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  Sherry Keene-Osborn
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-02-2018, 06:19 PM - Forum: Names to remember - No Replies

[b]Sherry was a very special person.  She was a good journalist, she reported the news, didn't make it.  She always sought the truth and didn't burn her sources.  She was tenacious in her quest for the right story - willing to make the calls no one else would make. She didn't take the easy path but pushed herself to walk on the right path, even when her body was telling her she could go no further.  When the medication distorted her appearance, she still faced the cameras if she felt she had something only she could contribute.  She was a trouper.[/b]
[b]More than that, Sherry was a friend.  Her phone was always available to her friends and she spoke to all of us with patience and kindness, always, even when she was disappointed or upset with us.   She was the listening ear when a friend just needed to "get it out".  She mended bridges between friends who had differences they couldn't seem to overcome.  She held people's hands in the night when they called with their fears.  Whether the call was from across the country or the bar down the street, Sherry would answer and be there.[/b]

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  Steve Thomas' stretttcccccchhhhhhh
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-29-2018, 07:35 AM - Forum: Duck Tape - Replies (1)

page 136 in his paperback. tells the story of how the link can be made between Patsy and the tape sold at McGuckin's Hardware store.

"The manager showed us where black duct tape was sold in the paint department and explained that purchases were not listed as specific items on  receipts.  Instead the computer logged them in according to the sections from which they came, and during rush times like holidays, harried cashiers sometimes hit the wrong computer key and credited an item by mistake to an adjacent department. The paint department was next to the builder's hardware department.  Among the items on Patsy's December 9 receipt was an item from builder's hardware.  The price was $1.99.  On the Dec. 2 slip, there was an item from the garden department.  It was $1.99.  Duct tape also sold for $1.99.  We had no way of knowing what she bought."

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  Lori Poland - Robert Thiret
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-24-2018, 06:27 PM - Forum: Colorado crimes - Replies (1)

• Aug. 22, 1983: three-year-old Lori Poland was kidnapped in front of her home. Witnesses saw a partial car license plate number that matched another seen in an earlier reported kidnap attempt. The match led to Robert Paul Thiret. Three days later, Lori was rescued when a couple hiking 15 miles west of Denver heard her cries for help from the bottom of a 10-foot outhouse pit. Lori was hospitalized and suffered from exposure, but identified Thiret in a photo lineup. He went to prison in 1984 until he was completely freed in 1990 with no parole requirement.

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  phenotyping in the news
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-23-2018, 08:15 PM - Forum: DNA - more technical discussions - No Replies

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Colorado Springs police have taken one step closer to solving a decades-old cold case with the arrest of a 46-year-old man in connection with the alleged rape and killing of Mary Lynn Vialpondo, police chief Peter Carey said Thursday afternoon.
James Edward Papol, who was 15 when he allegedly committed the homicide, is being held in Pueblo County Jail, police said.

El Paso County District Attorney Dan May said the Colorado Springs Police Department’s cold case unit was critical to uncovering new details in the case.
“This does culminate a 33-year investigation,” May said.
On the morning of her death, June 5, 1988, Vialpondo had returned home on the 2200 block of West Kiowa Street after attending a family wedding in Pueblo. As she got out of the car, Vialpondo had an argument with her husband and ran away in a westerly direction.
[Image: 41964589_2385508911464980_21511718523811...99px&ssl=1]Mary Lynne Vialpando
Vialpondo was raped and killed later that morning in Old Colorado City in West Colorado Springs.


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Witnesses later told police that they saw her try to enter the Thunder and Buttons bar, but she did not have any money and couldn’t pay the cover charge.
She then dashed in and out of Roger’s Bar and walked into an alley between 2:30 and 3 a.m., according to a Colorado Springs police report.
A jogger found Vialpondo’s body about a block west of the bar in the alley later that same morning.
Vialpondo had been stabbed. Her attacker had thrown her to the ground three times. She cracked her head on a boulder, which was stained with her blood, said her sister, Cynthia Renkel, during a 2009 interview with The Denver Post. After Vialpondo died, the killer sexually assaulted her body, police said.
Police took DNA samples from semen left by the killer and interviewed several suspects who had seen her early that morning.
When police interrogated a witness who allegedly witnessed the homicide, they were left with the impression that he was not telling everything that he knew even after he named the man he said was the killer, Renkel said.
“He was nervous and sweaty when police questioned him,” Renkel said. “Police think he knows who was there.”

DNA testing was in its infancy at the time, but the tests allowed police to exclude certain suspects, including Vialpondo’s husband and the man named by the witness as the killer.
In 2017, Colorado Springs detectives sent the DNA evidence to a phenotyping company that used the genetic material to predict the person’s physical appearance. The company predicted the suspect’s ancestry, freckling, face shape and eye, hair and skin color.
By combining these appearance attributes, a “snapshot” composite drawing was produced depicting what the suspect may have looked like at approximately 25 years old.
Papol has a long arrest history in the state dating back to 1991, according to Colorado Bureau of Investigation records. He was arrested on suspicion of a number of misdemeanor crimes, including assault, shoplifting and failure to appear in court.
In 2003, Papol was arrested by Colorado Springs police and charged on suspicion of multiple felonies, including kidnapping, robbery, vehicle theft, assault, menacing with a handgun and domestic violence crimes against a person. Papol was found not guilty of multiple charges by reason of insanity, according to CBI records.
In December of 2015, Papol was arrested by Colorado Springs police on suspicion of allegedly escaping from the Colorado Mental Health Hospital.

