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  Polly Klaas
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-18-2017, 05:36 PM - Forum: OTHER children taken from their beds - No Replies

TAKEN NOT FROM HER BED, BUT FROM HER BEDROOM  with witnesses, we all remember Polly Klaas.




On October 1, 1993, Polly Klaas and two friends were having a slumber party. Late in the evening, Richard Allen Davis entered their bedroom, carrying a knife. He tied both friends up, pulled pillowcases over their heads and told them to count to 1,000. He then kidnapped the scared Klaas.[2]
Over the next two months, about 4,000 people helped search for Klaas.[3] TV shows such as 20/20 and America's Most Wanted covered the kidnapping. An APB (all-points bulletin) with the suspect information was broadcast within 30 minutes of the kidnapping. The broadcast however, only went out over Sonoma County Sheriff's Channel 1.
In a rural area of Santa Rosa, about 20 miles north of Petaluma, a babysitter returning home noted a suspicious vehicle stuck in a ditch on her employer's private driveway. She phoned the property owner, who decided to leave with her daughter. As she drove down the long driveway to Pythian Road, the owner passed the suspect. She called 911 when she got to a service station and two deputies were dispatched on the call. The deputies did not know of the kidnapping or the suspect's description, due to Sonoma Valley units being on Channel 3. The deputies ran the suspect's driver's license number and car plate number, but they came back with no wants or warrants. The deputies tried to convince the property owner to perform a citizen's arrest for trespassing. Under California law, a citizen must make an arrest for this type of misdemeanor. The property owner would have had to go to the car with the deputies and say "I arrest you." The deputies then would have taken him into custody. The property owner refused.
The deputies called for a tow truck to get the suspect's car out of the ditch. They searched it thoroughly before the arrival of the tow truck and did not find evidence of anyone else in the car. The only possible violation was an open container of beer, but the suspect was not driving at the time of the deputies' contact and mere possession of an open container was not illegal. Before the suspect was allowed to leave, he was instructed to pour out the beer and the deputies filled out an FI (Field Interrogation) card with his information and the FI card was filed. It showed that Davis was the person with the Ford Pinto that night.
Since the events of October 1, the sheriff's radio system has been upgraded and APBs are now broadcast on all channels through a centralized 911 dispatch system.
On November 28, 1993, the property owner was inspecting her property after loggers had partially cleared the property of trees. She discovered items that made her think they might have matched those used in the kidnapping. She called the sheriff's department to report her discovery and deputies and crime scene investigators were dispatched. One of the items found, a torn pair of ballet leggings, was matched by the FBI Crime Laboratory to the other part of the leggings that were taken as evidence on the night of the kidnapping. A review of calls in the area the day of the kidnapping turned up the contact with Davis. The suspect was only identified because both deputies had filled out and filed the FI card. Once the identity of Davis was revealed, his palm print at the scene of the kidnapping was also traced to him. Authorities were unable to match the partial print earlier due to the poor quality of the print.
The Sonoma County Sheriff's Department, in cooperation with Petaluma Police and the FBI, launched a search of the property and the Pythian Road area during a heavy rainstorm. The first two days of the search were kept as low key as possible, since the suspect was under surveillance at an Indian rancheria near Ukiah, California. When nothing was found during the initial search and the surveillance of Davis also produced no results, the decision was made to arrest him for the kidnapping of Klaas.
While Davis was being interrogated by Petaluma PD and the FBI, a massive search was launched on Friday, December 3. The Sonoma County Sheriff's Department was assisted by over 500 search team members from 24 agencies, coming from as far away as Kern County, California and Washoe County, Nevada. The mutual aid effort was coordinated by the California State Office of Emergency Services (now known as the California Governor's Office of Emergency Services), FBI Crime Scene teams and numerous other state and federal agencies. The search remains today as one of the largest ever conducted in California. The search continued through Saturday, December 4. The search effort produced other items of evidence, but did not produce any evidence of human remains. The search was planned to continue on Sunday, December 5, but on the evening of December 4, Davis confessed to kidnapping and murdering Klaas and led investigators to her body.[4] He had buried her in a shallow grave just off Highway 101, about a mile south of the city limits of Cloverdale, California. The grave site is about 20 air miles and about 30 road miles from the search site.
Although Davis admitted to strangling Klaas to death, he refused to give investigators a timeline of the events from October 1. Investigators thought he was fearful that both people who passed him would call the sheriff's department. It is believed that he killed her before the arrival of deputies and hid her body in the thick brush on the hillside above where his car was stuck. He then waited for an undetermined period of time after being escorted back to Highway 12, about 1.5 miles from where his car was stuck and drove back up to retrieve her body. He was reportedly out of breath, sweating profusely (despite being a cool night) and had twigs and leaves in his hair when contacted by deputies. It is also believed that he had chosen the grave site in advance, since it would not have been discovered by a casual observer. The grave site area would be directly visible from Highway 101, but not the grave itself. He had to drive from the Indian Rancheria in Ukiah once a week to meet with his parole officer and he would have seen any police activity in the area.

