 2005, the world would be a better place, IMHO.

I've always thought you were nearly as good as Sherlock at hunting down even the most arcane facts about this case. Where your sleuthing generally has gone astray relates to ignoring some very basic principles of human motivation and behavior. If an older teen/adult were involved, a parental cover-up is ridiculous on its face. But if no older teen/adult is involved, then an "accidental" EA death involving a 9 year old instigator is ridiculous on its face etc. etc.
MissDaisey's made some prescient points about why it is completely implausible to suppose Burke or Doug wrote the RN, yet you yourself acknowledge that all the evidence points away from John or Patsy writing it. And in the one pretty blatant instance in which you "look the other way" when it comes to the actual evidence, your theory ignores the DNA which is tied to no known male Ramsey, yada, yada, yada.
Cheers,
DocWatson


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Margoo
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12-31-04, 06:03 PM (EST)
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64. "RE: Doc Watson"
In response to message #56
 
   You've fought the good fight. Too sad that you have decided to end your postings at WS where the truth is hidden amongst a barrage of inane, false, circlar, improbabilities. I wonder, did you post under a different hat at one time, or have you always been DocWatson? No matter, there are a good number of us who have strongly opposed BlueCrab's theory and tried to fight the good fight. A trip to the land of deleted threads seemed to be the 'reward' for such opposition. I've always wondered why BC was so well protected.


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DocWatson
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12-31-04, 06:34 PM (EST)
 
65. "RE: Doc Watson"
In response to message #64
 
   >You've fought the good fight. Too sad that you have decided
>to end your postings at WS where the truth is hidden amongst
>a barrage of inane, false, circlar, improbabilities. I
>wonder, did you post under a different hat at one time, or
>have you always been DocWatson? No matter, there are a good
>number of us who have strongly opposed BlueCrab's theory and
>tried to fight the good fight. A trip to the land of
>deleted threads seemed to be the 'reward' for such
>opposition. I've always wondered why BC was so well
>protected.

Many years ago I posted as DrC. I decided I liked DocWatson better.
BC is well-protected indeed. There didn't seem much point in continuing the "discussion" since it never seemed to lead anywhere. Wouldn't it be amazing if BC actually confessed tomorrow? I'm not holding my breath, to be honest. If it was an imposter, wouldn't it be a hoot if it turned out to be Jayelles herself???? Things that make ya go hmmmmmm......
Best wishes,
DocWatson


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 04:12 PM (EST)
 
47. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #43
 
   >Okay, if you're the "real" Bluecrab, you'll be able to
>confirm the title of the private message you sent me at WS.
>
>I'd also like to know, since you're being so snotty to me
>here, why you are always so nice in the PMs you send me at
>WS.

Sadly, I cannot comply with your request since you are well aware of WebbSleuth's rules:

"Posting of personal information about other posters, or information intended to lead to the discovery of the identity of other posters, is forbidden. Copying and posting Private Messages without the permission of the author is also forbidden."

Since you evidently don't "know" me here, how can I possibly be certain you are you? If I post the title of the actual PM I sent you "over there" and you are an imposter "over here" then I will have violated the terms and conditions of WebbSleuths and get thrown off the forum.

As for why I am so nice to you "over there," it's pretty simple: you've never before been so hostile towards me previously. I am merely mirroring your own behavior.

Happy New Year,

BlueCrab


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Jayelles
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12-31-04, 04:14 PM (EST)
 
49. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #47
 
   LOL. Clever answer, but not clever enough.

Folks, this is not Bluecrab.


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 04:57 PM (EST)
 
59. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #49
 
   >LOL. Clever answer, but not clever enough.
>
>Folks, this is not Bluecrab.

Let's make a simple bet. If I don't make my confession on WS tomorrow, I'm willing to be banned from that forum forever. You have my permission to copy or point to this thread "over there."

Conversely, since you are dead certain I am not BlueCrab, then surely you should be willing to be banned if I do NOT confess. Deal? If so, I assume you need to offer your explicit permission so that Tricia knows to dump you from her forum. In short, put up or shut up. You've been running your mouth a lot today. It will surely be interesting to see whether you REALLY believe what you claim.

