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  Ollie Gray - RIP
Posted by: jameson245 - 04-06-2017, 07:54 PM - Forum: What is in the news - staying up to date - Replies (6)

       

My dear friend, Ollie Gray, has moved onto his next great adventure.

My heart is heavy and I am at a loss for words.

He will be greatly missed and I can only say I was enriched by knowing him.  He was a truly good and gentle man.

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  Police chief speaks out on JonBenet Ramsey case, regrets it
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 04-06-2017, 07:45 PM - Forum: What is in the news - staying up to date - Replies (1)

By STEPHANIE SLIFER CBS NEWS February 25, 2015, 2:37 PM
Police chief speaks out on JonBenet Ramsey case, regrets it


BOULDER, Colo - Former Boulder, Colorado police Chief Mark Beckner participated in an "Ask Me Anything" session on the social-networking/news site Reddit where he spoke about the JonBenet Ramsey case, but now the former law enforcement head says he regrets it and that he didn't realize his comments would filter out to the rest of the world.
"I talked to the organizer and my impression was that this was a members-only type group that talked about unsolved mysteries all around the world," Becker said in an interview published Tuesday in the Boulder Daily Camera. The Q&A took place Saturday.


"I didn't know it was an open-architecture type thing, or I wouldn't have done it," he added. "It was a misunderstanding and naivete on my part."


The 59-year-old Beckner, who retired in April 2014 and who has mostly remained tight-lipped when it comes to discussing the investigation into the murder of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey, spoke relatively freely during his online Q&A and said and he believes no one will ever be convicted in the pageant girl's long-unsolved 1996 murder.
Beckner also commented on authorities' handling of the case, saying, "I wish we would have done a much better job of securing and controlling the crime scene on day one. We also should have separated John and Patsy [JonBenet's parents] and gotten full statements from them that day. Letting them go was a big mistake, as they soon lawyered up and we did not get to formally interview them again until May of 1997, five months after their daughter was murdered."
He said the police department was short staffed on the day of the murder due to the Christmas holiday and said there was confusion at the scene because of lack of law enforcement personnel. He also acknowledged the Ramseys' "position" in the community could have influenced the initial handling the case.


Beckner also criticized the Boulder District Attorney's office, then led by Alex Hunter, for getting too involved in the case.
Six-year-old JonBenet was found bludgeoned and strangled December 26, 1996 in the basement of her Boulder, Colo. home several hours after her mother, Patsy Ramsey, called 911 to say her daughter was missing and that a ransom note had been left behind.


No charges have ever been filed in the case, despite a grand jury having voted in 1999 to charge the child's parents in connection with her death. At the time, D.A. Hunter declined to sign the indictment, saying there was insufficient evidence to prove the charges at trial. The grand jury's decision was not made public until 2013.


Both Patsy and John Ramsey have always maintained their innocence. Patsy Ramsey died in 2006 of cancer. In 2008, former Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy said that DNA evidence suggests the killer was a stranger, not a family member, and publicly exonerated the Ramseys.


During the Reddit Q&A, former police Chief Beckner said the Colorado Bureau of Investigation opined the DNA found on JonBenet's clothing was likely sweat or saliva, but that it's difficult to say for sure since it was such a small amount.
On whether there might have been an intruder on the night of the murder, Beckner said, "Most investigators do not believe there was a legitimate point of entry. It is unknown how an intruder may have gotten in."


When asked Tuesday whether he regretted anything he said on Reddit, Beckner told the Daily Camera that he tried to be honest and fair.


"I think the only thing I would emphasize is that the unknown DNA [from JonBenet's clothing] is very important. And I'm not involved any more, but that has got to be the focus of the investigation. In my opinion, at this point, that's your suspect."


