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"Lee on Burke as suspect"
 
   Lee on Burke - quotes - - please feel free to discuss his words on this thread.

Police were also pursuing other major suspects. Burke Ramsey certainly fell into that category. On Wednesday morning, January 8, JonBenet's nine-year-old brother traveled to the Child Advocacy Center in Niwot, where child psychologist Dr. Suzanne Bernhard questioned him. Patsy Ramsey sat sobbing inthe next room. Boulder police detectives Linda Arndt, Jane Harmer, and Ron Gosage observed this interview from the next room, behind a one-way window. The two hour conversation that the police observed proved very inconclusive. During breaks, the police suggested avenues to Dr. Bernhard that she should pursue. Burke did not ant to talk about the tragedy, an understandable mind-set. He seemed dazed, even indifferent. The child psychologist gingerly raised the subjects of sexual molestation and other forms of child abuse in the family, and Burke reacted as though there had never been any instances of this. He seemed to be telling the truth, according to both Dr. Bernhard and the detectives. Dr. Bernhard attempted to delve into any secrets that Burke might know, but the boy replied that a fact was no longer a secret if it was told to someone. Police later studied the videotaped interview, carefully arranged with the Ramseys' attorneys, and found no new information in any of it.

Burke Ramsey again became the focus of intense police interest the following spring. After Patsy Ramsey had made her original 911 call before dawn the day before Christmas, she had not completely hung up her phone. For a few tantalizing seconds, police heard background sounds that they could not understand. Detectives sent this tape out to the best electronic experts in the region and, still, save for Patsy Ramsey's sobbing and prayers, nothing more could be made out of the background noise. Then the police discovered a new and expert electronics company, Aerospace Corporation in El Segundo, California, that they provided with a copy of the tape. What came back was worth all of this trouble. When these sounds were brought up many times over, police heard Burke and John Ramsey in an exchange. The child said, "Please, what do I do?" To this John Ramsey replied, "We are not speaking to you." Finally, Burke is heard to ask, "What did you find?" This discovery was extremely critical. Burke, as Patsy Ramsey had said, was supposed to have slept through the discovery of the ransom note and through the discovery of JonBenet's being missing from her bedroom. Mrs. Ramsey had evidently lied about this, and the boy had also not contradicted that fabrication of the facts. But, why? Did this mean that Burke Ramsey had killed his little sister and his terrified parents had created the ransom note to divert attention away from him? There is one very important footnote to this evidentiary breakthrough. The police got their report back from the West Coast experts in May of 1997. Yet the prosecutor's office was not informed about this bombshell evidence for an entire year.


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Lee on Burke as suspect [View All] jamesonadmin 09-08-04 TOP
  What? Maikai 09-08-04 1
     RE: What? Margoo 09-09-04 2
         RE: What? Dave 09-09-04 3
             RE: What? DonBradley 09-09-04 4
                 RE: What? jamesonadmin 09-09-04 5
                     RE: What? Margoo 09-09-04 6
                         RE: What? Rainsong 09-09-04 7
                             RE: What? jamesonadmin 09-10-04 8

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Maikai
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09-08-04, 11:02 PM (EST)
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1. "What?"
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   Is this for real? I'm a bit out of the loop on Lee's book---what an idiot--I can't believe he wrote that cr*p.....this guy is totally overrated and not informed on the case.


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Margoo
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09-09-04, 01:41 AM (EST)
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   I'm with you on this, Maikai.

What decade is Lee's book based on? Lee has not had ANY CONNECTION with this case since 1999.

It has since been proven that there is NO CONVERSATION involving Burke (or John for that matter) on that tape. The ONLY source for that little 'scoop' (some would call it by its real name) is the one and only Steve Thomas -- NO ONE ELSE!

The tape has been checked by NUMEROUS experts and there is no conversation on it involving Burke. There is not a sound on that tape that can be attributed to Burke. The only voice from the Ramsey household that is on that tape is Patsy's (the caller).

Furthermore, I think Dr. Lee just opened himself up for a lawsuit with his sloppy inclination to give the job of writing this chapter to someone who has not checked in on the 21st century.

Appalling.


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Dave
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09-09-04, 01:38 PM (EST)
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   From the quote of Lee's book:

"Yet the prosecutor's office was not informed about this bombshell evidence for an entire year."

Because it was a load of crap and at least one person at BPD had to have known that.


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DonBradley
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   >Because it was a load of crap and at least one person at BPD had to have known that.
Oh, I would imagine that all there knew it to be a load of crap. The goal post does not have to be made of gold or silver, it can be pretty much crap too. So what... its the goal post. So they go in that direction with all they've got.

Voices that no one else can hear? That is no problem to the BPD at all.

Lee had a good reputation so they used him to provide good sound bites and now he is using his reputation to provide good 'advances' and 'royalties' from publishers.



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jamesonadmin
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09-09-04, 03:25 PM (EST)
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   I have sent a copy of this to Lin Wood. I do think Lee should have acted more responsibly before allowing this to go to press. Burke was never a MAJOR suspect. His voice is not on the tape.

Lee was misinformed and remains - - - uninformed.

He is not part of the case and it is rather sad to see him acting like he every was in the thick of it - - he was knee-deep in..... rhetoric, perhaps. But he doesn't know this case.


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Margoo
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09-09-04, 10:16 PM (EST)
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   Since Lee was in so tight with Alex Hunter, how come he missed this?

LKL - March 30, 2000

KING: Burke was cleared, right?
HUNTER: Yes.
KING: Was he a long-time suspect?
HUNTER: No.
KING: The son?
HUNTER: No, he -- no. He was considered, as you would expect.
KING: Anybody in the house.
HUNTER: He was one of three people in the house. But both Chief Beckner and I spoke to the exclusion of Burke.


Oh, I know ... Lee was no longer connected in any way with this case in the year 2000 or thereafter! ;)


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09-09-04, 11:53 PM (EST)
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   LAST EDITED ON 09-09-04 AT 11:53 PM (EST)
 
Supposedly Lee depended on PMPT in writing this book. If so, he missed page 666 of the paperback:

"Then John and Patsy's statement that Burke had been asleep and knew nothing about the events of that morning was called into question when what sounded like Burke's voice could be heard on the tape--if you could be sure it was a voice, said one listener."

Bah. The books is total Ramsey bashing.

Rainsong


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   Amazing that the BORG is not following up with detailed analysis.

(not)


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