Happy New Year,

BlueCrab


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52. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #48
 
   Here's the deal on BlueCrab and The_Real BlueCrab. We welcome all civil posters. Who they really are really doesn't matter,,,not to me,,,I don't give a rat's ass. If they choose to play,,,they play alone. Enough said.


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iamjc
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12-31-04, 04:36 PM (EST)
 
53. "iamjc"
In response to message #48
 
   Jayelles, is that really you? :-) iamjc and you all can go to the bank of that.

Justice_Seeker ... happy new year! Yes, for a day it was fun. Sometimes it is supposed to be fun. jmho.


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Justice_Seekermoderator
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60. "RE: iamjc"
In response to message #53
 
   >
>Justice_Seeker ... happy new year! Yes, for a day it was
>fun. Sometimes it is supposed to be fun. jmho.

Hi iamjc, Happy New Year to you also!!
If you are whom I think you are I sure do miss your posts. :)

This thread would be fun if it weren't sooooo confusing. lol.
If the real BlueCrab is not responsible for posting this thread hir can e-mail jameson for help in stopping the alleged imposter from using their hat.


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Margoo
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12-31-04, 04:37 PM (EST)
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54. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #48
 
   LAST EDITED ON 12-31-04 AT 05:57 PM (EST)
 
Well, there are falsehoods by "both" BlueCrabs. First of all, he CAN post here as an unregistered user. Secondly, this -

"BlueCrab", if you really are me, please make a post on Tricia's Websleuth's forum, using my name, BlueCrab, on this thread "Will the Real BlueCrab Please Stand Up". Just type $118,000 as the post, that's all. You won't be able to do it because you don't know my password. I won't hold my breath waiting for your response. Thanks.

is so hilariously illogical and nothing more than a circular impossibility. I'm going to wait a few more hours to unwrap this 'gift'. WHOSE game is this really? WHICH game are we playing? Considering the subject of this "game", I'm really hoping the "real" BlueCrab has in fact turned over a new leaf.



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The RuleMaker
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12-31-04, 04:42 PM (EST)
 
55. "The Rulemaker speaks."
In response to message #54
 
   PLEASE - one thread started per person on their own theory. Stick to discussing that theory or suspect on that one thread until there are 50 posts on that thread.


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Margoo
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57. "RE: The Rulemaker speaks."
In response to message #55
 
   And I will repeat my request to you to stop attacking me here.

All attacks stop when YOU decide to play clean and fair.


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Margoo
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58. "RE: The Rulemaker speaks."
In response to message #57
 
   It's interesting that it isn't the unregistered visitors who are doing the flaming on this public forum.

You're right, your flaming posts all over the discussion boards are not here at this "public" forum; they are safely tucked away at other boards requiring 'membership' in order to respond.


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Jayelles
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12-31-04, 05:46 PM (EST)
 
61. "RE: The Rulemaker speaks."
In response to message #58
 
   Margoo - I have asked you to stop attacking me on this forum. It's against the rules and as far as I am aware, not subject to any "conditions".

BluecrabImposter - It's getting late here and I'm logging off now for a Hogmanay Party. I know you aren't BlueCrab or you would have posted something very different above. I might not agree with BC's theory, but I think he is sincere in what he has said to me. If I am wrong, I will happily wear the egg on my face. No need to play silly games with forum memberships. Don't take my refusal to do so as anything other than a disdain for a silly, petty game.

Happy Hogmanay to everyone! Health and Happiness for the New Year!


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62. "RE: The Rulemaker speaks."
In response to message #61
 
   >No need to play silly games with forum memberships.

I agree wholeheartedly Jayelles.
Happy New Year to you also. I don't don't know what that other one means?