Beckner, however, noted on Reddit that the case is "not actively being worked on."
But Kim Kobel, a spokesperson for the The Boulder Police Department, told 48 Hours' Crimesider on Wednesday that while the investigation is not active, it is still an open homicide investigation.
"We still do receive leads and we look into every single lead we receive," she said.
Kobel added that the Boulder Police Department was not aware ahead of time that the Reddit Q&A was going to take place and said they instead found out online via other news articles.
Current Boulder Police Chief Greg Testa told Crimesider Beckner has reached

 out to the department since the Reddit Q&A. Testa said he understands why Beckner participated in the online chat, saying it came to him through his current position as an online teacher at Norwich University in Vermont.
"Mark [Beckner] wouldn't have done anything to compromise the investigation," Testa said.

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  Danielle van Dam
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 04-06-2017, 04:30 PM - Forum: OTHER children taken from their beds - Replies (1)

Murder of Danielle van Dam


Danielle Nicole van Dam (September 22, 1994 – c. February 1, 2002)[3] was an American girl from the Sabre Springs neighborhood of San Diego, California, who disappeared from her bedroom during the night of February 1–2, 2002. Her body was found by searchers on February 27 in a remote area. Police suspected a neighbor, David Alan Westerfield, of the killing. He was arrested, tried, and convicted of kidnapping and first-degree murder. He was sentenced to death and is currently incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison.


The crime
On the evening of Friday, February 1, 2002, Danielle van Dam's mother Brenda and two girlfriends went out to a bar, Dad's, in Poway. Danielle's father Damon stayed at home to look after Danielle and her two brothers. Damon put Danielle to bed around 10:30 p.m., and she fell asleep. Damon also slept until his wife returned home at around 2:00 a.m. with four of her friends. Brenda noticed a light on the home’s security alarm system was flashing, and discovered that the side door to the garage was open. The six chatted for approximately half an hour then Brenda's friends went home. Damon and Brenda went to sleep believing that their daughter was sleeping in her room. About an hour later, Damon awoke and noticed that an alarm light was flashing. He found the sliding glass door leading to the back yard open, so he closed it. The next morning, Danielle was missing. The couple frantically searched their home, but could not find her. They called the police at 9:39 a.m.

Danielle became the subject of one of the largest search efforts in state history, with hundreds of volunteers searching deserts, highways and remote areas for weeks. The Laura Recovery Center assisted in organizing the search, and a Danielle Recovery Center was set up in a real estate office in Poway to coordinate the searching.[5] Finally, on February 27, two searchers found her nude, partially decomposed body near a trail in Dehesa, California, an unincorporated town east of San Diego. Some searchers had decided to search the Dehesa Road area, near the trail, after detectives discovered traces of Danielle's blood in David Westerfield's motor home, because Dehesa Road was a possible route Westerfield could have taken to get to the desert.[5] Because of the condition of the body, the coroner was unable to determine a cause of death or whether she was sexually assaulted, and had to use dental records to confirm her identity.

David Westerfield 
Law enforcement officials interviewed the van Dams' neighbors the Saturday morning of Danielle's disappearance, and discovered that one neighbor, David Westerfield, was not at home. Westerfield (born February 25, 1952) was self-employed as an engineer, 49 years old at the time, and held several patents for medical devices. He had no criminal record at the time, and was a divorced father of two college students. He lived two houses away from the van Dams, and owned a luxury motor home. About three days before Danielle's disappearance, Danielle and Brenda had sold Girl Scout cookies to Westerfield, who invited them into his home. Brenda asked to see his kitchen because she had noticed it was being remodeled when they had sold cookies to him the year before.

On Saturday morning, Westerfield fetched his motor home from another part of town, stocked it with supplies, and left home at 9:50, minutes after Brenda called 911 to report Danielle missing. Westerfield later told police that he had driven around the desert and the beach in his motor home, and had stayed at a beach campground: this was later confirmed by witnesses, cell phone records, gas receipts and credit card records. Westerfield said he had intended to go to the desert, but realized he had forgotten his wallet, so he drove instead to the campground at Silver Strand State Beach. He paid in advance for a two-night stay. However, he decided the weather was too cold, so he returned home to look for his wallet, after which he went to the desertA witness at Silver Strand later testified that he saw Westerfield pull out his wallet while at the campground. He drove to the desert, where he got stuck in the sand on Sunday morning about a quarter mile off the road and needed help from a tow truck to get free.

