The problem here, Evening, is the name may very well be in front of the DA and her investigators. If he is indeed considered a suspect, but not named as such, he will stay 'above ground.' Now, with his name publicized, he can go under with little difficulty. On top of that, every relative will aid and abet his hiding.

Rainsong

Rainsong

Most people will not cover for a killer, even family. Some will, but eventually he'll be ratted out.

If it doesn't match, he has nothing to fear. However, a suspect's name is not usually released without hard evidence to back up those suspicions.

If this man should happen to be a viable suspect, there is also the possibility he may have hung onto a souvenir from this crime, perhaps even the end of the infamous paint brush. Now, being publicly exposed, he may just toss any items he has kept.

In other words, Tricia's quest to feed her ego by being the first to expose this man's name could very well have damaged the investigation into this person.

Rainsong

Ashley, I agree, especially that he has no reason to run if he is innocent because his DNA will not match.

I think he is likely to be on the run, however. News travels fast these days of the internet, and the name Gigax is unusual enough to be highly recognizable. The word about the documentary was around on the internet before his name was posted.

Yahoo lists two persons named John Gigax with email addresses, one of which is a hotmail address, in locations: Jacksonville and Laredo. Searches at reunite.myfamily.com do not reveal any John Gigax in either Jacksonville or Laredo, but strangely, both places have a Gene R Gigax, age 29. PERHAPS JUST A HUGE COINCIDENCE...

There is also a Gene Gigax, age 92, in Indianapolis;
our John S Gigax, listed as ages 49 and 50, in Bloomington, IN;
and a John Gigax in Owen County, IN, which is just NW of Bloomington.
Bloomington is home to the main campus of Indiana University.

http://www.militaria-net.co.uk/LINKS.HTM

has a link to the nazi jewelry website. But the phone number listed at this site in the UK is different. And there is an e-mail address. They both point to the area around Spencer, IN.

I feel sorry for the families named Gigax. If I had that last name, and learned about the film that was shown in Britain and that John Steven Gigax was being named as the suspect of interest, - then I would be on the phone to every Gigax relative I could find - and even to other Gigax persons, known relatives or not - to track him down and get him in touch with LE.

edited to clarify

AS for him claiminig dna transfer...won't work. JB did not use the men's restroom. He would have a hard time explaining how his dna got in her underpants mixed with her blood, and under her fingernails.

Further note concerning dna: if SX was convicted for a sexual offense involving a minor in the 1980s, wouldn't his dna be in Codis?

For Colorado:

Statistical Information
Total Offender Profiles 28,093
Forensic Samples 760
Number of CODIS Labs 4
NDIS Participating Labs 4
Investigations Aided 62

Rainsong

Way to go Tricia! Also innoent people with that name are going to be getting prank calls and harrassed by these idiots!!

I believe that Tricia, as usual, was not concerned about a proper investigation being conducted in a proper manner - - but in being "hot" - the one to "out" the "mystery". Well, she posted his name and if anyone in America is to be sued by Gigax for naming him a suspect, she will be first in line. After all, the documentary aired in the UK, not here. And his name was NOT used.

Gigax has left the Boulder area - Ramsey case investigators would like to talk to him but are not in contact with him. Maybe he knows that - maybe he does not. Maybe having his name public will get him in talking - - could clear him for all we know.

Will people harass his family? I sincerely hope not.

Will people who know him call and let investigators know where he is? I hope so.

I wonder if CODIS ever had submissions of historical dna data that local agencies had available?

Note at Gary Oliva / Thomas Aquinas:
Even the TV show on that macaroon-interviewing nutcase only further spread a rumor about the dna. Where is the offical announcement that dna of Oliva did not match.
We only have a statement that nothing in CODIS matched and the reasonable assumption that Oliva's dna was already in CODIS, but thats all.

Careful SAM, you don't want to stray too far from the approved upon thinking on this forum.

I do hope the DNA matches somebody eventually. I have a fear that if it is innocently occurring, that it will never be matched and the killer gets a get out of jail free card.

THis case is all about the DNA now. DNA that couldn't be properly evaluated from skin cells under her fingernails. Yet somehow years later can be identified in a blood spot in her underwear. A good attorney will have field day with this.

Gigax has left the Boulder area - Ramsey case investigators would like to talk to him but are not in contact with him. Maybe he knows that - maybe he does not. Maybe having his name public will get him in talking - - could clear him for all we know.

Two very good points.

For all we know this is just a bait and switch set up. SX may NOT be a particularly outstanding suspect in the eyes of the Ramsey case investigators. The 'story' makes the point that Tracey was after and that is that the media promptly jumped on the bandwagon to crucify the Ramseys without regard for the TRUE facts of the case and that the ACTUAL investigation is NOT focused on the family; that there are VERY GOOD suspects that the BPD disregarded; that there may be a connection to the burglaries and other home intrusions that occurred in Boulder at the same time.

I do think there is a 'connection' to Helgoth, SX, and Kenady that needs looking into. Just like the Pughs, Whites, McRenolds, Ramseys, etc., they all need to be 'cleared' via alibis, DNA, hairs, fingerprints, palmprints, and handwriting --- in BOTH the Ramsey case and the Helgoth 'suicide'.

Let's hope we see it done --- SOON!

address off the web:
John Gigax
P.O.Box 84
Nineveh Indiana 46164 - 0084

Then here is his telephone number:

Same guy, different PO box/town but with phone number:
John Gigax PO.Box 262 Patricksburg, Indiana 47455 Telephone: (812) 859-**** http://www.nazijewelry.com jsg54@ccrtc.com

edited by jameson to remove the phone number. Why? Because I got the following email...
"Hi, U have my phone number listed on your website for John
Steven Gigax. I want it taken off. I don't know this
guy. Thank U."