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 05:56 PM (EST)
 
63. "RE: The Rulemaker speaks."
In response to message #61
 
   >Margoo - I have asked you to stop attacking me on this
>forum. It's against the rules and as far as I am aware, not
>subject to any "conditions".
>
>BluecrabImposter - It's getting late here and I'm logging
>off now for a Hogmanay Party. I know you aren't BlueCrab or
>you would have posted something very different above. I
>might not agree with BC's theory, but I think he is sincere
>in what he has said to me. If I am wrong, I will happily
>wear the egg on my face. No need to play silly games with
>forum memberships. Don't take my refusal to do so as
>anything other than a disdain for a silly, petty game.
>
>Happy Hogmanay to everyone! Health and Happiness for the
>New Year!

If you were 100% certain I was an imposter, then offering to get dumped from the forum would be a throwaway gesture that would cost you nothing. Thank you for conceding that you are not nearly as certain about this as you "appear" to be. I knew that deep inside, there was a warm and fuzzy Jayelles that belies her "tough" exterior.
Margoo will be happy to know this.

Since I am not playing games, my offer stands: toss me out of WS if you don't see my confession by noon tomorrow (I'm hoping to do it right after midnight, but am hedging my bets in case I fall asleep).

I look forward to seeing you add an egg icon to your signature on WS.
Happy Hogmanay,

BlueCrab


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sissi
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12-31-04, 06:53 PM (EST)
 
66. "RE: The Rulemaker speaks."
In response to message #63
 
   See..gee..this is why no one can leave a forum open, to many "who claim to be adults" act out.
I do not agree with BC's theory, but I do believe in his sincerity, and someone is having a "good time" at his expense. It reminds me of the games Patsy's little friend played, another idiot! I find, sorority girls that don't grow up, finding fun in their practical little jokes at the expense of others, sickening.


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 08:51 PM (EST)
 
68. "Who Are You?"
In response to message #66
 
  

This is my first post on this forum in several years. I don't like it here. The last time I posted on this forum Jameson convoluted what I had to say, then said that I was "full of it", and then deleted every one of my posts. I'm forced to come back here to make this one post to Imposter BlueCrab:

Imposter BlueCrab:

If you are the real BlueCrab you would have gone to Tricia's Websleuth's forum by now and posted "$118,000" on the "Will the Real BlueCrab Please Stand Up" thread.", as I requested you to do on that same thread. You didn't do it. And the reason you didn't do it is because YOU CAN'T. You are not BlueCrab.

Likewise, you will not be able to use my name tomorrow on Tricia's Websleuth's forum for your "confession", because YOU CAN'T.

There's only one BlueCrab registered at Websleuths, and it's me. You won't be able to impersonate me there as you are able to do here.

I don't know for sure who the hell you are, but your posts sure sound an awful lot like those of DocWatson. You and DocWatson are the only ones who have followed my BDI posts like an eagle, to the point it seems you know my different BDI theories almost better than I do myself.

Of course, you could be anyone. You could be Jameson, or Susan Stine (she's experienced at impersonating others, such as Mark Beckner), or a Ramsey, or Nathan. But my first guess would be DocWatson. Whoever the hell you are, you're pretty damned good my friend. Congratulations and have a happy new year.

By the way Imposter BlueCrab, I won't be holding my breath waiting for "BlueCrab" to make his confession tomorrow.

BlueCrab



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DocWatson
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12-31-04, 10:31 PM (EST)
 