On his way home on Monday morning, a sleepy-looking and bare-footed Westerfield stopped at his regular dry cleaners and dropped off two comforters, two pillow covers, and a jacket that would later yield traces of Danielle's blood. When law enforcement first interviewed Westerfield, he did not mention going to the dry cleaners, although he detailed almost every other stop on his outing.

From Monday morning on, Westerfield became the prime suspect.  Law enforcement placed him under 24-hour surveillance on February 4,noting that he had given his RV a cleaning when he returned from his trip, although he maintained it was normal for him to do so. His motorhome, SUV, and other property was impounded for testing on February 5. 

Westerfield stated that he did not know where Danielle was, but said he had been at the same bar that Brenda had been to that Friday night, which Brenda confirmed
Arrest and trial

On February 22, police arrested Westerfield for Danielle's kidnapping after two small stains of her blood were found on his clothing and in his motor home. Danielle's partially decomposed body was found February 27. Westerfield pleaded not guilty, and went on trial on June 4, 2002. In pre-trial motions, Westerfield's lawyers moved to have his statements to police excluded, charging that he was unfairly interrogated for more than nine hours by detectives who ignored his repeated requests to call a lawyer, take a shower, eat, and sleep.[21] In the end, the two officers against whom the defense directed their complaint did not testify.

The forensic evidence presented by the prosecution included Danielle's blood stains on Westerfield's jacket and on the floor of his motor home, Danielle's fingerprints in the motor home, hairs from the van Dam family dog on Westerfield's motor home bed comforter, hairs consistent with Danielle's on the sheet of his bed, and matching acrylic fibers found on Danielle's body and in Westerfield's home, among other evidence.[22][23] One witness testified that she had left a side door in the garage unlocked, and prosecutor Jeff Dusek theorized that Westerfield might have entered this way; he emphasized, however, that the prosecution did not have the burden to demonstrate how the kidnapping was done, only that it was done.

During the trial, Westerfield's lawyers suggested that the police were in a rush to solve the case and declined to consider other suspects. They suggested that the child pornography found on Westerfield's computer was downloaded by Westerfield's son, Neal, who was 18 at the time of the murder. In testimony, Neal denied this.[24] Part of Westerfield's defense focused on the lifestyle of Danielle van Dam's parents, who they argued had an open marriage, were swingers, and smoked marijuana in their garage regularly. The defense suggested that because of this lifestyle, there might have been other people in the home that night.
To establish an alibi for Westerfield, the defense called three entomologists who testified that insects first colonized Danielle's body sometime in mid-February, long after Westerfield had been under police surveillance. The prosecution's entomologist testified that Danielle's body could have been colonized as early as February 2.
In closing arguments, Feldman argued that no evidence of Westerfield was found in the van Dam residence or at the body dump site, and that a foreign hair found under Danielle’s body was not his.[29][30][31] In rebuttal, Dusek argued that it is plausible for an intruder to enter a home without leaving trace evidence, especially if he is taking appropriate precautions. Conversely, Dusek argued, the nature and volume of Danielle's trace evidence in Westerfield's home and motor home, and on his jacket, allows no reasonable explanation other than guilt.

The trial lasted two months and concluded on August 8. On August 21, the jury found Westerfield guilty of first degree murder, kidnapping, and possession of child pornography.

