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  Carol McKinley talking to Peter Boyles
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August 4th, 1999

"I started listening to some of the detectives, and the scientists, and people from different departments... people who had rifts before, and they all seem to be telling me that they believe JonBenet clawed at her neck as she was dying.  There are some marks on the autopsy report that are called "non-patterned marks", in other words, there's the furrow from the ligatures, then there are bruises and abrasions which are non-patterned, which means they are not in the pattern of the line that the furrow made, and they're in the left, right and center of her neck.  And it's consistent with her own clawing, that she clawed herself as she was dying, or trying to get a breath.  And that was opposite of what I had thought, which was that she was hit on the head so hard that she was just knocked out and never came to again.  To me, the big part of that is, that even after this long, it kinda gave me a stomach turn thinking about how she died...  you know it's different if she died with unconsciousness and never really felt anything after that, but if we know she was gasping for breath and trying to get a finger underneath that cord, as she was dying, it just makes us look at it a little differently.

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  Are They Innocent?
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he JonBenet Ramsey Case
Are they innocent?
Friends say the Ramseys couldn't have killed JonBenet

By Lisa Levitt Ryckman
Rocky Mountain News Staff Writer © 1997, Rocky Mountain News

At first, John and Patsy Ramsey were grieving parents mourning the murder of their 6-year-old daughter.
This story is the result of more than 40 interviews with John and Patsy Ramsey's friends, family and business associates, most of whom had refused to speak with the media. The Ramseys declined to be interviewed.
For exclusive Ramsey family photos, see the Sunday, August 17 issue of the Rocky Mountain News.
At first, everyone grieved with them.
And then, everyone suspected them.
The initial outpouring of sympathy for the Ramseys after the discovery of JonBenet's bound and battered body the day after Christmas quickly turned into ugly innuendo, relentless examination and screaming supermarket tabloid headlines.
Yet no charges have been filed, and through it all the couple have maintained their innocence. And the people who have known them best and longest and most intimately believe them.
"They have been hunted -- haunted -- everywhere. Unbelievably so,'' said Carole Simpson, a long-time family friend. "And when you lose your daughter, and you lose your house, and you lose your privacy, and you don't know who's out there who's done this, and you don't know what else may happen ...it's overwhelming.''
In the merciless court of public opinion, John and Patsy Ramsey have been tried and convicted thousands of times over.
Authorities say the Ramseys are the focus of their investigation. No one else is known to have been in the house the night of the murder, and Patsy Ramsey has not been ruled out as the author of the "ransom'' note.
But the people who know them say the Ramseys most of the world have criticized and condemned -- the billion-dollar businessman and his beauty queen wife, living in some rarefied stratosphere above the law -- are cartoonish caricatures.
They often bring up the name Richard Jewell -- the innocent man convicted first by the FBI, then by the press. The Ramseys have been criticized for what they've done -- going on CNN, hiring attorneys and publicists -- and what they haven't done: mainly, talking to police immediately after JonBenet's body was found.
They have been criticized for their privileged lifestyle, for putting JonBenet in beauty pageants, for doing things most of middle America doesn't. They have been criticized for launching their own investigation, for the way they have grieved, for the way they looked on television. Patsy, 40, was too emotional, people said after they appeared on CNN; John, 53, was not emotional enough.

Patsy and John Ramsey leave St. John's Episcopal Church in Boulder after services on Jan. 5. Cindy Ramsey Johnson, Ramsey's ex-wife, said of John:"Everyone has two faces. What you see of John right now is his public face. . . . You don't see the tears, and you don't see the grief."
Rodolfo Gonzalez/Rocky Mountain News
"I think you have a private face, and you have a public face,'' said Cindy Ramsey Johnson, John's first wife. "Everyone has two faces. What you see of John right now is his public face. You don't see his private face. You don't see the tears, and you don't see the grief. That doesn't mean they're not there.''
The Ramseys their friends know are people who have suffered with dignity, intelligence and grace through more tragedy in the past five years than many people know in a lifetime: the accidental death of one daughter; a touch-and-go battle with cancer; the murder of another daughter.
Now, nearly eight months after JonBenet's murder, the Ramseys' closest friends and family want other people to know what they know, to have some sense of why their faith in John and Patsy Ramsey remains constant, steadfast, utterly unshakable.
"There are people who are questioning them. But my response is always, 'Well, you don't know them,''' said Mary Justice, a friend in Atlanta for almost 18 years. "People who don't know them are convicting them. Because they say there are just too many circumstances that are just too unanswerable. Which is true, very true. But I know in my heart that I'll stick with them to the end. I know they've got a lot of friends who are doing that.''
These are the people who have known and supported the Ramseys through a chronology of crises, a series of events that shattered the couple's happy life, beginning with the death of John's oldest child, Elizabeth Pasch Ramsey.
Everyone called her Beth. She was 22 and in love on the winter day she died.
Her relationship with Matthew Derrington became serious enough that around Christmas of 1991, Beth flew to Chicago to meet his parents. It was during that trip that the couple's car was hit by a semitrailer truck. Beth died from those injuries on Jan. 8, 1992.
"She had just graduated from college, she was working for Delta. Everyone was real proud of her at that time, real happy for her,'' said John Andrew Ramsey, Beth's younger brother. "To see her life get taken like that was an incredible loss for all of us -- Dad in particular. She was his first child, his first daughter.''
"It was so out of the blue,'' said Carole Simpson, a long-time Atlanta friend. "She was doing well, she was happy, she was pretty. Everything was going along just as it should have. Then she was killed. And John was just devastated. The suddenness and the shock and everything was just more than he could come to grips with.''
"I think there's no difference when a child dies, whether that child suffered a long serious illness or if the child was taken from you suddenly in an accident,'' said Cindy Ramsey Johnson, Beth's mother. "The grieving is the same.''
John was overwhelmed, shocked, heartbroken. "I had never seen him like that,'' said long-time friend Jayne Kloster of Atlanta. He and Cindy planned Beth's funeral together.
For Patsy, it was a time to watch over John, to make sure that everything was handled for him. The night before Beth's funeral, Patsy called some of their friends and asked them to come to a gathering at Cindy's house to support John.
"She thought of things like that,'' Carole Simpson said. "When we got there, we realized she had read the situation perfectly. Cindy's brothers and sisters were there. Her friends were there. It was her house. It was an awkward situation. He appreciated the fact that we came.''
John didn't like the large cemetery most people in their Atlanta neighborhood used because of strict rules about what could be done to a gravesite. So Patsy located a small Episcopal cemetery near the church where the service was held. And she had the plot landscaped, in the dead of winter, with flowers. She had a small bench put in, so family and friends could sit and pray.


Two of John Ramsey's daughters lie in a cemetery in Marietta, Ga. JonBenet's unmarked grave is next to Beth's marked one. "I think there's no difference when a child dies," said Cindy Ramsey Johnson, Beth's mother. "The grieving is the same."
Ellen Jaskol/Rocky Mountain News
"She made sure everything looked just right. She was just there for John. She made sure there were always people around,'' Simpson said. "He was very sad for a long time.''
Almost five years later, just days before Christmas 1996, Patsy received a call from Jayne Kloster. Her husband, Gil, had an older son whose newborn girl had died four days after her birth.