71. "RE: Who Are You?"
In response to message #68
 
   >
>
>This is my first post on this forum in several years. I
>don't like it here. The last time I posted on this forum
>Jameson convoluted what I had to say, then said that I was
>"full of it", and then deleted every one of my posts. I'm
>forced to come back here to make this one post to Imposter
>BlueCrab:
>
>Imposter BlueCrab:
>
>If you are the real BlueCrab you would have gone to Tricia's
>Websleuth's forum by now and posted "$118,000" on the "Will
>the Real BlueCrab Please Stand Up" thread.", as I requested
>you to do on that same thread. You didn't do it. And the
>reason you didn't do it is because YOU CAN'T. You are not
>BlueCrab.
>
>Likewise, you will not be able to use my name tomorrow on
>Tricia's Websleuth's forum for your "confession", because
>YOU CAN'T.
>
>There's only one BlueCrab registered at Websleuths, and it's
>me. You won't be able to impersonate me there as you are
>able to do here.
>
>I don't know for sure who the hell you are, but your posts
>sure sound an awful lot like those of DocWatson. You and
>DocWatson are the only ones who have followed my BDI posts
>like an eagle, to the point it seems you know my different
>BDI theories almost better than I do myself.
>
>Of course, you could be anyone. You could be Jameson, or
>Susan Stine (she's experienced at impersonating others, such
>as Mark Beckner), or a Ramsey, or Nathan. But my first
>guess would be DocWatson. Whoever the hell you are, you're
>pretty damned good my friend. Congratulations and have a
>happy new year.
>
>By the way Imposter BlueCrab, I won't be holding my breath
>waiting for "BlueCrab" to make his confession tomorrow.
>
>BlueCrab
>
>
BlueCrab, you crack me up. I've gone through all the BlueCrab posts on this thread and there ain't a whole lot of content to them, theorywise, so why you think this alleged "imposter" has to have followed your posts like an eagle in order to impersonate you is quite beyond me. Frankly, if it were Nathan who's come to taunt you, I'd be hard put to say it wasn't deserved.

You've always seemed like a straight-shooter, but if I were a suspicious person, I'd wonder whether this whole game being played isn't of YOUR making entirely. Margoo may well be onto something here. It's the end of the year: you're feeling badly about libeling a 9 year old and finally decide to come clean. But you're pretty damned sure you'll get completely ROASTED "over there" so you test the waters over here. When things don't look so hot, you invoke your back-up plan: pretend that the BlueCrab here isn't really you and accuse someone of being an imposter. As long as you're playing this game, you might as well nail a poster who keeps nagging you with unanswerable questions about the inconsistencies in your theory: DocWatson! That way, when you don't confess tomorrow, everyone will think DocWatson did it and hereinafter you never have to answer my posts: you can just tell everyone I'm that discredited imposter!
What a scam!

But I'll be honest with you: someone THAT clever couldn't possibly believe any version of the BDI theories I've seen you post "over there." So I'll reject that hypothesis in hopes that you'll do me the favor of looking elsewhere for your scapegoat. The real irony is that if the above theory IS correct, your shenanigans were entirely unnecessary. Several hours ago I asked Tricia to remove me as a member from WS; she said she couldn't drop me as member as that would mean all my posts would go away, but offered to ban me so I can't post (feel free to confirm with her this request was made before you posted what I am responding to now: I don't want you to inappropriately infer some sinister connection that isn't there). So in the future, you needn't worry about me challenging your silly BDI theories anymore.

As I said earlier, my hope is that the BlueCrab here really is you and that we WILL see a confession tomorrow. But like you, I'm not holding my breath.

Best wishes,
DocWatson


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carol bell
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12-31-04, 08:37 PM (EST)
 
67. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #0
 
   So you were posting articles about Burke committing the murder. Well I dont see the humor.I use to post that I thought Burke did it,but I really thought he did. But to post it as a joke is absurd! Burkes schoolmates might read these articles,and taunt him.I believe Burke is really going to have a hard time trying to make much sense to this whole thing.I understand he is in counseling. That is good.I really wish him well. I would never post that somebody did it as a joke. shame


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Margoo
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69. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #67
 
   I think Blue Crab just side-stepped out of confessing in a few hours time. Afraid of the fallout from those who do not seek the truth, I'm guessing. His "test" here at this forum gave him the answer he was seeking. Perhaps it takes more courage than he could summon.


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BlueCrab
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12-31-04, 10:13 PM (EST)
 
70. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #69
 
  
This is my second post on this thread.

Margoo,

If Imposter BlueCrab wants to prove he is the real BlueCrab, all he has to do is post "$118,000" on the "Will the Real BlueCrab Please Stand Up" thread at Tricia's Websleuths forum. It's that simple.