During the penalty phase of the trial, Westerfield's 19-year-old niece testified that, when she was 7 years old, her uncle entered his daughter's bedroom, where the niece was spending the night with her parents while attending a party, and woke up to find him rubbing her teeth. She said she bit his finger as hard as she could, then went downstairs to tell her mother. Westerfield was questioned about the incident at the time by his sister-in-law, where he explained that he had entered the bedroom to check on the children, and was trying to comfort her. The incident was then forgotten
The penalty phase ended on September 16 when the jury rendered a verdict of death against Westerfield. In January 2003, Judge William Mudd sentenced Westerfield to death.
A
ftermath
Westerfield is currently incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison while his appeal is pending.[36] Because of the continuing 2006 moratorium on executions in California, and the July 2014 ruling on the unconstitutionality of the death penalty in California, it is not known when or if Westerfield will face execution.
The van Dams sued Westerfield, but the case was settled out of court. The van Dams were awarded $416,000 from several insurance companies who insured Westerfield's home, SUV, and motor home. The settlement also prevents Westerfield from ever profiting from his crime. 

When the trial was over, the media, quoting unnamed police sources, reported that Westerfield's lawyers were just minutes away from negotiating a plea bargain when a group of private citizen searchers organized by the Laura Recovery Center found Danielle's body. According to these reports, under the deal Westerfield would have taken police to the site where her body was located, in exchange for a sentence of life without parole.Both the prosecution and the defense declined to comment on these reports,  Many people, including Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly, expressed outrage at the revelation, claiming that Westerfield's attorneys misled the jury by proposing an "unknown kidnapper scenario" even though their client said he knew the location of the body; however, legal specialists pointed out that defense attorneys are obligated to mount a vigorous defense regardless of their own opinion of the client's guilt or innocence.


In the months following the end of the trial, audio tapes of Westerfield being interviewed were released to the media. During his first interview, he is heard to ask an officer to "leave your gun here for a few minutes" in a seeming suggestion that he would like to commit suicide.[42] In one police interview he tells investigators that he doesn't feel emotionally stable. In one interview he is told that he failed a polygraph test; Westerfield says he wants a retest and that he was not involved in Danielle's disappearance.

In late 2003, San Diego police received a letter from an outside party confessing to Danielle's murder. The author claimed to be James Selby, a man accused of various sex-related crimes in five states, including in the San Diego area.Both police and Dusek read the letter, and deemed it not credible; however, Dusek forwarded the letter to the office of Westerfield's attorney, Steven Feldman, who declined to comment.[46] Selby, who also claimed responsibility for the slaying of JonBenét Ramsey,[46] committed suicide while awaiting sentencing in Arizona on November 22, 2004.[45][47]
An episode from an animal forensic show on the US TV network Animal Planet was based on the belief that hairs consistent with Danielle’s dog, which were found in Westerfield’s laundry, in his RV, and on his comforter at the dry-cleaners, first got onto her pajamas when she cuddled with the dog, and then were carried on the pajamas to his house and RV in accordance with Locard's exchange principle.

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  Riley Fox
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 04-06-2017, 04:11 PM - Forum: OTHER children taken from their beds - No Replies

Justice at last for father accused of killing his daughter, 3, after sex offender admits to murder 



A convicted sex offender pleaded guilty today to the 2004 sexual assault and murder of a three-year-old suburban Chicago girl whose father was wrongly accused in the crime.

With the parents of Riley Fox sitting just a few feet away, Scott Eby said in a clear voice the word 'guilty' six times - ensuring he will spend the rest of his life behind bars. 

In exchange for the 39-year-old's plea, prosecutors agreed not to seek the death penalty. 

The courtroom was packed with dozens of friends and family of Riley, many wearing pins with a photograph of the girl nicknamed 'Rileybugs' on them. 

The gallery was silent as Eby entered his plea, ending a six-year ordeal in the highly-publicised case. 