"It was devastating. But I knew with what (Patsy and John) had gone through with Beth that Patsy would be the person to talk to about it,'' Kloster said.
She was. "Losing a child and burying a child is about the hardest thing anyone will ever do in their life,'' Patsy told Jayne.
"She went on to tell me how John suffered after Beth died, had read every book on losing a child and burying a child and how difficult it was,'' Kloster added. "She was just telling me how painful the experience was, how it was something that never goes away but they had gotten through it the best they could. But it was through prayer and God and their strong faith.''
Later that day, a bouquet of flowers arrived from Patsy.
That's the sort of people the Ramseys are, their friends say: generous people whose generosity has kept pace with their growing wealth. "You didn't ever say around her, 'Someday, I'd like to have (whatever),' because the next day it would be delivered to your door,'' said Pamela Griffin, a friend of Patsy's whose daughter babysat JonBenet.
Down-to-earth, say their friends and family. The kind of people who invite the neighbors in for pancakes in their pajamas. Consummate hosts who, as one friend put it, could take a frog and make it feel like the most wonderful thing at the party.
Trusting people, who left the side door unlocked in Boulder so their children's friends could come and go. Patsy liked having the neighborhood kids in so she always knew where to find JonBenet and her older brother Burke.
Both natural-born leaders. Both first-born children. Both products of small-town upbringings -- she in West Virginia, he in Michigan.
"We had a wonderful, leave-it-to-Beaver family,'' said John's younger brother, Jeff Ramsey, of their middle-class upbringing by their parents, Mary Jane and Jay, a highly decorated transport pilot in World War II who eventually became director of the Michigan Aeronautics Commission.
"Our parents were both very calm, loving people,'' Jeff Ramsey said. "You couldn't have asked for a better family life.''
Friends say John has the Ramsey reserve -- not the type to display emotion publicly, either affection or anger -- but shows passion about things that matter to him: his family, his business, his hobbies, including race-sailing and flying.
He was the man you wanted at the controls when the plane hit rough weather, said his friend, Gil Kloster, who had flown with John under those circumstances.
"John's the kind of person who comes to the dinner table, may not say a thing all evening, and yet no one ever considers John Ramsey as an introverted, shy, withdrawn person,'' Kloster said. "If John has something to say, he'll come across as very wise or extremely funny and appropriate. He's got a very dry humor that can break everybody up.''


The Ramseys pose for the portrait used in Christmas Cards in 1996. John Ramsey stands with his children Melinda and John Andrew. Patsy Ramsey holds their children JonBenet and Burke.
For the Rocky Mountain News
Patsy and John met each other through mutual friends in Atlanta after John's divorce from Cindy in 1978, which Cindy declined to discuss. They married on Nov. 15, 1980.
The Ramseys were fun to be around, their friends say; one year, they celebrated the Klosters' anniversary by decorating their trees with toilet paper, and leaving a sign on the lawn to make sure the couple knew who was responsible.

They struggled with John's computer business in those early years. Gil Kloster remembers them fretting over a tiny ad they placed in the Atlanta paper, wondering whether it would get any response.
Members of Patsy's family worked for John in Atlanta; her father, Don Paugh, a former Union Carbide engineer, helped create the company that merged in 1988 with two others to form Access Graphics, a distributor of high-performance computer equipment based in Boulder.
For more than a year, John Ramsey commuted from Atlanta for his job as vice president of sales.
In 1991, Lockheed Martin acquired Access, and Ramsey became Access president. Now he needed to be in Boulder full time, and he needed Patsy and the children with him. Patsy agreed to move to Boulder in 1991, even though it meant leaving most of her family and friends.

In five years, John Ramsey shepherded the company from $150 million in sales to more than $1 billion.
Success changed them little, their friends say. John was still ambitious, but unassuming. A man whose favorite vehicle while he lived in Atlanta was a 15-year-old Chevy pickup. A man who was mistaken for a mechanic while tending his own airplanes.
"John's the kind of guy that if you were to meet him and talk to him for the first time, you would come away never knowing he was the president of a billion-dollar company, or that he had any money at all,'' Jeff Ramsey said.
Patsy shared that lack of pretention. Even her closest friends knew her for years before learning she had been Miss West Virginia.
Always beautiful, but never the beauty queen type -- that was Patsy from childhood. At Parkersburg High School, she was never the prom queen or the homecoming queen. She was, instead, the queen of overachievers in a school full of them.
"She was really about being in the background, just doing all kinds of more important things. She was so bright, she was just the kind of person who was a leader,'' said Charlene Pearman, who was a year ahead of Patsy and served on the student council with her.
"If she had an idea, she wasn't afraid to try to get it implemented. It was just amazing. She had a lot of energy. She was more about doing important things. She was just so mature, and maybe saw life from a deeper point of view.''
Patsy cared about doing things that mattered, but it mattered little to her if others were aware of what she had accomplished. Pearman and others were shocked on the high school's award's day to see Patsy sitting in front of two banquet tables loaded with trophies for speech, drama and academics.
Talented and resourceful, Patsy was a forensics coach's dream, said Linda Edison McLean, who met Patsy in 1973, when McLean started coaching the school's speech and debate teams.
"It would be like a first-year basketball coach finding an all-American on the team,'' McLean said. Patsy's particular strength was oral interpretation, which requires a student to interpret a scene from a story or play without costume or props.
Patsy won the state championship in both her junior and senior years and placed second in a national competition for her interpretation of a scene from the play The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, the same scene she used to win the Miss West Virginia pageant in 1977.


Jim Smith, of Parkersburg, W. Va., produced beauty pageants, and Betty Smith was Patsy Ramsey's chaperone for the 1977 Miss America contest. Betty remembers Patsy as "down to earth. . .she always thought about the other person."
For the Rocky Mountain News
"When she was into the beauty pageant stuff, it kind of surprised me,'' Pearman said. "I really didn't think it was about wanting to put on a bathing suit and prance around. I really thought it probably was more about what she was going to do with that scholarship money. Especially since I'd never really seen her put an emphasis on beauty.''
For the Miss America Pageant, Patsy wrote a dramatic scene called Deadline based on a local textbook controversy, featuring a journalist with traditional ideas and a young innovative school teacher that expressed Patsy's views about press freedom and censorship.
It took about 40 hours to write and edit, said Linda McLean, who helped Patsy with it. "It's ironic that Patsy then protested censorship, and now the tabloid press is using its 'freedom' to lie and distort facts and falsely accuse Patsy,'' McLean said.