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  and hence and murder references
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-20-2018, 11:13 PM - Forum: Ransom Note - Replies (1)

sentence is from the confession of Nathan Leopold - - they had the father  moving from here to there to get their messages - - as happened in the later movie, Dirty Harry. Just look at the sentences - - run on sentences concerning the delivery of the money and both use a certain phrase...

Our original plan had included a relay which was to send Mr. Franks to a"Help Keep the City Clean" box at the corner of Vincennes and Pershing but we had difficulty in making the envelope stick as we intended, and hence decided to eliminate this relay.
If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence an earlier pickup of your daughter.

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Posted by: jameson245 - 09-20-2018, 10:52 PM - Forum: Ransom Note - Replies (7)

Good info on the ransom note.


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  later that day
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-20-2018, 10:10 PM - Forum: December 26th - No Replies

Before it became national news JonBenet’s death hit much closer to home. Pam Griffin was a good friend of the Ramsey family. She designed and created custom pageant outfits while her daughter, Kristine, was JonBenet’s pageant coach. It was during the 10 PM evening news that Pam first heard of JonBenet’s death. JonBenet’s photo appeared on screen as the newscasters broke the story of a little girl’s body found in the basement of her family’s home. Pam was in shock. Her first thought went to her friend, Patsy. Pam found her daughter, and together they drove to the Ramsey’s house.

They arrived as the police were busily going through the house. Despite the cold winter air, Pam and Kristine waited behind the police tape, hoping to see Patsy. The doors opened and three detectives emerged, carrying a tiny, black body bag. They watched as the little girl they had come to love was wheeled down the sidewalk lined with red and white candy canes for the Christmas season.

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  grave defiled
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-20-2018, 09:42 PM - Forum: just BORG hate - No Replies

In October of 1999 the marble slab of JonBenet’s grave had been vandalized. Using a red marker, an unknown person wrote “No justice in the U.S.A.” just days after DA Alex Hunter announced that he would not be pressing charges against John or Patsy Ramsey after the 13 month grand jury investigation.

This would not be the only incident someone had written a message on JonBenet’s resting spot. During an interview with Larry King, John and Patsy went with the film to the cemetery in Marietta, Georgia where they found another message. This time “Daddy did it” was written on a bottom corner of the slab, also in red marker.

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  The Medal John Keeps
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-20-2018, 09:36 PM - Forum: Pageants - Replies (1)


This is the medal JonBenet won in the talent portion of her last pageant. She performed “Rocking Around the Christmas Tree”, complete with a dance routine that including JonBenet pretending to play a little, plastic saxophone. After all of the winners has been announced, JonBenet ran off stage and gave it to her father. John keeps it tucked away in his wallet, two decades later.

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  Christmas letter 1996
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-20-2018, 03:43 PM - Forum: Christmas Day, 1996 - No Replies

Dear Family and Friends,

It’s been another busy year at the Ramsey household. Can’t believe it’s almost over and time to start again!
Melinda has graduated from Medical College of Georgia and is working in Pediatrics ICU at Kennstone Hospital in Atlanta. John Andrew (2nd) is a Sophomore at the University of Colorado.
Burke is a busy fourth grader where he really shines in math and spelling. He played flag football this fall and is currently on a basketball binge! His little league team was #1. He lost just about all of his baby teeth, so I’m sure we’ll be seeing the orthodontist in 1997!
JonBenet is enjoying her first year of “real school”. Kindergarten in the Core Knowledge program is fast paced and five full days a week. She has already been moved ahead to first grade math. She continues to enjoy participating in talent and modeling pageants. She was named “America’s Miss Royale Tiny Miss” last summer and is Colorado’s Little Miss Christmas. Her teacher says she is so outgoing that she will never have trouble delivering an oral book report!
John is always on the go traveling hither and yonder. Access recently celebrated its one-billion $$ mark in sales, so he’s pretty happy! He and his crew were underway in the Port Huron to Mackinac Island yacht race in July, but had to pull out midway due to the lack of wind (Can you believe that?) But, his real love is the new “old looking” boat, Grand Season, which he spent months designing.
I spend most of my “free time” working in the school and doing volunteer work. The Charlevoix house was on the home tour in July and will likely appear in one of the better Homes and Garden publications in 1997. On a recent trip to NYC, my friend and I appeared amid the throng of fans on the TODAY show. Al Roker and Bryant actually talked to us and we were on camera for a few fleeting moments!
We are all enjoying continued good heath and look forward to seeing you in 1997! One final note… thank you to all of my “friends” and my dear husband for surprising me with the biggest, most outrageous 40th birthday bash I’ve ever had! We’ll be spending my actual birthday on the Disney’s Big Red Boat over the new year!
Merry Christmas and much love,
The Ramseys.

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