But that composure disappeared when Assistant Will County State's Attorney Michael Fitzgerald described what Eby himself admitted to doing on June 6, 2004. 
In horrific details, Mr Fitzgerald told the judge how Eby, in a five-page letter, admitted he had been drinking and using cocaine that day - a combination that gave him the urge to break into Riley's Wilmington house and molest her. 
Eby said he put a bandanna over his face before entering the house, put his hand over Riley's mouth and put her in the trunk of his car. 

He described then driving to a nearby forest preserve, duct-taping her wrists and mouth and sexually assaulting her on the floor of a men's room. 

Eby told authorities he knew the girl could identify him and panicked, taking her to a nearby creek and holding her 'under the water by the shoulders until he couldn't feel her struggle anymore'.
Many in the courtroom openly wept, and one member of the gallery yelled 'Rot in hell' before leaving the courtroom.

Riley's father, Kevin Fox, who spent eight months in jail before he was exonerated by DNA evidence, was the first to take the witness stand and read a statement. 

He talked about sitting in a jail cell when he was a suspect, knowing prosecutors wanted him executed and that the real killer was free. 

He said: 'I would always wonder what you were doing with your freedom. If you were lying, watching TV or if you were picking your next victim.'

He said that once he left court he would force Eby from his mind, adding: 'After today you will no longer be a part of my memories of my daughter.'

Riley's mother Melissa spoke of the joys of watching her daughter and how she liked to sing, dance, tell jokes and catch butterflies. 

But, as her voice cracked, she also told Eby what he took when he held her daughter's head under water. 

She said: 'She would never have the opportunity to play with her friends, have sleepovers, get her drivers' license, go to homecoming or prom, go to college, get married or have a family of her own.'

Mrs Fox stared directly into Eby's eyes each time she looked up from her statement, and Eby was visibly moved by her words.

She added: 'I didn't get a chance to say goodbye or give her a last kiss or hug. Instead, I visit a headstone that I decorate for holidays and her birthday.'

Eby fought back tears when she said: 'It disgusts me that she is gone and you are still here.'

He spoke briefly, saying he didn't have any answers or know why he killed the little girl.
Reading from a prepared statement, he added: 'I wish I could explain.'

After the hearing, Eby's attorney Michael Renzi said his client always intended to plead guilty from the time he was charged in May. He said he didn't want to put the family through a trial. 
Prosecutors said Riley's parents agreed to the plea deal. 

'She would never have the opportunity to play with her friends, have sleepovers, get her drivers' license, go to homecoming or prom, go to college, get married or have a family of her own' 

Mrs Fox said in court: 'I'm opposed to you getting the death penalty and dying a quick, painless death.'
Kevin Fox had harsher words after the trial. He said: 'I hope he rots in hell.'

The plea comes nearly five months after Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow announced he'd charged Eby with first-degree murder and predatory criminal sexual assault of a child. 

Authorities were led to Eby from DNA evidence collected from the crime scene along with other clues, including a pair of Eby's shoes pulled from the water that had his name written in them. 

Mr Glasgow, who was not the prosecutor when Mr Fox was arrested, cleared the father after taking office. 
When he announced in May that Eby had been charged with murdering Riley, Mr Glasgow was careful to point out that any prosecutor would have been hard pressed not to file charges against Mr Fox after watching video of statements Mr Fox made to investigators during questioning. 

Mr Glasgow declined to say what Mr Fox told detectives, but he described the statements as 'significant'. 
The Foxes were awarded $12.2 million in damages after they accused Will County investigators of fabricating evidence. 
A federal appeals court in April upheld their claim that Mr Fox was falsely arrested but reduced the award to $8.6 million. 

Eby, who has served prison time for burglary and forgery, was an inmate at the medium security Lawrence Correctional Center in Sumner, serving time for a 2005 sexual assault conviction filed in connection with an attack on a relative. 
According to the Illinois Department of Corrections, he will be eligible for parole on that conviction in mid-2017.

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  Other garrote murders
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 04-06-2017, 03:58 PM - Forum: Cord ligature - Garrote - No Replies

Recently, I started researching about Garrotes.. the history... looking into murder cases where others were killed by a garrote.