Patsy didn't make the final 10, but she won a talent award and a $2,000 scholarship.
Preparing for the Miss America Pageant plunges most contestants into chaos, with little time to think about or do anything else. But Patsy put together a fashion show to thank everyone who had supported her and the pageant, and opened it to the public.
"She's someone who really appreciated everything she was given, not someone who says, 'Where's my dress? How much can I spend?''' said Dianne Lough, another former Miss West Virginia and a friend of Patsy's since childhood. "She was someone who was always intensely aware of other people's feelings.
"I just wish everyone knew that.''
Jim and Betty Smith knew. They remember her from the days when they helped the Parkersburg Elks' Club pick the outstanding high school student of 1975 -- Patsy. The couple made pageants a part of their life: he produced them, she chaperoned the state winner, they both acted as judges.
Dianne Lough was the first Miss West Virginia chaperoned by Betty Smith; Patsy Paugh was the last.
"She was just crazy about my husband and children,'' Betty Smith said. "She was just very down-to-earth, never thought she was better than anyone else. But she was in some ways more caring. She always thought about the other person.''
When Betty Smith suffered a stroke in 1985, Patsy flew up from her home in Atlanta with a nightgown and matching housecoat in blue -- Smith's favorite color.
They didn't see each other again for nine years; Smith wasn't in town when Patsy went to Parkersburg to judge the Miss West Virginia pageant in 1993.
During that event, Patsy became aware of an uncomfortable swelling in her abdomen. She began consulting doctors, first in West Virginia and finally in Atlanta, where she ended up hospitalized faced with a terrifying and unexpected diagnosis: ovarian cancer.
Patsy turned to some of her closest friends: Bill and Carole Simpson, Gil and Jayne Kloster.
"Nobody's telling me what's going on,'' she told Gil. "I'm frightened. Will you come and be with me?''
Within a day, Patsy underwent a hysterectomy.


Gil and Jayne Kloster of Atlanta got to know Patsy Ramsey when they suffered a death in the family. "Losing a child and burying a child is about the hardest thing anyone will ever do in their life," Patsy told Jayne.
Ellen Jaskol/Rocky Mountain News
"She called me, and she was crying,'' Carole Simpson said. "I stayed with her the night before the surgery. She said, 'I've got to live for my children.' That's all she said, over and over and over.''
In the debilitating months of chemotherapy that followed, those words became Patsy's mantra. Kloster, a physician, made sure Patsy received the most comprehensive and aggressive treatment possible. He and John made arrangements for her to be part of an experimental cancer program at the National Institutes of Health in Maryland.
"There were a lot of things going on businesswise, but John just shouldered it,'' Carole Simpson said. "He was very upset at the hospital, you could just see the grief on his face and the concern.''

In the beginning, John flew with Patsy to the NIH, where she would undergo four days of a super-potent chemo-cocktail. One weekend, John came through Atlanta, and Carole Simpson posed the question that many of her friends wanted answered but were afraid to ask.
"How bad is it?'' she asked John.
"It's stage four,'' he said, meaning the cancer had spread to other parts of her body. "It's going to be a tough fight.''
For months, Patsy would fly from Boulder to Maryland for chemotherapy, then return home only to end up in Boulder Community Hospital with a dangerously low white blood cell count for the next week or two. She would return home and live in a kind of seclusion in the guest room, so sick that her family had to wear surgical masks in her presence to protect her from infection. Burke and JonBenet knew that when her door was closed, Mommy wasn't feeling well.

"Facing cancer is so difficult, because you are facing your own mortality,'' Patsy said in a December 1994 article in the newsletter, Colorado Woman News. "It's like someone pointing a gun in your face.''
Her hair fell out. Some days, she could barely talk. Her body wasted away. A deeply spiritual person, Patsy sought strength from her faith, her belief in God.
She found solace in a small book with a bright yellow cover called Healed of Cancer, whose author had collected biblical passages that spoke of healing. She visualized a beam of light from God enveloping and healing her. She practiced positive affirmations.
In September 1993, Patsy's friend, the Rev. Rol Hoverstock of St. John's Episcopal Church in Boulder, performed a healing ceremony at her home that ended with Hoverstock giving her a crucifix that had been blessed for her.

"In my mind, I was healed the day of the healing ceremony,'' Patsy told Colorado Woman News.
When her close friend, Mary Justice, was diagnosed with cancer in March 1990, Patsy and Carole Simpson organized a "food chain'' among her friends to make sure Justice's family was fed for the month after her first surgery.
"When I came home from the hospital, there they were, standing in the garage with a nightgown for me," Justice said. "That's the kind of person she is -- always putting somebody else ahead of herself.''
When Patsy was diagnosed with cancer, it became a special bond between the two women. Now they send each other birthday cards every year on the day they were diagnosed, the day, Justice says, they were both reborn.
"One time, Patsy came through Atlanta, and several of us went to the airport,'' Justice said. "She had no hair. If you could have seen the expression on her face. She didn't know we'd be out there, and then she saw us at the gate. It was unbelievable. So many tears were cried.''
John's 50th birthday came during this time. Again, Patsy turned to her friends in Atlanta, who arranged it all. Patsy had to go to Maryland for a cancer treatment that weekend, and when she showed up after John's party, her friends were stunned by how thin she was.


Mary Justice of Atlanta was diagnosed with cancer in 1990. Patsy Ramsey helped organize a "food chain" to provide meals for Justice's family for a month after her first surgery. "That's the kind of person she is--always putting somebody else ahead of herself," Justice said.
Ellen Jaskol/Rocky Mountain News
"I remember hugging her, and thinking she was like a coathanger with a dress hanging on it,'' Carole Simpson said. "That day, it struck me, she was nothing. Like a little bird. It was so sad.
"I'd talk to her on the phone, and she'd cry and say, 'I just have to make it. I just have to make it. For my children.'''
Family gathered and helped. Patsy's mother, Nedra Paugh, moved into their Boulder home to take care of everyone, and began making the trips to NIH with Patsy.
It was a time for intense faith, for optimism, and for random acts of kindness. One of the women undergoing the NIH treatment at the same time as Patsy didn't survive, and her family didn't have money for a funeral.

"John came forward with the money,'' said his brother, Jeff. "But it's not so much that he did it. It's that nobody knew about it. I even heard it secondhand. I had to ask him if it was true.''
In 1994, Patsy learned that Linda McLean's husband, Jim, had been diagnosed with terminal stomach cancer. She flew to West Virgina and showed up at their home without her wig, even though her hair was only beginning to grow back.
"She showed him that she had survived and gave him hope that he, too, could conquer it,'' McLean said. Patsy sent cards and letters and a box of inspirational books. "She was our light to keep going.''
Jim McLean died in March 1995. "But because of Patsy he never gave up hope,'' Linda McLean said. "She loved Jim, and he loved her, and I love her, because she is as good a person as I have ever known.''
If you ask Patsy Ramsey whether she believes in angels, she will say she does. She believed that John's daughter, Beth, became her guardian angel after her death, and helped Patsy survive her cancer. She was convinced the day she underwent a scan to determine if the chemotherapy had successfully eradicated her cancer.
''Beth, if you are there, please help me get through this,'' Patsy silently prayed. She told Colorado Woman News that something amazing happened then:
"Suddenly, over my right shoulder, a young woman appeared. She looked exactly like Beth: same hairstyle, same hair color, same lipstick, everything! She said to me, 'My name is Bethany, and I will be running your CAT scan.' I never saw her before at the center, and I never saw her since.''
The CAT scan was negative. It was a second chance.
"They lost a lot of time together when she was so ill,'' said Patsy's friend, Dianne Lough. "I know she wanted to make every day count.''
Their friends and children describe the Ramseys as loving parents.
John and Cindy's kids, Beth, Melinda and John Andrew, all loved Patsy. John Andrew still remembers how she helped him with his fourth-grade project on the state of Virginia by cutting out Virginias from cardboard for his report. She held a luncheon at their country club in honor of Melinda's debut, and spent hours making the topiary centerpieces for each table.
"She loved those kids just as much as she loved Burke,'' said Shirley Brady, who had been Burke's nanny and later baby-sat JonBenet. "She was so good to them. And they adored her.''