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  Took her, raped her, AND RETURNED HER
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-18-2017, 05:27 PM - Forum: OTHER children taken from their beds - No Replies

GIRL, 6 RAPED IN BOG; Child taken from her bed in sickening attack.

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Byline: By JIMMY CUNNINGHAM

THE six-year-old girl taken from her bed and raped was attacked in a bog, the Irish Daily Mirror has learned.

A sick attacker snatched the child from her sleep and brought her to the waste ground. A 26-year-old has been arrested and further evidence to support a rape charge is being assembled.'

The victim, a Traveller, was originally treated at University College Hospital in Galway and then at Our Lady's Hospital for Sick Children in Crumlin, Dublin. Specialist surgeons had to operate on her due to the injuries.

Gardai spent two days forensically examining the bog where the attack took place in the West on May 10.

Officers believe the girl was raped some time between midnight and the early hours of the morning.

Sources described it as the worst case they ever encountered involving a child.

The alleged attacker appeared before court last week on a different charge and is due to appear again next month.

He has not yet been formally charged with the rape of the child and is being held on remand at Castlerea Prison, Co Roscommon.

The Irish Mirror has learned that prisoners in the jail have vowed to kill the suspect - also a Traveller - after his identity became known among inmates.

A source said: "His name has gone around the jail like wildfire.

"Some of the toughest criminals in Ireland have vowed to get him." It is understood the victim and her alleged attacker lived close to one another. Family and friends are now worried for the girl's mental well-being.

She was lying in bed when her attacker crept into her room and lured her away. She was brought to an isolated bog and brutally raped before being tucked back into her bed.

The child has spoken to specialist officers and identified a suspect. The rape suspect was arrested within two days of the incident and charged.

Gardai believe the book of evidence will be completed within three weeks.

2006 - Ireland - THE SICKOS ARE EVERYWHERE

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  2017 - 6 year old escaped
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-18-2017, 05:22 PM - Forum: OTHER children taken from their beds - No Replies

From Australia  October 2017

A MANHUNT is under way for an intruder who broke into a Queensland home and tried to snatch a sleeping six-year-old girl from her bed.
Police said the man punched the girl in the face when she screamed to alert her parents.
The man climbed the fence of her home in Loganlea, south of Brisbane, at about 5am on Monday and unlocked the back entrance by reaching through a dog door.
He made his way past her sleeping parents and a relative to her upstairs bedroom and, after scooping her from her bed, almost left the home with the child sleeping in his arms.
“She just thought it was one of her parents moving her,” Detective Senior Sergeant Grant Ralston told reporters at Logan police station.
“It wasn’t until she entered the downstairs area that she realised it wasn’t.”
The man told the girl to keep quiet and covered her mouth but she broke free from his grasp and screamed.
“The offender has cowardly assaulted the child by punching her,” Det Sen Sgt Ralston said.
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Detective Senior Sergeant Grant Ralston addresses reporters about the attempted kidnap of a six-year-old girl in Loganlea. Picture: AAPImage/Steve PohlnerSource:News Corp Australia
Her parents were woken by the commotion and her father confronted the child snatcher.


He managed to escape and was last seen riding away on a BMX bike.
Det Sen Sgt Ralston said the man had first been seen in the area about 90 minutes before the attempted kidnapping.
“It does appear opportunistic,” he said.
He urged people to be vigilant about home security.
“Please lock your homes. Be safe, be secure,” he said. “This person’s obviously up to no good.”
Investigations continue and detectives are questioning the girl and her parents.
The incident is being investigated by detectives from the Logan Child Protection and Investigation Unit (CPIU)
The suspect is described as having a dark complexion, aged in his early 20s, wearing long pants, a charcoal hoodie and last seen riding a BMX bike.
Anyone with information was urged to call CrimeStoppers on 1800 333 000.