I found a really interesting article about a  nurse murdered in 1979.

It was a cold case.

No fingerprints'

Local police NEVER investigated a murder like this one.

Sounds familiar...
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Lead “Dateline” correspondent Keith Morrison has told dozens of tales of murder, but even he hadn’t encountered grisly details like those of the brutal slaying of Torrance nurse Lynne Knight in 1979.

“Never have I encountered a garrote in a domestic crime, in a local crime that was committed in this way,” Morrison said in an interview Thursday. “It flummoxed everybody. They couldn’t figure it out. There were no fingerprints. It was pre-DNA. It drifted along for all those many years.”


The quest by a cold-case prosecutor and Torrance police detectives to solve the three-decades-old killing will be recounted tonightin a two-hour “Dateline” segment at 9 p.m. on NBC. In August, a jury convicted Knight’s former boyfriend, Douglas Bradford, of first-degree murder, despite his years of claiming he was sailing in the Alamitos Bay on Aug. 29, 1979, when someone slipped into Knight’s Anza Avenue home and mutilated her.


A homemade garrote built with wooden mop handles and picture-hanging wire lay hidden under her body. The device was built so strongly that it failed during the crime, slicing a gash so deep into Knight’s neck that she could breathe through it. Her killer extinguished her pig-like sounds for help by stabbing her in the leg, rupturing her femoral artery and ending her life.
Morrison said “Dateline” built its own garrote for the show.
“I’m holding it right now in my hands,” Morrison said, finishing up the production. “What occurs to you immediately — there is a lot of work that goes into it. You’ve got to cut the dowels, drill the holes, sand them down, carefully put the wire through, double it. Somebody put several hours effort into it, knowing they were going to use this weapon.”


The 28-year-old Canadian nurse hadn’t been in Torrance long. She moved to California to take a job at Little Company of Mary Hospital, working in the neonatal unit. She rented an apartment in a converted garage.
Bradford, an engineering student at Cal State Long Beach, met her while skiing. They dated for a few months. But the relationship ended when he wanted to be exclusive and she didn’t.
During his trial in July and August, witnesses recalled Bradford stalking her apartment, driving past it in his orange 240Z. One night he burst into the apartment and angrily threw a lamp at Knight because she was entertaining another man.


Although police had the garrote, and suspected Bradford committed the crime, detectives could not build enough evidence to prosecute him. Bradford claimed to be sailing at 10:30 that night and having to paddle in to the shore when the wind died.
The case went unsolved.
“I personally worked nine homicides as the lead or co-lead,” said retired Torrance police Capt. Emilio Paerels, who was called to assist at the murder scene with the lead investigator, Gary Hilton. “This was the only one that wasn’t solved. To me, this one was a bugaboo. But the problem is you know who it is. In your heart, you know you’ve identified the suspect, but you’ve gotten to a point where you know it is cold.”


In the early 2000s, Torrance police detectives reopened several unsolved cases, including Knight’s murder. Paerels, working with Deputy District Attorney John Lewin, reinterviewed the witnesses. Now retired Torrance Detective Jim Wallace visited Bradford’s mother at her house in Orange County. He noticed two facts that detectives at the beginning did not: Bradford’s mother was an artist who hung her paintings on the wall with metal wire. Some had hung there for decades.
The mother also used wooden dowels for security locks on her windows.


Tests revealed the wire was the same kind used in the garrote found at the murder scene. Bradford was arrested May 13, 2009. The wire played a central role in the trial.
Famed O.J. Simpson lawyer Robert Shapiro defended Bradford, who chose not to take the witness stand to testify. Shapiro told the jury that Bradford was innocent, and presented his sailing alibi. Lewin countered that with weather and sailing experts, who described how the wind patterns that night did not corroborate his story.
Jurors came back with a verdict Aug. 14, providing relief to Knight’s father, sister and other family members who had waited so long to hear the word “guilty.” Bradford was scheduled to be sentenced to 26 years to life in prison next week, but Shapiro on Thursday requested that the proceeding be postponed until December.