John and Cindy divorced when their children were young; John Andrew was still a toddler. But wherever John's business took him, he called them every day.
"Every night, 7 o'clock, that was Dad,'' John Andrew said. They would see him every weekend, and calls from his kids always took priority at work. "I was always more important than any meeting,'' his son said.
"There couldn't be any better parents,'' said Irene Wills, John's former mother-in-law and stepmother. "I think John realized, especially after Beth's death, how much they mean to him.''
The Ramseys' friend, Jay Elowsky, saw the family frequently at his Pasta Jay's restaurants and was impressed by the couple's patience with Burke and JonBenet.


A photo of Patsy Paugh Ramsey as Miss West Virginia of 1977 hangs on the wall of Colombo's Restaurant in Parkersburg, her home town. It was in 1993, when she went back to judge the Miss West Virginia pageant that she noticed the first symptoms of ovarian cancer.
Ellen Jaskol/Rocky Mountain News
"I was talking to John about that, because he's an older father. He said, 'I'm really digging fatherhood the second time around. I've got the time, I've learned, I'm really having a lot more fun with it.' ''
Patsy's dedication to children began long before she had her own, friends say. She and Carole Simpson spent more than a year refining and expanding a Christmas card fund-raising project to benefit Eggleston Children's Hospital in Atlanta, taking it from $15,000 in earnings to more than $80,000.

"If a child was sick in the neighborhood, Patsy would be making cupcakes and delivering them,'' Jayne Kloster said.
For years, the Ramseys, the Klosters and several other couples had made an annual outing to North Carolina. Patsy's cancer kept the Ramseys away for a couple of years, but they were back again last October, full of optimism and hope for the future.
During that trip, Patsy pulled out photos of JonBenet in her first beauty pageant. "That's the first any of us ever knew about that,'' Gil Kloster said.
It was, say all the people who knew, such a small part of JonBenet's life, a part that has taken on a life of its own with her death.
The JonBenet they knew was the one trying to keep up with her big brother, Burke. "She was a tomboy with scrapes on her knees, just like any 6-year-old,'' John Andrew Ramsey said.

The foray into pageants, which began in earnest in 1996, was a way for Patsy and JonBenet to be closer. Because of Patsy's cancer, they had to make up for lost time.
"It's just mother-daughter time,'' said Tammy Polson, who became friends with Patsy when their daughters competed at pageants together. "It's something you can share together.''
The expensive, custom-made dresses and costumes were part of Patsy's desire to do things exactly right. She even discussed the idea of making extra dresses to bring to pageants and share with other little girls, even if they were competing against JonBenet. And she wanted them to be as elaborate and beautiful as her daughter's.
"She never did anything halfway. I think ever since she had cancer, her intensity has increased,'' Dianne Lough said. "Do the best she could with everything she did. Because she didn't know how long she'd be around.''
Pageantry had been good to Patsy, and she believed it would be good for JonBenet, a way to learn poise and self-confidence and to provide an outlet for her daughter's love of performing.
"She is just so easy and so gentle, and she had so many good things to teach her child,'' said Pamela Griffin, who designed most of JonBenet's pageant costumes. "If JonBenet did not win a pageant, she was always the first one in line to congratulate the winner, always the gracious loser. If she won -- and when she won, she won big -- she'd be standing there with five or six trophies and a dozen crowns, and she'd immediately go give them to some of the little girls who didn't win.


Musician Shirley Brady of Americus, Ga., was a nanny for Burke Ramsey and later was a babysitter for JonBenet. She wrote a song for JonBenet after the girl was killed.
Patrick Davison/Rocky Mountain News

"Patsy always taught that kind of graciousness.''
It was the same spirit that infused the Ramseys' entertaining, something they both loved. Their parties were elaborate and meticulously planned, down to the tiniest detail.
Their Christmas party was an annual event, and 1996 was no different. As always, Santa Claus was there to read stories to the children. The party, two days before Christmas, was just one event on their jam-packed holiday calendar. There was a trip to their Charlevoix, Mich., vacation home right after Christmas, and then on to the Disney Big Red Boat to celebrate Patsy's 40th birthday on Dec. 29. The Little Miss Hawaiian Tropic pageant was on JonBenet's agenda for the first of the year.
The family's schedule was so hectic, in fact, that it was Christmas Eve before Patsy was able to mail out the bundles of cards she sent each year, complete with photo, family letter and personal note.
Fourth-grader Burke really shines in math and spelling, she wrote. Kindergartener JonBenet has already been promoted to first-grade math. "Her teacher says she is so outgoing that she will never have trouble delivering an oral book report!''
The day after Christmas, the cards arrived.
And then the calls came: JonBenet was dead.
"I had not finished reading that note Patsy enclosed with that picture an hour earlier,'' Mary Justice said. "It was just real bizarre. Real bizarre.''
John Andrew and Melinda had flown from their mother's Atlanta home to Minneapolis, where the rest of the family planned to meet for the trip to Michigan. A message was waiting for them: call Boulder.
"I had this gut feeling -- I've been through this before -- that something was wrong,'' John Andrew said. "I called home, and my Dad said JonBenet had been kidnapped. At that point, they had found the ransom note.''
Immediately, they boarded a plane to Denver. "I yelled and I kicked and I screamed, and they put us on the next flight out,'' John Andrew said.
They arrived in Boulder just after their father found JonBenet's body in the basement.


Patsy Ramsey holds a poster the Ramseys had printed offering a $100,000 reward for information in the slaying of JonBenet. Patsey also sent a letter to members of her childhood church congregation: "We miss her very much. I cry myself to sleep every night."
Patrick Davison/Rocky Mountain News
Carole Simpson already had heard the news when Patsy called on Dec. 27. "She was just sobbing. She said, 'I can't believe someone did this to my baby! Someone came into my house and murdered my baby!' She just kept repeating that, over and over and over.''