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  from _PEOPLE
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-18-2017, 05:14 PM - Forum: John Ramsey - biography - No Replies

7 . "More from People online"
Posted by SpiritRain on Jan-23-00 at 07:51 AM (EST)

Quote:http://www.pathfinder.com/people/sp/rams...006_3.html
October 6, 1997
1 | 2 | 3 | 4
In '80, Patsy (left) congratulated sis Pam on becoming a fellow Miss West Virginia
With broad strokes and a brilliant palette, Patsy's allies paint her as kinetic and magnetic, but for all his own achievements, her husband seems scarcely to cast a shadow. Most who know John Ramsey contend he's a modest and taciturn sort who tends to his business and spends leisure hours flying radio-controlled airplanes with Burke or sailing his 34-foot sloop, Miss America. Before his move to Boulder, he drove around Atlanta in a 15-year-old Chevy pickup. Says his brother Jeff: "He's not boastful." (Patsy, it seems, is more forthright. In her 1996 annual Christmas letter, she reported that Access Graphics had reached "its one-billion $$ mark in sales.") Says longtime friend and colleague Jim Marino: "I never saw him get mad. I never heard him cuss. I never saw him raise a hand to anybody."
Born in Omaha to James Ramsey, a decorated World War II pilot, and his homemaker wife, Mary Jane, John Bennett Ramsey was 13 when the family moved to Okemos, Mich., a rural suburb of Lansing, where his father served as director of Michigan's Aeronautics Commission. "We were a real Leave It to Beaver kind of family," says Jeff. At Okemos High School, John ran cross-country. It was a classic '50s milieu: bowling, movies and school dances. "John was very friendly," says retired Navy Capt. John Shick, a high school running teammate and later Ramsey's fraternity brother at Michigan State University. "I remember him as a person who didn't get excited." A quote under Ramsey's yearbook photo ("Some say he's quiet -- others doubt it") hints that even then, people didn't quite know what to make of his reserve.
Enrolling at Michigan State in 1961, Ramsey joined Theta Chi fraternity and met Lucinda Lou Pasch, an elementary education major. "She was a short, pretty brunette," says Shick, "and quiet." On July 16, 1966, after Ramsey graduated with a degree in electrical engineering, the couple married, then settled in East Lansing. Ramsey spent a couple of years in the Navy's engineering corps, some of it at Subic Bay in the Philippines, then earned a master's degree from Michigan State and settled in Atlanta.
The couple had three children -- Elizabeth, Melinda and John Andrew -- but their union foundered, and they divorced in 1978. The next year John started a small computer company. JimMarino worked for him, and in the evenings the two single men "played around," as Marino puts it. "We would go to bars and meet women," he says, adding that after Ramsey was engaged to Patsy, "I never saw him mess around."
About the time the Ramseys wed, John started Microsouth, a software distributor, which he ran from the basement of their suburban Atlanta home. (Patsy answered the phone.) He soon launched a second company, which marketed computer accessories, including printers, but the venture faltered. "Patsy had her father come down and basically save the company," Marino says of Don Paugh. The two companies ultimately merged into Access Graphics, where Paugh is now vice president of operations. As business took off in the 1980s, Patsy immersed herself in volunteer work for the local garden club, a tree festival and a children's hospital, among other charities -- and in perfecting their home. Ex-neighbor and longtime friend Vesta Taylor, 75, recalls that in the span of a week Patsy had her living room painted five times, in five varying shades. "She'd call me over at different times of the day, when the sun was coming in in a particular way," Taylor says, "and say, `Vesta, what do you think?' "
Thriving, the couple started a family. Son Burke was born in 1987, followed in 1990 by JonBenét. The next year John relocated his business to Boulder and moved the family to a 15-room faux Tudor home near the University of Colorado. Here, too, Patsy indulged her inner Bob Vila. "Friends said you got lost [in the house] because of the way she added on," says Taylor. "They said John couldn't find the bedroom. It was in the attic."
In Boulder the Ramsey fairy tale would begin to unravel. On Jan. 8, 1992, John's older daughter, Elizabeth, died from injuries suffered in an auto accident near Chicago. She was riding with her boyfriend Matthew Derrington, who was also killed, when his BMW collided with a van. "She was sweet and gentle, just like her daddy," says Shirley Brady, Burke's ex-nanny. Devastated, John Ramsey "became more introverted" after she died, according to Marino. "Work became his pacifier, his distractor."
In 1992, John's father died...