But he hasn't done it yet, and never will be able to do it, because he can't. There's only one BlueCrab able to post there. He can get away with it here because it's an open forum, but he can't get away with it there because he won't be able to use the hat "BlueCrab".

BlueCrab


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DocWatson
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12-31-04, 10:41 PM (EST)
 
72. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #70
 
   >
>This is my second post on this thread.
>
>Margoo,
>
>If Imposter BlueCrab wants to prove he is the real BlueCrab,
>all he has to do is post "$118,000" on the "Will the Real
>BlueCrab Please Stand Up" thread at Tricia's Websleuths
>forum. It's that simple.
>
>But he hasn't done it yet, and never will be able to do it,
>because he can't. There's only one BlueCrab able to post
>there. He can get away with it here because it's an open
>forum, but he can't get away with it there because he won't
>be able to use the hat "BlueCrab".
>
>BlueCrab


BlueCrab,
Logic check. There's two possibilities: either there's an imposter or not. You want us to believe that if $118,000 message doesn't show up, this "proves" the hypothesis that there is an imposter. But of course, if there is NO imposter, we'd get the identical result! You--wanting us desperately to believe that BlueCrab here is not BlueCrab there--obviously have no incentive to post the $118,000 message either.

This obviously will get resolved definitively if a confession appears tomorrow (gosh, if we're lucky: just a few short hours from now!). Otherwise, you're going to have to try some other means to catch that nasty imposter.
Best wishes,

DocWatson


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DocWatson
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12-31-04, 10:42 PM (EST)
 
73. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #69
 
   >I think Blue Crab just side-stepped out of confessing in a
>few hours time. Afraid of the fallout from those who do not
>seek the truth, I'm guessing. His "test" here at this forum
>gave him the answer he was seeking. Perhaps it takes more
>courage than he could summon.

It's sure looking that way!
Best wishes,
DocWatson


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sissi
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12-31-04, 11:24 PM (EST)
 
74. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #67
 
   Carol Bell,Blue Crab ,as you once said you did, sincerely believes Burke did it. This is,indeed, a game by someone else, who is finding humor in upsetting him. Sure,IMO, it is horrible to consider a child as the perp, especially if you have studied the case and viewed the autopsy pictures, but being it is his theory he has the right to it. I am just as appalled that anyone could consider Jonbenet's parents as perps,but have no problem considering White ,Santa,etc. which likely others find just as appalling.


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seymour
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01-01-05, 00:09 AM (EST)
 
75. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #74
 
   burke's almost 18. he will be old enough to answer anyone that asks. i wonder if anyone will ask?


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spriggy
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01-01-05, 00:26 AM (EST)
 
76. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #75
 
   Wow! reading through this thread made me feel like I was back in junior high folks.

thanks for the stroll down memory lane. ROFL


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Margoo
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01-01-05, 03:19 AM (EST)
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77. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #76
 
   Hey, DocWatson (DrC). Good to see you. I thought it was "you"! Happy New Year. Hope to see you posting here in 2005. You'd be most welcome! I always liked your posts and your spirit.


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Ashley
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01-01-05, 04:38 AM (EST)
 
78. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #77
 
   It's BC! What a moron!


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Jayelles
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01-01-05, 12:30 PM (EST)
 
79. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #78
 
   It's astonishing that we have two people posting as Bluecrab. One is definitely the real Bluecrab - the one posting at WS. Only he can post using his membership there. Then we have the unregistered (basically anonymous) person posting as Bluecrab here ... and YET, there are some who would appear to believe the anonymous person's words rather than those of the one we KNOW to be the genuine article elsewhere! How does that bear upon their credibility I ask?

The BluecrabImposter here also seems to have changed the focus of his posts to attacking myself and Ashley. The real Bluecrab does NOT attack other posters. Most may not agree with his theory, but he is always courteous.

According to the font page, this forum is due to close to the public tomorrow. Has it fulfilled its purpose?


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jamesonadmin
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80. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #79
 
   Has it fulfilled its purpose?

Guess that depends on how you look at it.