Immediately, the Ramseys' family of friends mobilized. When John and Patsy returned to Atlanta to bury JonBenet, they would stay with them in shifts, around the clock.
About 20 friends and relatives met their plane in Atlanta.
"I had never seen people with broken hearts,'' Mary Justice said of the Ramseys. "There were no words to describe it.''
They buried JonBenet on the last day of the year in an unmarked grave in St. James Episcopal Cemetery, another child interred in the winter's ground. Surrounded by masses of flowers, like Beth before her.
Even at the funeral, John Andrew had to put himself between photographers and Burke. It was only the beginning.
Back in Boulder, the Ramseys moved out of their house and in with friends to escape reporters and photographers. They spent the six weeks after the funeral with Jay Elowsky, who had to steel himself each time he returned to them.
"It was a very tragic, very heavy environment. I would have done anything in the world to take that suffering away from them.'' Instead, Elowsky found himself swinging at paparazzi with a baseball bat.
John and Patsy, out in Atlanta on an errand, saw a photographer pull up next to them and try to take their picture. "Pull into the drive-through at the bank and have the teller call the police,'' Patsy told John.
When they pulled into the bank, the photographer jumped out of his car, ran over to the Ramseys and pushed a camera in John's face.
"Why did you kill your daughter?'' he screamed, snapping pictures.
"Of course it upsets me,'' Melinda Ramsey said of all the negative publicity, of being chased during her vacation by obscenity-spewing photographers from supermarket tabloids. "But I know my Dad better than anybody else. I've known him for 25 years. And I know he could not have done this at all. To me, it is just so shocking that anyone could believe they've done this. It's just beyond belief.''
Her little sister, JonBenet Patricia Ramsey, would have turned 7 this month.
So much has changed.
John Andrew, alone now in Boulder, always looks over his shoulder when he goes out. The Ramseys have moved back to Atlanta, a place where they feel at home.
Still, there will be no unlocked doors. Their new home has state-of-the-art security. They have hired guards to keep them safe from prying cameras and reporters.
"I'm tired of waiting for the system to work, because it's not working,'' Jeff Ramsey said. "I'm tired of hearing all these innuendos. Somebody out there murdered a member of this family. It's not John or Patsy. So whoever did it is still out there.''
"The most important thing is to find whoever did this. So this can't happen again,'' Melinda Ramsey said. "It may take years, but this person will be found.''
John and Patsy, their friends say, take it day by day.

"When I came home from the hospital, there they were standing in the garage with a nightgown for me,'' Justice sai "We miss her very much,'' Patsy wrote of JonBenet in a letter thanking people at her childhood church in Parkersburg for keeping them on the prayer list. "I cry myself to sleep every night.''
"They are trying to get their lives back as best they can,'' Jayne Kloster said. "Patsy still has fear because she doesn't know who did it. Someone asked her if she had reached the angry stage yet, and she said, 'I'm still living in fear. I don't know who to be angry at, because I don't know who did this.' She's still looking over her shoulder, not knowing who's out there.''


A stuffed bunny and flowers decorate the grave of JonBenet in Marietta, Ga. On Aug. 6, the slain beauty queen would have been 7.
Laura Noel/ Special to the News
Could they have done it?

No, say the Ramseys. No, say their family. No, say their friends.
"I have to be perfectly honest, I had to stop and ask myself that question,'' Carole Simpson said. "I honestly can say it didn't make any sense to me that they had done it. You can't feign that kind of innocence. You can't make that up. I know the kind of people they are. I've seen them with their children.''
"Certainly, everyone wants an answer,'' Gil Kloster said. "My concern is, (what if) they never know? They not only have to deal with the loss, they're also suspects. It's a living hell.''
There may never be an answer to what happened to JonBenet. Many people will always suspect the Ramseys. Their friends and family say they never will.
"The (public) doesn't know them. And the public is accustomed to being betrayed. Look at Susan Smith,'' Gil Kloster said, referring to the young mother who made up a kidnapping story to conceal the fact she had murdered her two young sons.
"This poor, grieving mother, so distraught. Susan Smith was pretty convincing. For a few days, Susan Smith was a sympathetic person.
"If John and Patsy had anything to do with this, they would make Susan Smith look like a kindergartener.''

August 17, 1997

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  FINDING THE BODY
Posted by: jameson245 - 11-21-2020, 01:17 PM - Forum: December 26th - No Replies

Statements or information is not in any order here - - sources cited where possible

PMPT - hard cover page 15 - "White knelt beside Ramsey and touched on of JonBenét's feet.  The child was dead cold."

Thought - could this be that strange shape found near the two footprints?

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  ST on GJ (deposition)
Posted by: jameson245 - 11-21-2020, 12:37 PM - Forum: Grand Jury Indictments - No Replies

Quote:Steve Thomas Deposition (Atlanta, Georgia)
Wolf vs Ramsey Civil Action File No. 00-CIV-1187(JEC)

(Grand Jury Discussion)

48
17 Q. Did you ever receive any
18 information about grand jury testimony or
19 evidence in the case?
20 A. Never.




(SNIP)




53
7 Q. Do you have any other documents
8 about this investigation, other than those
9 documents? Do you?
10 A. Oh, I'm sorry. If I understand
11 the question correctly, no, as I said, not
12 that I recall because post-August '98 began
13 the grand jury. And certainly I don't have
14 any information from the grand jury room.




(SNIP)




202
4 Q. (BY MR. WOOD) You said very
5 clearly to Mr. Hoffman you do not know the
6 state of the evidence with respect to the
7 JonBenet Ramsey investigation, as you sit here
8 today, the state of the evidence as of
9 September 2001, true?
10 A. After leaving the police
11 department, yes, that concluded my official
12 participation. I have followed the case
13 through the media, but as far as being privy
14 to anything that occurred in the grand jury
15 or continued evidence testing, I'm unaware of
16 that.
17 Q. You knew the state of the evidence
18 as it existed in the case as of March 2001,
19 true?
20 A. That was during the period which
21 -- no, the grand jury had concluded -- no, I
22 -- no, I wasn't inside the police department
23 reviewing evidence at that time either.

24 Q. But what you did know and you had
25 actual knowledge of was that a grand jury had


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1 met for some 13 months and had not issued an
2 indictment against John and Patsy Ramsey,
3 right?
4 A. I don't know that. Do you know
5 that?
6 Q. Sir, was an indictment issued? Do
7 you have information there was an indictment
8 of my clients that nobody has bothered
9 telling them or me about?
10 MR. HOFFMAN: Actually, Lin,
11 Patrick Burke has information that he should
12 have told you about which he announced to the
13 media that according to him the grand jury
14 actually took a straw poll. Why don't you
15 ask Patrick Burke.
16 MR. WOOD: Let me tell you,
17 Darnay, that won't count against my time.
18 MR. HOFFMAN: Okay.
19 MR. WOOD: But you're right, it
20 was a straw poll; it was a vote not to
21 indict. Thank you for bringing something to
22 my attention that I already knew.
23 MR. HOFFMAN: Okay.

24 Q. (BY MR. WOOD) Would you answer
25 my question, sir? It's pretty simple. You

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1 know that no indictment was issued by the
2 grand jury, true?
3 A. I don't know what the grand jury
4 did.
5 Q. I'm not asking you what they did
6 in terms of whether they voted or not, sir.
7 MR. DIAMOND: I think he's asking
8 you --
9 Q. (BY MR. WOOD) I'm asking you
10 whether they issued an indictment to indict
11 John and/or Patsy Ramsey?
12 MR. DIAMOND: -- are you aware of
13 any public report of such an indictment.
14 A. No.
15 Q. (BY MR. WOOD) You also know that
16 after the grand jury was dismissed that Alex
17 Hunter stated publicly that all seven of the
18 prosecutors in the case unanimously agreed
19 that this was not a case where they felt
20 that evidence was sufficient to justify at
21 that time a prosecution. You know that, too,
22 don't you, sir?
23 A. That Hunter --
24 Q. Made that statement publicly?
25 A. Made the statement that his

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1 advisors supported that decision?
2 Q. Seven prosecutors, not his
3 advisors, seven prosecutors, you know that,
4 don't you, sir?
5 A. I know that statement was made.