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  from _PEOPLE
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-18-2017, 05:14 PM - Forum: John Ramsey - biography - No Replies

7 . "More from People online"
Posted by SpiritRain on Jan-23-00 at 07:51 AM (EST)

Quote:http://www.pathfinder.com/people/sp/rams...006_3.html
October 6, 1997
1 | 2 | 3 | 4
In '80, Patsy (left) congratulated sis Pam on becoming a fellow Miss West Virginia
With broad strokes and a brilliant palette, Patsy's allies paint her as kinetic and magnetic, but for all his own achievements, her husband seems scarcely to cast a shadow. Most who know John Ramsey contend he's a modest and taciturn sort who tends to his business and spends leisure hours flying radio-controlled airplanes with Burke or sailing his 34-foot sloop, Miss America. Before his move to Boulder, he drove around Atlanta in a 15-year-old Chevy pickup. Says his brother Jeff: "He's not boastful." (Patsy, it seems, is more forthright. In her 1996 annual Christmas letter, she reported that Access Graphics had reached "its one-billion $$ mark in sales.") Says longtime friend and colleague Jim Marino: "I never saw him get mad. I never heard him cuss. I never saw him raise a hand to anybody."
Born in Omaha to James Ramsey, a decorated World War II pilot, and his homemaker wife, Mary Jane, John Bennett Ramsey was 13 when the family moved to Okemos, Mich., a rural suburb of Lansing, where his father served as director of Michigan's Aeronautics Commission. "We were a real Leave It to Beaver kind of family," says Jeff. At Okemos High School, John ran cross-country. It was a classic '50s milieu: bowling, movies and school dances. "John was very friendly," says retired Navy Capt. John Shick, a high school running teammate and later Ramsey's fraternity brother at Michigan State University. "I remember him as a person who didn't get excited." A quote under Ramsey's yearbook photo ("Some say he's quiet -- others doubt it") hints that even then, people didn't quite know what to make of his reserve.
Enrolling at Michigan State in 1961, Ramsey joined Theta Chi fraternity and met Lucinda Lou Pasch, an elementary education major. "She was a short, pretty brunette," says Shick, "and quiet." On July 16, 1966, after Ramsey graduated with a degree in electrical engineering, the couple married, then settled in East Lansing. Ramsey spent a couple of years in the Navy's engineering corps, some of it at Subic Bay in the Philippines, then earned a master's degree from Michigan State and settled in Atlanta.
The couple had three children -- Elizabeth, Melinda and John Andrew -- but their union foundered, and they divorced in 1978. The next year John started a small computer company. JimMarino worked for him, and in the evenings the two single men "played around," as Marino puts it. "We would go to bars and meet women," he says, adding that after Ramsey was engaged to Patsy, "I never saw him mess around."
About the time the Ramseys wed, John started Microsouth, a software distributor, which he ran from the basement of their suburban Atlanta home. (Patsy answered the phone.) He soon launched a second company, which marketed computer accessories, including printers, but the venture faltered. "Patsy had her father come down and basically save the company," Marino says of Don Paugh. The two companies ultimately merged into Access Graphics, where Paugh is now vice president of operations. As business took off in the 1980s, Patsy immersed herself in volunteer work for the local garden club, a tree festival and a children's hospital, among other charities -- and in perfecting their home. Ex-neighbor and longtime friend Vesta Taylor, 75, recalls that in the span of a week Patsy had her living room painted five times, in five varying shades. "She'd call me over at different times of the day, when the sun was coming in in a particular way," Taylor says, "and say, `Vesta, what do you think?' "
Thriving, the couple started a family. Son Burke was born in 1987, followed in 1990 by JonBenét. The next year John relocated his business to Boulder and moved the family to a 15-room faux Tudor home near the University of Colorado. Here, too, Patsy indulged her inner Bob Vila. "Friends said you got lost [in the house] because of the way she added on," says Taylor. "They said John couldn't find the bedroom. It was in the attic."
In Boulder the Ramsey fairy tale would begin to unravel. On Jan. 8, 1992, John's older daughter, Elizabeth, died from injuries suffered in an auto accident near Chicago. She was riding with her boyfriend Matthew Derrington, who was also killed, when his BMW collided with a van. "She was sweet and gentle, just like her daddy," says Shirley Brady, Burke's ex-nanny. Devastated, John Ramsey "became more introverted" after she died, according to Marino. "Work became his pacifier, his distractor."
In 1992, John's father died...