For the record, BlueCrab at weBsleuths is saying he did not start this thread - readers need to remember this is a public forum and not all guests are honest about who they are.

Still, this thread has been interesting.



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BlueCrab
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01-01-05, 01:01 PM (EST)
 
81. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #78
 
  

This is my third post on this thread (all other posts using the name of BlueCrab were made by your imposter).


Well, your Imposter BlueCrab didn't post anything over on Tricia's WS forum as he said he definitely would (a "BlueCrab" confession as he promised; and/or a money figure of "$118,000" as I suggested to him, to prove HE was the real BlueCrab.

He didn't post anything at WS using my hat because he COULDN'T post anything there. He's an imposter who lied his ass off, and you regulars here on Jameson's Webbsleuths ate it up. Shame.

BlueCrab


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jamesonadmin
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01-01-05, 01:06 PM (EST)
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82. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #81
 
   Actually, I think most of us knew full well that this was a hoax. BlueCrab has always pushed the "Burke did it" theory regardless of the evidence or fact that he was publicly cleared. We all know and accept that.

I didn't see the thread until it had a lot of posts on it - - and while I would like everyone to wear one hat and NOT pretend to be someone else, I do not control how guests post on a public forum. Right now having this forum public is worth the problems so....

back to case?


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BlueCrab
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01-01-05, 06:36 PM (EST)
 
86. "RE: Burke being cleared"
In response to message #82
 
  

Jameson,

Sorry my friend, but Burke has never been cleared. No one of authority in Boulder has ever declared Burke cleared, including Hunter and Keenan.

Please don't trot out Lin Wood's deceptive affidavit of October 12, 2000, signed by Alex Hunter, as evidence of Burke having been cleared. That affidavit says nothing about Burke having been cleared. It says Burke is a witness and not a suspect. The affidavit fails to add that NO ONE in the case is an official suspect. Tricky.

Burke has never been cleared, and there's not a person of authority in Boulder who will say Burke has been cleared.

BlueCrab


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shawn
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01-01-05, 06:42 PM (EST)
 
87. "RE: Burke being cleared"
In response to message #86
 
   that's an excellent point! Nobody's cleared, you're right.


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one_eyed_Jack
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01-01-05, 01:46 PM (EST)
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83. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #77
 
   >Hey, DocWatson (DrC). Good to see you. I thought it was
>"you"! Happy New Year. Hope to see you posting here in
>2005. You'd be most welcome! I always liked your posts and
>your spirit.

I'll second that, DocWatson. I've read quite a few of your posts, and I hope you do continue to post here. Great sense of humor and sharp as a tack.


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Ashley
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01-01-05, 02:55 PM (EST)
 
84. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #83
 
   I guess there is no way to know for sure whether it's him or not.

Who cares!! It dosen't change waht he did to Burke, no how, no way!


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jamesonadmin
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01-01-05, 03:46 PM (EST)
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85. "RE: Burke Didn't Do It"
In response to message #84
 
   Burke will be 18 in just a few weeks now. Maybe he will be inclined to respond to some of the horrible pages out there on him. I would think any court would be more than happy to help him find his own justice - - and some of the web pages on him deserve more than a raised eyebrow.



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Ashley
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01-01-05, 07:02 PM (EST)
 
88. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #84
 
  

The hell there isn't a way to tell if your BlueCrab was an imposter or was the real BlueCrab.

The imposter said he'd prove he was the real BlueCrab by posting on Tricia's WS today. He didn't post. Why? Because he COULDN'T. He was an imposter.

Also, I asked him to post "$118,000" on a thread on Tricia's WS. He didn't post. Why? Because he COULDN'T. He was an imposter.

You people were obviously had, but most of you eagerly ate it up without trying to verify anything. Shame.

(Incidentally, you might want to thank DocWatson for any embarrassments you may feel.)

BlueCrab


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sissi
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01-01-05, 07:24 PM (EST)
 
89. "moderator"
In response to message #88
 
   Can't ya' just look at his ip number and tell the differences and straighten this out ?