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Quote:
Steve Thomas Deposition - 09-21-2001
Chris Wolf vs Ramsey Civil Case

(Grand Jury Discussion)





(SNIP)




391
24 Q. Do you know of any prosecutor who
25 is familiar with the evidence that has

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1 concluded that the evidence shows beyond a
2 reasonable doubt that Patsy Ramsey is guilty
3 of the homicide of her daughter?
4 A. No, because the prosecutors privy
5 to that evidence are bound by grand jury
6 secrecy and none have violated that with me.




(SNIP)




394
13 Q. Why did you not, when you had old
14 Barry Scheck, a nice guy, Henry Lee, all
15 these VIPs there, why did you not include the
16 intruder evidence in the presentation to
17 objectively give those individuals both sides
18 of the case?
19 A. Because the Boulder Police
20 Department's position was, as I understood it
21 and understand it, the VIP presentation was
22 to show that there was sufficient probable
23 cause to arrest Patsy Ramsey and for the DA's
24 office to move it forward through the use of
25 a grand jury with that end in mind.

395
1 Q. Of an indictment which is a
2 finding by a grand jury of probable cause to
3 charge or arrest, right?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. You've been in the business long
6 enough to know that the grand jury can, as
7 they say, indict a ham sandwich, right? It
8 doesn't take much evidence to indict or
9 arrest, does it, sir?
10 A. My understanding of probable cause
11 is facts and evidence and circumstances that
12 are within the knowledge of a police officer
13 that would lead a reasonable person to
14 conclude that, A, a crime was committed and
15 B, that a particular individual was involved.
16 Sometimes, depending on the case,
17 that can sometimes be a great threshold.




(SNIP)




424
24 Q. You state in your book there were
25 27 reasons for a grand jury and it's at page

425
1 309. But my question is, were those 27
2 reasons for a grand jury correlate to the 27
3 remaining tasks that were referred to in that
4 June '98 press release by the Boulder Police
5 Department?
6 A. Let me look at 309 real quickly.
7 308, 309?
8 Q. It's on 309 and I've got a copy
9 of that press release where he says there
10 were 27 tasks remaining. I'm just wondering
11 if that's the correlation.
12 A. Oh, if I understand you correctly,
13 did these 27 reasons correspond with the 27
14 tasks left on the to-do list?
15 Q. Yes.
16 A. No.




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6 Q. What I want to know is if you can
7 date that for me? "'The case is not being
8 handled well,' said the CASKU agents."
9 A. Shortly before I believe the
10 Ramseys' April 30, 1997 interview.
11 Q. Can you identify the three agents
12 for me?
13 A. Supervisory special agent Bill
14 Hagmaier, special agent Mike Morrow, and their
15 partner and the third special agent, his name
16 just escapes me at the moment.
17 Q. And those three agents prior to
18 April 30, 1997 said that the intruder theory
19 was absurd, Hofstrom needs to act like a
20 prosecutor not a public defender. Don't do
21 tomorrow's interview and get a grand jury as
22 soon as possible, right?
23 A. Yes.

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  Acandyrose on GJ - timeline
Posted by: jameson245 - 11-21-2020, 11:34 AM - Forum: Grand Jury Indictments - Replies (10)

Ramsey Grand Jury
September 15, 1998 to October 13, 1999



CHAIN OF EVENTS 1997



Quote:1997-12-07: Daily Camera: Current jury members

Current jury members
Sunday, December 7, 1997

Under Colorado law, Boulder County must maintain a permanent grand jury, because its population is more than 100,000.

Although there is talk that the JonBenet Ramsey murder case may go to a grand jury, the current members may well not hear the case: State law dictates that permanent grand juries must be replaced every 18 months.

The current members of Boulder County's Grand Jury, seated until May, are:

Foreperson Melissa Gregory, Lafayette
Assistant foreperson Steven Wells, Longmont
Victoria Dietz, Longmont
Patrick Graninger, Louisville
Thomas Herman, Longmont
Manfredt Kledt, Boulder
Viola Kniceley, Louisville
Cedric Peebles, Louisville
Robert Phelan Jr., Boulder
Tincy Royer, Broomfield
Dorothy Showers, Longmont
Lorraine Simon, Boulder

Alternates are:

R. Brent Cherry, Boulder
Janice Jankovsky, Broomfield
Mark Laitos, Longmont
Linda Little, Boulder





The NEW Ramsey Grand Jury Members Below
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James Plese
Foreman

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Loretta Resnikoff
Assistant Forewoman

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Elizabeth Annecharico
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Michelle Czopek
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Frances Diekman
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Josephine Hampton
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Martin Kordas Jr
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Susan LeFever
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Barbara McGrathArnold
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Martin Pierce
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Tracey Vallad
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Jonathan Webb

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  on NOT cooperating
Posted by: jameson245 - 11-20-2020, 04:17 PM - Forum: Ramsey cooperation - No Replies

John Ramsey - "Our only requirement from the very beginning was that our police interviews be attended by one member of the District Attorney's office.  We were not going to allow ourselves to be interrogated by a bunch of inexperienced cops hell bent on putting us in the gas chamber.  The police refused this simple requests for months and publicly stated every chance they got that we were not cooperating and therefore must be guilty.  My biggest sorrow continues to be that while this circus side show goes on, no one, except for Lou Smit and a few journalists, are trying to find the killer."

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  neighbors asked about...
Posted by: jameson245 - 11-15-2020, 04:28 PM - Forum: Hi-Tec footwear - No Replies

DOI Page 232

"On December 6, 1997, an article in the New York Times brought an issue to light on the national scene that should have started to unravel the police mask of competence. A University of Colorado history professor, Patricia Limerick, who lived directly across the street from our house at 755 Fifteenth Street, was interviewed. In this particular story Patricia said, "My husband and I have never interviewed by the police. For weeks I assumed it was a measure of how well the police doing. Now, I am not so sure. " Eleven months have passed since the murder, and the neighborhood around our former house had never been completely canvassed. Where were the police? Patricia Limerick was asking the right questions.

A few days later, another telling story hit the newspapers, reporting that the police had been asking our friends if they owned shoes or boots with the brand SAS or Hi-Tec. We did not own either brand, and the police were trying to explain away the footprint they had found in the cellar near JonBenet's body. Obviously, the SAS or Hi-Tech footprint could be an important piece of evidence.

The police also began the task of collecting palm prints and mouth swabs to follow up on the prints and genetic material found in the basement and on JonBenet's body. Our friends and their children were approached by the cops and asked to give samples. It had certainly taken the BPD a long time to get around to gathering this important evidence, Patsy and I thought. Yet we felt sorry for our friends. Many of them had to submit to this kind of examination, which obviously was an annoyance. (We wondered if the police were doing the same sampling on the suspects we had given them.) The police, we were later to learn, were mostly trying to explain away the evidence they had found that contradicted their theory that "the Ramseys did it"," in order to eliminate any defense strategy."