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  other bio info and old discussion from old Webbsleuths forum
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-18-2017, 05:10 PM - Forum: John Ramsey - biography - No Replies

"John's Bio"
Posted by SpiritRain on Jan-22-00 at 06:15 AM (EST)

Quote: This is from:
http://www.insidedenver.com/extra/ramsey/0105queen.htm
John Ramsey was born in Nebraska two years after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. His father, James Dudley Ramsey, was a highly decorated transport pilot in World War II who eventually became director of the Michigan Aeronautics Commission.
He instilled a lifelong love of flying in his eldest son, a quiet, steady youth whose controlled exterior belied his willingness to take risks and an uncanny ability to see beyond the obvious.
In 1957 -- the year Patsy Paugh was born -- 14-year-old John Ramsey moved to Okemos, a tiny town near Lansing, Mich., where he ran cross country, played in the band and chaired the Christmas dance his senior year.
The caption beneath Ramsey's photo in his high school yearbook reads: "Some say he's quiet -- others doubt it.''
"Everything he did demonstrated character,'' said Nancy Turner Lawton, a former classmate who dated Ramsey for several years. "He was just an upright person who had a desire to do things right.
"He had a savings account. He had a plan for his life. I can't tell you how responsible he was at 18.''
John Ramsey followed the same straight and narrow path at Michigan State University in Lansing, where he became president of his fraternity, joined ROTC and met his future wife, Lucinda Lou Pasch.
He became a military pilot, like his father, spending two years in the Phillipines; he earned a master's degree in marketing in 1971, and soon after, accepted a sales job in Atlanta with a California-based electronics engineering company.
But when the company urged him to come West, he refused. It wasn't the obvious decision, one he later credited with making his career.
"That was the turning point for me, back in 1976,'' Ramsey told Computer Reseller News.
It also marked a personal turning point. He and Cindy, now the parents of three children, Elizabeth, Melinda and John, divorced. On Nov. 15, 1980, he married 23-year-old Patricia Ann Paugh at the Peachtree Presbyterian Church in Atlanta.
By that time, Ramsey had formed his own company, Advanced Products Group, selling computer terminals, printers and other items from an office in his basement of his home. Despite the company's high tech mission, neighbor Joe Saportas recalled that Ramsey drove a battered pickup and enjoyed doing construction projects around the house.
Ramsey saw his future in presentation graphics. In 1988, he merged his company with two others to form Access Graphics, based in Boulder. For more than a year, he commuted from Atlanta for his job as vice president of sales. In 1991, Lockheed Martin acquired Access, and Ramsey became Access president.
In five years, he shepherded the company from a $150 million in sales to more than $1 billion, tripling its work force to 560 employees worldwide.
"I would describe him as a visionary leader,'' said Access spokeswoman Laurie Wagner. "He's very good at looking ahead toward where we need to be.''
With his promotion came the family move to Boulder, and a $750,000 brick Tudor in a quiet, upscale neighborhood on 15th Street.
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What started me on this was after reading the JonBenet article on Mousey's Susan Smith thread, (http://va.crimelibrary.com/ramsey/ramseymain.htm)I learned that John had been voted businessman of the year. At the time of the murder, "John had just been voted local "businessman of the year.""

