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  Info about what happened in there
Posted by: jameson245 - 05-24-2017, 04:07 PM - Forum: Grand Jury Indictments - Replies (3)

No testimony but impressions by witnesses

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  Pat Burke
Posted by: jameson245 - 05-24-2017, 03:51 PM - Forum: Quotes about the Ramseys - No Replies

"There was nothing bad about Patsy Ramsey.   She was smart, nice, good mom, good wife, good daughter, good sister and intelligent student.  She basically was a wonderful all-around decent human being."

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  From Hal Haddon
Posted by: jameson245 - 05-24-2017, 03:49 PM - Forum: Quotes about the Ramseys - Replies (1)

"After the first interview with John and Patsy, they did not fit as anything other than terribly emotionally injured parents.  The way their daughter was killed was consistent with parents who fly into rages and people who would be physically assaultive with their children.  John raised five children without physically disciplining them.  You have to, by necessity, make decisions on what your clients tell you, and your instincts.  I've been wrong on both sides of the question before.  I always reevaluate my clients constantly.  My very strong first impression is that these are not the kind of people who would hurt their child; certainly not in the ways she was savaged.  That faith in them has not wavered."

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  From Bryan Morgan
Posted by: jameson245 - 05-24-2017, 03:44 PM - Forum: Quotes about the Ramseys - No Replies

John's attorney

"After two days with john Ramsey, I knew he could not possibly have done what they say happened to this child.  I believed this with every instinct I had."


(He never moved in that position.)

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  GREAT Steve Thomas quote
Posted by: jameson245 - 05-24-2017, 03:09 PM - Forum: John Ramsey - biography - No Replies

"It seems the theme that is being portrayed is John and Patsy were ideal, Christian people.  It has been difficult at best during this investigation to uncover ANYONE that can offer any other perspective on the Ramseys."

Boulder Police records (from Ollie Gray's files)

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  Not picking a side
Posted by: jameson245 - 05-24-2017, 03:03 PM - Forum: We Have Your Daughter - Replies (5)

Paula is pretty proud of herself for not picking a side.  I think she should be ashamed for not standing up for what she believes - - EITHER WAY!

Take this paragraph, for example, found on page 289.

"Yet it did not appear at the time that the dirt on the window sill at the center window had been disturbed.  That finding casts doubts on the intruder theory.  Or does it?  Given the quality of the photographs taken by the BPD of the windows in question, some say it is difficult to ascertain whether or not the dirt had been disturbed and therefore impossible to conclude whether anyone had gone into or out of that window based on those photos."


Anyone know anything about double speak?  This is it, folks.

First, while I definitely see signs of a disturbance at that window CLEARLY in the photos, I will admit there is no way to be sure that was a point of entry or exit.


The quality of the images is not the problem.  We see the disturbance, the packaging popcorn, the grass caught under the grate, the lack of that huge spider web so prominent in the CBS program.

Larry Schiller once told me he wanted to stay in the middle, straddle the fence.  That way he can't really lose.

Paula clearly did the same.

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  BORG Theories
Posted by: jameson245 - 05-24-2017, 02:55 PM - Forum: BORG theories and BORG people of note - Replies (2)

None of these ever resulted in any evidence being found to support them, but it should be noted what the theories were.

John did it.  He had been sexually abusing her and she was going to tell so.... 

John did it because there was no porn on his computers - - but the posters know he was into that kind of thing.  He HAD traveled to the Netherlands, after all.

Patsy did it.  She caught John molesting JonBenet and took a swing and......     then John and Patsy worked together to cover the whole thing because they needed to save the family.....  and they stayed together until death did them part.

Patsy did it because the dry bed was wet.

Patsy did it because she was about to turn 40.


Patsy did it because she was a very clever psychopath for just a few hours.

Patsy did it because ....   anything you can imagine was used against her by BORG so feel free to ad lib here.  She was like Ma Brady's mother and SHE could be a witch.  She was like Jeff Shapiro's mother and SHE was a Romper Room Lady.  She was like JMK's mother and SHE tried to kill JMK!

Burke did it because JonBenét was snitching a piece of his pineapple at 1 am.  While on some drug that would make that pineapple instantly appear on the other side of her stomach.

The theories are endless, but there is no evidence to support any of them.

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  GET THAT DOG'S DNA!!!
Posted by: jameson245 - 05-24-2017, 02:40 PM - Forum: DNA - more technical discussions - No Replies

In 2014, there was a suggestion that all dogs in Boulder who were licensed might be required to have a DNA test  (I would assume at the owner's expense.)  That way, if someone did not pick up after their dog, the feces might be analyzed so the nasty owner might be held responsible for the doggie doo doo left behind.

Seriously? 

They have hesitated to test evidence in rape and murder cases because of budgetary limits, but the City Council actually considered testing on dog droppings?

Strange but true

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  Merilee Burt
Posted by: jameson245 - 05-23-2017, 06:12 PM - Forum: Colorado crimes - Replies (1)

Cold Case: Arapahoe County cheerleader disappears on walk home
By Kirk Mitchell
The Denver Post
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It was a tragic mix up.
Goddard Junior High School cheerleader Marilee Burt was just trying to get home following a basketball game in 1970.
It was at a time when there were no cellular phones to text a message to her mom or a close friend.
The 15-year-old girl had walked to her friend’s house and forgot to tell her mother in a phone message that she wasn’t at the school.
[Image: Marilee-Burt-photo-courtesy-Colorado-Bur...ation2.jpg]Marilee Burt, photo courtesy Colorado Bureau of Investigation
As her mom drove to the school to pick up her daughter, her daughter decided to walk to her home at 30 Wedge Way in Columbine Valley in her green uniform with a G emblazoned on the front.
It wasn’t that far.
At about 6:50 p.m. on Feb. 26, 1970 Marilee’s 16-year-old brother Raymond Burt was driving along a deserted stretch of road bordered by tall trees on both sides.
He saw a girl in pony tails walking along Middlefield Road.
He didn’t recognize her because Marilee didn’t normally wear pony tails.
He didn’t see her face in the dark.
After driving down the road a while, he looked in his rear-view mirror.
A dark, two-tone pickup truck stopped beside the girl.
His sister never made it home.
Forty-five years later, the high-profile abduction/rape/murder of a member of the Burt automotive family has never been solved.
The next day highway workers found her nude body under a bridge in a shallow creek in Deer Creek Canyon in Jefferson County. It was found where it was dropped, 6 miles southwest of her home where she lived with her mother.

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  What BORG claims to know as FACT
Posted by: jameson245 - 05-23-2017, 04:43 PM - Forum: Questions FOR Borg - No Replies

First, let me assure you Burke's grand jury testimony has not been made public.  Some may know what he said in there but when I see BORG claiming to know something was said when I know that is not true - - it makes it hard to take that person serious and makes me feel bad that newbies to the discussion believe their lies.

So on a BORG site, this was posted:
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Deborah Cassidy Oh he said to the grand jury that ..and I quote .. "sounds like me "..




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Deborah Cassidy Yip he said to the grand jury when they played the call to him. Yeah that sounds like me. Esther I'm sure it was dateline episode they show the documents for a min and the host said it il need to re watch it again but yeah for sure he testified that sounds like me

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