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Posted by: jameson245 - 11-15-2020, 04:19 PM - Forum: December 28th - No Replies

1996-12-28: Family's friends remember: 'She was like a little doll'


http://www.boulderdailycamera.com/extra/ramsey/1996/12/28-2.html
Family's friends remember: 'She was like a little doll'
By ALLI KRUPSKI
Camera Staff Writer
December 28, 1996

Monday night, JonBenet Ramsey gave Santa a bottle of stardust at her family's annual Christmas party.

"She gave it to me for my beard, and that just shows that she was thinking about giving and not just getting," said Bill McReynolds, who played Santa at the Ramsey family's Christmas celebration the past three years. "It was a particularly buoyant party, and about 50 people were there. They had lots of decorations, and that was their style. They just loved Christmas."

Less than 24 hours after the holiday ended, the 6-year-old aspiring beauty queen was dead, found strangled in the family's basement.

"She had an angel's spirit, which is unusual not only among adults, but children, and I'm just devastated that she's gone," McReynolds said.

Other family friends and co-workers had similar reactions to JonBenet's death. On Friday, they recalled her as a mature, generous, sweet young girl who loved singing and dancing. JonBenet - the daughter of a former Miss West Virginia and the president of Access Graphics, a Boulder-based computer distribution company - won the 1995 Little Miss Colorado pageant and America's Tiny Little Miss in 1996, family friends said.

"This child was like a little doll," said Dee Dee Nelson-Schneider, a family friend who worked with Patsy Ramsey, JonBenet's mother, as a volunteer at Flatirons Elementary School. "She just had stage presence, and Patsy coaching her a lot, and they interacted beautifully. Patsy had all these pet names for her, like Sugar. It was just a special relationship."

But the family has encountered tragedy before, friends said. Patsy battled ovarian cancer, Nelson-Schneider noted. "There was one time when she walked into school and had on a wig because she lost all of her hair to chemotherapy," she said. "I came back about two hours later and she had taken her wig off, and she was practically bald, and she was still working. She had cancer, and yet she was still at the school working. That's just how dedicated she was."

In another incident about five years ago, John Ramsey's daughter from his first marriage died in a car accident. Ramsey also has another college-age daughter and a son from that marriage, friends said.

"Certainly, I think people are shocked whether they knew John or not," said Laurie Wagner, vice president for worldwide development at Access Graphics. The company, a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin in Bethesda, Md., recently celebrated its first $1 billion in revenues.

"People are very concerned for the family but continue to do what they need to do with their job," Wagner said. JonBenet occasionally would arrive at the office and take her father out to lunch with her family, Wagner said.

"She was a charming little girl," Wagner said. "I think when something like this happens, it always makes people contemplate about their own situation; that's a natural reaction. But there doesn't seem to be any need for alarm."

Friends, however, said the incident frightened them.

"It's really scary, because you don't think something like this can happen here," said a family friend who declined to give his name. "They just came by Christmas night ... to drop off a present, and they seemed fine. Patsy was just bubbly, full of life, and she was excited about going to Michigan the next day."

Another close family friend didn't notice anything unusual with the family Monday night.

"I was at the party, and everybody was just so happy," he said. "JonBenet was taking Santa around, and she was with her brother (10-year-old Burke) for a while. The two of them just got along wonderfully."

Indeed, JonBenet doted on her older brother, McReynolds said.

"Last year, she wanted to make sure I spent enough time with him," McReynolds said. "And she always wanted to make sure everyone was having a good time, which is why I was so surprised that she was so young ... I'll really miss her angel spirit."

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1996-12-27: Missing girl found dead


http://www.boulderdailycamera.com/extra/ramsey/1996/12/27-1.html
Missing girl found dead
Six-year-old was reported kidnapped earlier in day
By ELLIOT ZARET and ALLI KRUPSKI
Camera Staff Writers
December 27, 1996

A 6-year-old Boulder girl reported kidnapped early Thursday was found dead in her parents' house later that afternoon.

Boulder police said a family member discovered the body of Jon Benet Ramsey - daughter of Access Graphics president John Ramsey and Patricia Ramsey - in the basement of the family house at 755 15th St. about 1:30 p.m. The child was the 1995 Little Miss Colorado and a student at Martin Park Elementary School, according to a family friend.

The FBI joined the investigation because the child initially was reported kidnapped at 5:30 a.m. Police detectives and crime scene investigators began searching the house late Thursday after securing a search warrant. No details of what they had found were disclosed.

Although the official cause of death was not yet known, Police Chief Tom Koby said the case is considered a homicide. The child had not been shot or stabbed, said Detective Sgt. Larry Mason. It is Boulder's first official homicide of 1996, Koby said.

No arrest had been made as of press time, and police had no suspects, Mason said. The Boulder County coroner's office refused to discuss details of the case, though an autopsy will be performed today, according to city spokeswoman Leslie Aaholm.

Neighbors described Jon Bonet as a friendly, outgoing child. "She was a beautiful little girl," said Diane Brumfitt, a school counselor who lives next door to the Ramseys. "But her personality - she was very engaging and charming."

Brumfitt said police were outside the Ramsey house most of the day. The Ramseys left in a friend's car at midday, she said.

"It was almost surreal," said Brumfitt. "It just didn't seem real at all."

Joe Barnhill, who lives across the street, said he stowed the Christmas bicycle John Ramsey bought for Jon Bonet until Christmas Eve. Barnhill was outside the house Thursday afternoon walking Jon Bonet's dog - a pet he said she received as a birthday present about two years ago.

He described the Ramseys - John, Patricia, Jon Bonet and her older brother, Burke - as a happy family. "They are such congenial people - the best neighbors," said Barnhill.

Barnhill said Jon Bonet's mother, called Patsy - a former Miss West Virginia - raised a well-mannered, polite daughter. "She has been working so hard to groom her and raise her for the society we live in," said Barnhill.

"Patsy is a doting, loving, incredible mother," said Dee Dee Nelson-Schneider, a family friend who worked with Patsy Ramsey at Flatirons Elementary School. "If anything, they spoiled Jon Bonet. For instance, one day Jon Bonet said to her mother that she didn't have enough dresses, so Patsy took her shopping and let her get some dresses."

Patsy Ramsey traveled around the country with Jon Bonet to attend her daughter's beauty contests. "They were so serious about this beauty queen stuff, but they never put any pressure on her. She was Little Miss Colorado in 1995," said Nelson-Schneider.

"She had her own float in the Colorado Parade of Lights in December 1995, and Patsy walked along the side of the float the whole parade to make sure (Jon Bonet) was safe. That's how protective Patsy was."

The Ramsey family was preparing to go to a second home in Michigan for vacation, a neighbor said.

John Ramsey's company, the Boulder-based computer distributor Access Graphics, recently celebrated its first $1 billion in revenues. Access Graphics, a subsidiary of Bethesda, Md.-based Lockheed Martin Corp., employs 380 people in Boulder.