Morrison said he interviewed family members and retired detectives for the program, which fittingly is called “The Wire.” Morrison said he wished Bradford would have consented to an interview.
For “Dateline,” the Knight case had all the necessary elements for a good mystery, including the fact it became Wallace’s last case, and the last trial for Shapiro, “all getting together in the same courtroom where Shapiro assisted in the acquittal of O.J. Simpson.”
“It’s a very compelling program,” Morrison said. “I wound up, as sometimes one does in these cases, particularly in this one, wishing I had had a chance to know the victim. Seems like a really quite terrific young woman — as long as she was allowed to live.

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  John Ramsey on their friendship
Posted by: jameson245 - 04-06-2017, 12:46 PM - Forum: Fleet and Priscilla White - Replies (1)

starting from page 306 of the paperback edition of "the Death of Innocence": 

"As was the case with most of our social friendships, Patsy had met Priscilla and
her children first.  Their kids were almost the same ages as JonBenet and Burke.  Later, Fleet and I were introduced into an already blooming friendship. When we first met, they were renting a small house, two doors up the street from us.  The Whites told us that they had left California because they felt the fast life around Newport Beach was a poor place to raise children.  They had originally thought of moving to Aspen, where Fleet's parents had a home and where Fleet and Priscilla and their children had spent considerable time.  But even Aspen didn't suit what they were looking for.  Ultimately, they settled in Boulder after Fleet drove there one day and decided it was the perfect community for them. Our children became instant friends and enjoyed frequent trips to and from each other's houses, which they could accomplish on their own with complete freedom, via backyards or front sidewalks. That was one of the benefits of a small town, I thought.  Priscilla was a fun-loving, California girl who liked to entertain and had a good sense of humor.  She and Patsy quickly hit it off, and they enjoyed each other's company. 
 The moms soon discovered that Fleet and I shared a penchant for sailing, as well.  It is rare that dads and moms and both children synchronize so easily.  Both sets of parents were older, and that added to the similarities.
 "The newspapers later would refer to Fleet as an oil magnate.  His father, Fleet White, Sr., was reported to have had a natural gas drilling company in California.  He may have worked for his dad for a period of time before coming to Colorado, but as far as I know, Fleet did not work at a steady job during the time I knew him in Boulder.  At one point he was trying to help his dad clean up some environmental issues at a gas station they owned in California, and he spoke of trying to get something started with some Denver businessman.
"Fleet was mainly my sailing buddy.  He occasionally talked of being an ardent sailor in the Newport Beach area and proudly displayed many models of the sailboats he had raced.  He spoke of a silver loving cup which bears his name and is on permanent display at the Newport Beach Yacht Club.  He was a very experienced sailor.  I was not.  I could learn a great
deal from him.  Whenever we were together, sailing was our singular topic of conversation. Since he didn't have a nine-to-five job as I did, Fleet was free to be the coordinator of logistics for our sailing ventures."

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  J&P
Posted by: jameson245 - 04-04-2017, 09:56 PM - Forum: John Ramsey - biography - Replies (1)

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in happier days

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  Jim Marino
Posted by: jameson245 - 04-04-2017, 09:54 PM - Forum: Ramsey family FRIENDS - Replies (14)

       

Jim Marino They were loads of fun too. I've been friends since the 70's back to johns original marriage. I was with John when Beth was run over by a Mack truck. I was with him when Jon Benet was murdered. He's fine now. We talked last week. Jon Benet had Patsy ' s eyes. They were regular folks till that Christmas. What would you do in that circumstance? I defended the family to a fault on Geraldo, the view, people mag etc etc. sad and still haunts me


Jim Marino Well we will never know what culpability they have in the matter. However it doesn't matter above the love I have always had for those two

Jim Marino Kathy Buck Lezovich - not sure what that is? I was not an informant because I was surprised at the murder the same as everyone else. I defended all the crazy speculation against them... it was a nightmare.