Rainsong

The statement that it would take 6 investigators 6 months to clear a lot of this up still haunts me ...

WHAT would create that 'field day' for this 'good attorney'? I am lost as to what you think would contribute to a 'field day'.

edited to add: A field day would require credibility. I am at a loss to determine WHAT about the DNA would create a credible 'field day' (unless jurors are high school dropouts, that is).

Rainsong

IF you were looking to start over, would you? Would you use your own name?

And IF you were involved in a highly publicized murder...

Some convicted sex offenders are now 'camping out' in trailers on the grounds of their former homes, the penitentiary/prison.

Rainsong

And you seemingly have gotten away with it? Possibly killed the only living suspect and LE has rendered it a suicide.

Place the blame on Tracy when he blacked out the man's name?

I don't think so.

Rainsong+

I imagine the BORG is writing a score of letters to him - - you know - - do you KNOW what they are saying about you????? Well, that's fine with me. Maybe he will go to the nearest police station and offer up handwriting and DNA samples to clear his name. If so, we would all know where he stands and could move on - - one way or another - - right?

Rainsong

The fact is, they were convicted well before the law mandated their DNA be taken and entered into any databank.

Tricia is posting that on the public forum at FFJ "...you will see that we are defending Mr. Gigax."

Interesting - they know a bit about him, have not seen the whole file on him, yet they are publicly "defending" him. Why? As I see it, they are defending him because if he is involved, Tricia and friends were wrong all along.

I hope Mr. Gigax can come forward quickly to provide DNA samples to prove himself innocent, if he is innocent.

So, waiting for Mr. Gigax to show up.....

Is this someone you may have known? If you have any info, please send it in.

The fellow that died in a car wreck in Virginia, was a border patrolman, was on his way back to Arizona? His name is John Charles Gigax, I think.

Scroll down to the second article; describes the accident which killed the officer. Age 27. Don't see how our suspect could be in LE.

1. Gawd don't tell me some poor schmuck has had his phone ringing off the hook since the grand sleuthing discovery. WHO would be phoning or emailing him?

2. Do you think all the forums got this email? If so, HOW did this fellow (with the phone number) know it was on THIS website? If not, WHO has been phoning him (emailing him???) and telling him the number was posted here? Fact is, that phone number Braveheart posted is the number that comes up when you Google John Gigax and it goes along with the nazi jewelry website.

3. If this is not the right phone number (that goes along with the nazi jewelry website), then this is NOT the same John Gigax, right?

4. Or, is the guy who sent the email pretending to not know who John Gigax is?

5. Tracey's documentary SAID this guy cannot be located, so ... it makes sense that the Internet (phone number, address) info is outdated. I'm betting the Ramsey case investigators KNOW this Indiana info is bogus. They don't know where he is.

WHY are Tricia and her merry minions trying to HELP this guy? In a twisted form of logic, they think this guy needs their help. By outing him, they believe they are helping him so that he can sue Tracey. (WHAT? my head and neck are developing some sort of palsy)

WHY would anyone go to any lengths to help a guy who has been convicted of sexually assaulting a child, abuses women, has a violent history of sexual assault, scares the heck out of some pretty street-wise men, and is a control freak?

I do know the answer, but Tricia & Co are in MAJOR denial. The reason they are doing this is to show their disapproval of any evidence that might wind up assisting the Ramseys or assisting anyone who supports the Ramseys or who is empathetic to their plight; and to prevent the RESOLUTION OF THIS CRIME in any way that would NOT end with a Ramsey persecution.

JFJB - yeah, right! When they go to such lengths to "help" a person as sick as this guy and disrupt an honest investigation one REALLY has to wonder.

The John Steven Gigax who was discussed in the program is not that easy to locate - I am trusting the actual case investigators to do that and if we can HELP - - well, great. Once found, I hope everyone would leave it to LE to do what needs to happen then.

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Note - LE and the investigators didn't put hisname out there - noone sent me any papers to share with the world - they were happy with things the way they were - and Tracey certainly didn't send me the name to post.

Tricia made the decision to out the suspect - she who knows the least about him as a suspect. Typical BORG move, IMO. Jump on the action without regard to the case - - out the man and scream "LAWSUIT!" What a jerk Tricia is. No concern for getting to the truth - not JonBenét's truth.

And we all have to live with it.

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Imon used to be a valued member of the BORG community but hir is on hir way out because she is not willing to be assimilated any longer.

Imon wrote:

"Steve Thomas said that there were about 600 tips investigated. Would it be right to post each of those persons, involved in those tips, across the internet? No, it would not. And simply because Tracey had a TV show, doesn't make it right to smear the guy's name and info across the internet, either, under the guise of 'helping' the guy. If the guy needed help, he'd have asked for it.

If a person really wanted to help, and knew the guy's private info, they could have contacted him legally and offered to pay for legal help. I'm not falling for the 'I want to help you' junk, in the manner that's been done. It was clearly done to promote some sleuthing abilities and to get internet accolades. Sick.

You can't unring the bell, though. The damage has been done."

Yes, Imon - it was not right and we can't unring the bell.

Attacking anyone who demands the TRUTH be exposed is part of the game. I have had my time being the target, so has Susan Stine, so has Lin Wood, so has Lou Smit. It is simply Tracey's turn this week.

I am honored to be on that list. Truly honored.