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  Combining threads....
Posted by: jameson245 - 11-15-2020, 04:12 PM - Forum: Christmas Day, 1996 - No Replies


December 25th, 1996
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Christmas Day - not much information was available for over 18 months -  there was silence from the family, friends, authorities.  Only 19 months later, when the documentary aired in Denver, did the public get a glimpse of what happened that day.
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What time did the children wake up? John told us in the documentary - "I can remember Burke and JonBenét running up to our bed to get us up. The little kids would pass out the gifts to whoever they were for and we would go around the room and open each gift – We did that that morning."
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What gifts did they receive? What was their reaction?  We know about the bike, JonBenét got a bike.
 At the release of the autopsy, we surmised that JonBenét received jewelry - she received an ID bracelet with her name on the front and the date 12/25/1996 on the back, and she received a small gold cross and a gold ring. She was wearing this jewelry when her body was found.


(We later were told she was given the ID bracelet at the Christmas Party on the 23rd. )
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Burke would have been the right age to get the new Nintendo 64 that was just released. We know he got a model that his father helped him with later that night.
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 In the British documentary, John described how the children passed out the gifts and then they watched each open what they got in turn.
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 The police took all the cameras and film as evidence, but it was returned later to the family.  We can see JonBenét  on the last day of her life.
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Early on, no one said anything about that day, NOTHING! Without any evidence that JonBenét spoke to anyone outside the house on Christmas day, without photographic evidence that she opened her gifts or laughed at a new toy, some observers theorized that JonBenét never saw that morning.
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Patsy spoke to Shirley Brady, previous nanny and family friend, in Atlanta Ga. Mrs. Brady could hear the children playing in the background. Patsy told her that the four of them were alone, having a quiet Christmas morning.
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Patsy spoke to Mrs. Brady about her cancer. She felt God had healed her, she felt good. "I told you the good Lord won't let me die. I want to live so I can raise my children."
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14 months later, we would hear rumors that three neighborhood girls went to the house to visit JonBenét. They were told she didn't feel well, but did visit JonBenét in her room. True? Conflicting reports and no word from the witnesses made this a confusing issue more than 2 years after the crime. But the subject dropped from discussion soon after it started so many felt it was rumor and nothing more.

(2019 note - - no one ever said JBR was sick that day - that was a BORG myth put out to support the theory that there had been prior sexual assault.)
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Pam Paugh, Patsy's sister, spoke to JonBenét on the phone. JonBenét thanked her for her gift - a gold cross on a chain - the cross she wore when she was murdered hours later. She told Pam that she had been riding her bike IN THE HOUSE (giggle, giggle), she loved her Twinn Doll, and she told her aunt that Burke had gotten the Nintendo he had wanted.
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11-30-2019, 05:43 AM

Later in the day, Burke was seen outside, riding his bike, by Joe Barnhill. Joe did not see JonBenét.
Burke also played on the street with his remote control car.
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JonBenét DID ride her bike that day, on the patio on the side of the house - where Joe Barnhill would not have seen her from his house or yard. JonBenét rode her bike with her father. They made a memory.
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It is a bittersweet memory for John Ramsey.
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In his words - "JonBenét had gotten a bicycle that Christmas and we played most of the day. We were going to go out to dinner and I remember we were trying to get everybody organized to leave and JonBenét was on her bike and wanted me to take her around the block. I said, no - no we don’t have time, we’ll do this later. She said, 'Oh Daddy please,' and I can remember that and that kind of hurts because we didn’t do that." (from the documentary)
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11-30-2019, 05:44 AM

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JAR, Melinda, their mother, Lucinda Johnson, and her friend Mr. Harry Smiles, had Christmas dinner with Atlanta friend and neighbors, Judy and Jerry Crowder. They would later help solidify JAR's alibi, very important since he was a very popular suspect right from the beginning.
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11-30-2019, 05:46 AM

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4:30 - 9:30 pm - The Ramseys were with the Fleet White family for Dinner Christmas afternoon and left sometime around 9:30. The mood at the dinner was very relaxed and cordial, there was no indication of any problem between family members or friends.
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When the Ramseys arrived at the Whites, dinner was almost ready to be served. They nibbled a little on snacks until dinner was completely ready and then sat down. Then the children went upstairs to play with the new Christmas toys. They were happy, it was, after all, Christmas and a party.
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There was one point when the children left the house. Fleet took the children and joined a small group of neighborhood carolers for a short time.
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When they got back to the house, they were happy. It had been a good day.
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ò¿ó - personal comment - One of the big questions is where JonBenét may have eaten pineapple that night. It was described in the autopsy as POSSIBLE pineapple, passed through the stomach, in the intestines. snip
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11-30-2019, 05:47 AM

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The Ramseys did not go directly home that night - they dropped off gifts to two other families, the Walkers and the Stines. These people gave statements to the police of what they saw that night - JonBenét in the back seat of the car, a tired but happy family who had a nice Christmas, and had no idea what the night held.
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personal note - ò¿ó - As of October 1999, my sources were telling me all of the people who saw JonBenét that night have not been interviewed. Police oversight? Or is it really that they don't want to hear from these Ramsey friends?
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Patsy - "By the time we got home, JonBenét had fallen asleep in the back seat." (from the documentary)
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11-30-2019, 05:49 AM

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Sometime before the Ramseys got home, it was reported, Joe Barnhill saw someone he thought was JAR going to the Ramsey house. This was incorrect. Joe Barnhill has since said he did not say that. Someone else did, but not Joe Barnhill. Someone DID see someone approaching the house, the witness was visiting in the neighborhood and has asked his name not be revealed. (Located by 2019 podcast project, the man denied making the statement.)
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He was wrong about it being JAR, JAR was in Atlanta, but this sighting may be something to consider as the case unfolds. There WAS a sighting, it was NOT JAR. Remember, however, there was an alley behind the Ramsey house, access to other homes. Maybe the person seen was simply crossing the yard to the alley - could be.
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But it could have been an intruder approaching the Ramsey house.
(In January, there would be a press release on the "Midnight Burglar". He was last heard of on Christmas night, 1996. He disappeared that night. Coincidence? Maybe, but the BPD never said that the evidence found at the Ramsey house was NOT a match to anything found at the other scenes. We don't know if they ever checked.)
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11-30-2019, 05:50 AM

sometime around 10:00
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The Ramseys returned home. John carried the sleeping JonBenét to her room, removed her shoes, then left Patsy to prepare her for bed.
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Patsy - "So I undressed her down to her little knit top that she had on and put some long underwear bottoms on her and tucked her in real tight and kissed her goodnight."
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Patsy also said the little prayer that JonBenét usually said with her:
Now I lay me down to sleep.
I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
If I should die before I wake,
I pray the Lord my soul to take
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John - "Burke was downstairs trying to put together a model that he’d got for Christmas and I couldn’t get him to go to bed. We were going to get up in the morning and leave to go to Michigan so I help him put it together so I could get him to go on to bed. So he went to bed and Patsy and I went to bed.
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*From warrant #1 - JonBenét was last seen by Patsy Ramsey in the residence at approximately 10:00 p.m. December 25th.
*From warrant #1 - The female child, JonBenét Ramsey, had last been seen by her father, John Ramsey, at approximately 2200 hours on December 25, 1996. This information had personally been told to Det. Arndt by John Ramsey. JonBenét had last been seen in her bed.
*From warrant #1 - The Ramsey's believed that the house was locked when they went to bed.

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