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  other bio info and old discussion from old Webbsleuths forum
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-18-2017, 05:10 PM - Forum: John Ramsey - biography - No Replies

"John's Bio"
Posted by SpiritRain on Jan-22-00 at 06:15 AM (EST)

Quote: This is from:
http://www.insidedenver.com/extra/ramsey/0105queen.htm
John Ramsey was born in Nebraska two years after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. His father, James Dudley Ramsey, was a highly decorated transport pilot in World War II who eventually became director of the Michigan Aeronautics Commission.
He instilled a lifelong love of flying in his eldest son, a quiet, steady youth whose controlled exterior belied his willingness to take risks and an uncanny ability to see beyond the obvious.
In 1957 -- the year Patsy Paugh was born -- 14-year-old John Ramsey moved to Okemos, a tiny town near Lansing, Mich., where he ran cross country, played in the band and chaired the Christmas dance his senior year.
The caption beneath Ramsey's photo in his high school yearbook reads: "Some say he's quiet -- others doubt it.''
"Everything he did demonstrated character,'' said Nancy Turner Lawton, a former classmate who dated Ramsey for several years. "He was just an upright person who had a desire to do things right.
"He had a savings account. He had a plan for his life. I can't tell you how responsible he was at 18.''
John Ramsey followed the same straight and narrow path at Michigan State University in Lansing, where he became president of his fraternity, joined ROTC and met his future wife, Lucinda Lou Pasch.
He became a military pilot, like his father, spending two years in the Phillipines; he earned a master's degree in marketing in 1971, and soon after, accepted a sales job in Atlanta with a California-based electronics engineering company.
But when the company urged him to come West, he refused. It wasn't the obvious decision, one he later credited with making his career.
"That was the turning point for me, back in 1976,'' Ramsey told Computer Reseller News.
It also marked a personal turning point. He and Cindy, now the parents of three children, Elizabeth, Melinda and John, divorced. On Nov. 15, 1980, he married 23-year-old Patricia Ann Paugh at the Peachtree Presbyterian Church in Atlanta.
By that time, Ramsey had formed his own company, Advanced Products Group, selling computer terminals, printers and other items from an office in his basement of his home. Despite the company's high tech mission, neighbor Joe Saportas recalled that Ramsey drove a battered pickup and enjoyed doing construction projects around the house.
Ramsey saw his future in presentation graphics. In 1988, he merged his company with two others to form Access Graphics, based in Boulder. For more than a year, he commuted from Atlanta for his job as vice president of sales. In 1991, Lockheed Martin acquired Access, and Ramsey became Access president.
In five years, he shepherded the company from a $150 million in sales to more than $1 billion, tripling its work force to 560 employees worldwide.
"I would describe him as a visionary leader,'' said Access spokeswoman Laurie Wagner. "He's very good at looking ahead toward where we need to be.''
With his promotion came the family move to Boulder, and a $750,000 brick Tudor in a quiet, upscale neighborhood on 15th Street.
***********************************************************************
What started me on this was after reading the JonBenet article on Mousey's Susan Smith thread, (http://va.crimelibrary.com/ramsey/ramseymain.htm)I learned that John had been voted businessman of the year. At the time of the murder, "John had just been voted local "businessman of the year.""

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  a quote
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-18-2017, 04:40 PM - Forum: The Cases That Haunt Us: From Jack the Ripper to JonBenét Ramsey - No Replies

JD: I would like to feel comfortable that the case would one day be resolved. However, as many of you know, there was a major contamination at the crime scene when local law enforcement allowed people to freely roam through the house. I will, however, take the position that has been a somewhat controversial position, and that is that I do not believe that the family, John or Patsy or the son, was involved in the death of JonBenét. It is difficult to comprehend that John and Patsy Ramsey -- on Christmas Day, a happy time of the year, planning to go to Michigan the following morning, with their car packed with gifts, out with friends for the evening -- would suddenly return home and kill their daughter, especially in the way that she was killed, i.e., blunt-force trauma to the head, which causes an eight-inch fracture in her skull, coupled with a ligature tightly bound around her neck, as well as sexual assault.


This is from a question and answer Douglas did online - I forget where.

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  Babysitter/ nannies
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 10-18-2017, 04:23 PM - Forum: Housekeepers, workers in the house - No Replies

There was a babysitter/nanny  who was let go after Burke reported being abused/hit by the Nanny.

Im not aware of her name or any information regarding her besides this. Anyone know of anything else to provide?

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  Lynn Wilcox
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-18-2017, 03:48 PM - Forum: Housekeepers, workers in the house - No Replies

Reportedly, a housekeeper at Ramsey house, she lost her job after being caught nosing around in some personal papers.  Detective Harmer interviewed her briefly.

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