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Jasmine
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01-01-05, 07:31 PM (EST)
 
90. "RE: moderator"
In response to message #89
 
   Is it really important to know?


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Jayelles
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01-01-05, 07:43 PM (EST)
 
91. "RE: moderator"
In response to message #90
 
   Is it important to know?

Well, I guess the moderator not only already DOES know, but possibly also has a fair idea who has been playing games :-)

Jasmine, supposing the situation were reversed and someone started posting at another forum under the hat jameson, Rainsong, Margoo, Jasmine ..... saying that they really believed the Ramseys were guilty and saying unkind things about this forum and its members. Then supposing when challenged, this person suggested that that they had been leading the members HERE a merry dance for some time? Supposing the members of the other forum posted that they thought the imposter really WAS jameson, Rainsong, Margoo, jasmine despite your protestations here to the contrary....

If it were you, would YOU want the moderator to clear your name? Even if they didn't like you or your theories?

Here's another thought - supposing the person claiming to be the real Bluecrab ISN'T the real Bluecrab either? This is the problem with public forums where anyone can post under any hat.

It's a mercy that most forums require registration and are moderated.


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Jasmine
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01-01-05, 08:14 PM (EST)
 
93. "RE: moderator"
In response to message #91
 
   >Is it important to know?
>
>Well, I guess the moderator not only already DOES know, but
>possibly also has a fair idea who has been playing games :-)
>
>Jasmine, supposing the situation were reversed and someone
>started posting at another forum under the hat jameson,
>Rainsong, Margoo, Jasmine ..... saying that they really
>believed the Ramseys were guilty and saying unkind things
>about this forum and its members. Then supposing when
>challenged, this person suggested that that they had been
>leading the members HERE a merry dance for some time?
>Supposing the members of the other forum posted that they
>thought the imposter really WAS jameson, Rainsong, Margoo,
>jasmine despite your protestations here to the contrary....
>
>If it were you, would YOU want the moderator to clear your
>name? Even if they didn't like you or your theories?
>
>Here's another thought - supposing the person claiming to be
>the real Bluecrab ISN'T the real Bluecrab either? This is
>the problem with public forums where anyone can post under
>any hat.
>
>It's a mercy that most forums require registration and are
>moderated.

Jayelles, Im very interested in certain cases and you are right that I would not be very happy if someone posted as Jasmine. I really enjoy the discussions but I am not a sleuth of any sort. These cases dont control my life so I dont really get "into" as many of the poster do. I love the discussion but maybe Im not so attached.


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iamjc
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01-01-05, 07:49 PM (EST)
 
92. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #88
 
   "This is my first post on this forum in several years. I don't like it here. The last time I posted on this forum Jameson convoluted what I had to say, then said that I was "full of it", and then deleted every one of my posts."

I know that's true.


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BlueCrab
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01-01-05, 08:47 PM (EST)
 
94. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #92
 
  

iamjc,

Thank you for remembering that incident. The members in this forum should speak up about such blatant control of their posts by Jameson, but they seem to just sheepishly accept it. It's sad.

BlueCrab


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jamesonadmin
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95. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #94
 
   I don't remember it that way at all - - but I can see where you might.

Burke is not a suspect in this case, was never a serious suspect - - but he WAS considered and discarded as a suspect - - in short he WAS cleared and LE has made that very clear.

The posts that were deleted were, IMO, clearly libelous and unwelcome on this forum.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I believe I made it clear that I do NOT think the real BlueCrab started this thread. I did not check the IP - didn't feel a need to - but any member has that power.

I would prefer the imposter choose another name for future posts but personally don't see any good reason to delete this interesting thread - so won't.


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Margoo
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01-01-05, 09:33 PM (EST)
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96. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #95
 
   I did not check the IP - didn't feel a need to - but any member has that power.

We do? I sure don't. If I press the IP icon, I get a message that the information is not available to the general public.