Jim Marino Thats me and wife above John and Patsy at our company Christmas party a couple of years before



Jim Marino my position hasn't change and I have moved on. I think there will always be questions about the ransom note etc.... but its all speculation., The family has all been cleared so we have to leave it there.

all of the friends and employees were suspects till all were cleared, including me.

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  For James Guill
Posted by: jameson245 - 04-04-2017, 03:54 PM - Forum: Answering BORG questions - Replies (3)

[/url]who says there is no intruder evidence.

I have to ask what you have been reading and watching - - sure not the depositions or police reports, the crime scene photos or any number of GOOD sources of information.  I fear you have entered into the BORG Twilight Zone ane need to find your way back to the light and some truth.



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James Guill No intruder evidence. Every time I ask for this alleged intruder evidence, I am given things that have been thoroughly debunked. You guys always try to twist it to fit your intruder theory. It's not there. Grand Jury indicted after looking at all of the evidence for over a year!
James Guill I've made my case repeatedly, Kathy. The basement window, shoe prints, finger/palm prints, hairs, DNA, stun gun etc.. The police report also says all doors were locked and no signs of entry at any window. If there was an intruder, he had a key. And Patsy wrote that ransom note. No doubt about it.

Starting at the beginning - - if you take one piece of evidence at a time and research it here - on webbsleuths.org - you may find you can find more intruder evidence than you can handle.

From the stun gun - the marks, the interviews with Mike Doberson - the experiments he has done - the other cases he worked on - - - to the list of "things to do" that came out of the Police meetings - - one being find out who OWNED these stun guns back then.  To the interview with the manufacturer.  That stun gun is no theory - - but as you made clear in that other discussion, you really don't care.


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James Guill There is no proof that anyone else was in the house that night! Where's your proof?? To say that someone COULD'VE been, is not proof that there was someone!
l All that exists is a mountain of circumstantial inculpatory evidence implicating the family! No evidence of anyone else having been there! You have nothing.


[url=https://www.facebook.com/melinda.soppel?fref=ufi]Melinda Soppel then invited James Guill to read a thread on Evidence of Intruder


jameson askd - Care to guess his response?    Wait no longer.

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James Guill No thanks.



jameson - "THIS is the BORG mentality.  Don't try to confuse their set minds with facts.  They like being BORG and, damn it, they will NOT be unassimilated!"

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  Isabel Celis
Posted by: jameson245 - 04-04-2017, 03:35 PM - Forum: OTHER children taken from their beds - No Replies

The body of 6 year old Isabel Celis was found 5 years after being taken from her Arizona bed.
April, 2017

 6-year-old Isabel Celis - taken from her bed in Tucson, Arizona,
police found her remains in a remote area
DNA analysis did confirm that the remains were those of Isabel Celis

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Isabel was last seen by her family about 11 p.m. on Friday, April 20, 2012.


Her father discovered that she was missing at 8 a.m. the next morning - a broken screen was found in her bedroom.

In that case, the police did go to the media with some case against the parents but said
“We’re labeling it as suspicious circumstances and a possible abduction.”

In the statement after confirming Isabel’s death, Tucson police said they “will continue to actively pursue those responsible for any involvement in Isabel’s disappearance and death, and will pursue prosecution to the highest level possible.”
Officials will not be releasing further details at this time since that “could have unintended consequences,” police said.
“As we move forward in our investigation, we will release additional details as they become available.”

Tucson police are still asking anyone with information about this case to please call 88-CRIME. Tips can be anonymous.
While confirmation of Isabel’s death “may provide some degree of closure,” the police statement reads, “this also sadly ends the hope of bringing Isabel home safely to her family.”

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