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Margoo
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01-01-05, 09:42 PM (EST)
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97. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #96
 
   LAST EDITED ON 01-01-05 AT 09:42 PM (EST)
 
The imposter said he'd prove he was the real BlueCrab by posting on Tricia's WS today. He didn't post. Why? Because he COULDN'T. He was an imposter.

or "he" didn't WANT to ...

Also, I asked him to post "$118,000" on a thread on Tricia's WS. He didn't post. Why? Because he COULDN'T. He was an imposter.

or "he" didn't WANT to ...

You people were obviously had, but most of you eagerly ate it up without trying to verify anything. Shame.

No one was "had". No one was sure one way or the other ... no one except BlueCrab and POSSIBLY an imposter. We've had these games perpetrated on this forum before and we've "played" it EXACTLY THE SAME WAY. Go back to post #1. I didn't believe it was BlueCrab from the start, but (by post #10) agreed to "play". BIG DEAL. No one was "had" and no one is or should be ashamed of a darn thing (except either you or the imposter). We "played" along and discussed the "game" on its own terms.


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jamesonadmin
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98. "RE%3A Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #97
 
   LAST EDITED ON 01-02-05 AT 09:26 AM (EST)
 
deleted IP numbers - was a bad idea to post them in the first place. Sorry.


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Jayelles
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01-02-05, 07:18 AM (EST)
 
99. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #98
 
   LAST EDITED ON 01-02-05 AT 02:33 PM (EST) by jameson (admin)
 
>The first post was posted by BlueCrab and this is what the
>IP information said
>
deleted IP's
>
>So they appear to be different but experienced posters
>understand different computers have different IP's and one
>person could be using different computers....
>
>I didn't believe it was the real BlueCrab starting this
>thread - I thought everyone else would feel the same way.
>But I can't swear on a bible it is a different person,
>either.

jameson, I'm not certain what the purpose of this is. You have compared the Bluecrab Imposters IPs with mine - not with the real Bluecrab.

If you are going to start posting the IPs of posters, why don't you post them all?


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jamesonadmin
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01-02-05, 09:25 AM (EST)
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100. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #99
 
   Obviously when you are dealing with a public forum people are going to "borrow hats". One good thing about being a member is that if anyone posts using your hat you can edit that post.

I have no interest in tracking posters - will delete the IP's already posted.


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jayelles
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01-02-05, 09:44 AM (EST)
 
101. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #100
 
   I'm not sure if there is a privacy issue regarding the posting of IPs but perhaps you should also delete my post quoting them?

I don't think anyone is asking you to track the IPs, but it would be rather decent if you would simply look at them and state whether or not the real BlueCrab's IPs are the same as the Imposter's. As you say, at the end of the day, one poster could be using two different ISPs so it doesn't prove anything, but it would be a kind gesture. Examples of the real BlueCrab's posts are #68 & #70. He makes it very clear in the wording of his posts that it is him.

As you say, this is one of the problems of having a free-for-all public forum. Fortunately, these are few and far between. This is the only such forum that I am aware of. All others are moderated and posters have to register.

This was quite interesting actually. I traced my own IP using two different "whois" facilities. The first one I used suggested I was in Amsterdam! I thought "New Year was good, but it wasn't that good. I think I would have remembered making the journey..... So I used the second to check it and it stated an Enlish location as I expected it would since my ISP is located in England.

At least in posting the imposter's IP#s you proved that I am not the imposter as was suggested by someone. One thing I cannot do is fake an American IP#.


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BlueCrab
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01-02-05, 10:25 AM (EST)
 
102. "RE: Imposter BlueCrab"
In response to message #100
 
  

Jameson,

There is an unfortunate by-product as the result of this fraudulent-based thread. The threadstarter obviously knew the information in it would likely be reproduced elsewhere, as some of my "Burke Did It" theory posts sometimes are, and this in turn would deliberately confuse a well-researched and detailed theory.

Therefore, please delete this entire thread started by the imposter BlueCrab on this, your Webbsleuths public forum, and post a prominent public admission that information posted in this thread, called "Burke Didn't Do It" is fraudulent and not true. Thank you.

BlueCrab


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