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  from John Ramsey v CBS lawsuit 10/14/2017
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-14-2017, 02:06 PM - Forum: Handwriting - No Replies

422. The six legitimate handwriting experts who analyzed the original Ransom Note
and original handwriting exemplars of John, Patsy, and Burke long ago rejected the theory that a
member of the Ramsey family wrote the Ransom Note.
423. Each of the six handwriting experts concluded that Burke and John did not write
the Ransom Note, and the consensus of the six experts was that the chances that Patsy wrote it
were “very low.” 
424. As set forth in the Wolf Decision,
During the investigation, the Boulder Police Department and Boulder County District Attorney’s Office consulted at least six handwriting experts . . . All six experts agreed that Mr. Ramsey could be eliminated as the author of the Ransom Note.  None of the six consulted experts identified Mrs. Ramsey as the author of the Ransom Note.  Rather, the experts’ consensus was that she “probably did not” write the Ransom Note.  On a scale of one to five, with five being elimination as the author of the Ransom Note, the experts placed Mrs. Ramsey at a 4.5 or a 4.0.  The experts described the chance of Mrs. Ramsey being the author of the Ransom Note as “very low.”
Wolf Decision at 1334; see Exhibit C.

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  Garotte or blow to head first?
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-14-2017, 01:15 PM - Forum: Cord ligature - Garrote - No Replies

from John v CBS lawsuit, this goes to the question of which came first, the blow to the head or death by strangulation.

187. The medical examiner found the cause of JonBenét’s death was asphyxia by
strangulation with the garrote associated with craniocerebral trauma.
188. The medical examiner found physical evidence that conclusively established that
JonBenét was alive at the time she was asphyxiated. 
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189. There were physical findings on her body that strongly suggested that JonBenét
struggled with her attacker and was conscious at the time she was garroted.
190. JonBenét’s neck had fingernail abrasions and scrapes in the area where the garrote
was embedded in her neck.

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  From John v CBS lawsuit
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-14-2017, 01:12 PM - Forum: DNA - more technical discussions - No Replies

177. The DNA of an unidentified male was found under JonBenét’s fingernails.
178. The DNA found under JonBenét’s nails did not match John, Patsy, or Burke’s
179. The DNA of an unidentified male was found in the crotch of JonBenét’s
180. The DNA found in JonBenét’s underwear did not match John, Patsy, or Burke’s
181. The DNA found in JonBenét’s underwear was likely from saliva.
182. The DNA of an unidentified male was found on the left and right sides of the
waistband of the pajama bottoms worn by JonBenét at the time of her death.
183. The DNA found on JonBenét’s pajama bottoms does not match John, Patsy, or
Burke’s DNA.
184. The DNA found on JonBenét’s pajama bottoms was touch DNA.
185. The saliva DNA found on JonBenét’s underwear was consistent with the touch
DNA found on JonBenét’s pajama bottoms.
186. An unidentified Caucasian pubic or auxiliary hair was found on the blanket
covering JonBenét’s body and did not match hairs of John, Patsy, or Burke.

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  Baseball bats
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-14-2017, 01:07 PM - Forum: odds and ends - Replies (2)

Two bats were found outside the Ramsey house.   Burke readily identified the one in the back of the house near where the kids played baseball.  He did not identify the one on the North side window ledge - though after being questioned about it a few times he seemed confused and said he wasn't sure if he had a second bat.  He said the bats were not stored in the basement but in the garage.

This is from the John v CBS lawsuit.  

173. An unidentified baseball bat was found on the north side of the house containing
fibers consistent with fibers found in the carpet in the basement where JonBenét Ramsey’s body
was found.

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  Evidence found in JonBenet's bed
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-14-2017, 01:00 PM - Forum: odds and ends - Replies (1)

165. The end portion of the wooden handle and the cord used to construct the garrote
were never found in the Ramsey home; i.e., the perpetrator removed these items from the home
after killing JonBenét.
166. The duct tape covering JonBenét’s mouth was never sourced to the Ramsey
167. Fiber evidence suggests that the cord and duct tape were, at one time, in the
second-floor area of the home near JonBenét’s bedroom.  
168. Fibers consistent with those of the cord used to make the slip knots and garrote
were found on JonBenét’s bed.
169. Other items not belonging on the second floor of the Ramsey home were found
there on the day after the murder. 
170. A rope was found inside of a brown paper sack in the guest bedroom on the
second floor.
171. Small pieces of the material of this brown sack were found in JonBenét’s bed and
in the body bag that was used to transport her body.
172. John and Patsy disclaimed ownership and knowledge of that rope.

That is from 10/14/2017 lawsuit filed by John Ramsey against CBS

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  on unlocked windows and open doors
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-14-2017, 12:58 PM - Forum: December 26th - Replies (2)

From John v CBS lawsuit filed October 14, 2017

155. The Ramsey home was not secure on the night of December 25, 1996.  They had
not turned their security alarm on, and at least seven windows and one door were found unlocked
on the morning of December 26, 1996.  A door from the kitchen to the outside was found open.

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  I disagree with the experts on one point
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-14-2017, 12:49 PM - Forum: Autopsy - No Replies

According to Lin Wood in the John Ramsey v CBS lawsuit:

140. The pathologist performing the autopsy on JonBenét’s body discovered that she
was sexually assaulted by being vaginally penetrated, including penetration with the broken
wooden handle of the garrote.
141. Defendant Spitz concurred during his examination in the 1990s that JonBenét was
penetrated with the broken wooden handle of the garrote.

I disagree with the experts.  I agree there was a sexual assault and I accept their finding that a shard of the paintbrush was found in the vagina.  I disagree with how it got there.

I see no evidence proving JonBenet's long johns and panties were pulled down to her ankles or removed in order to give the killer a clear and unhampered access to her vaginal area.  I think they were pushed down slightly when her abuser put his hand in her clothing to assault her - I don't think part of his "need" was to see her genitals or watch this assault.  I think he was looking at her face and I think when he has assaulted others he had the same needs and methods.

I could be wrong, but that is what the evidence tells me.  The evidence I am referring to is the urine stain and blood drops that were found in her panties.  I believe I am right on that.    When he pulled the long johns and panties back up, there was not far to go and the urine and blood was not disturbed by that movement.

The birefringment material found in the vagina came from the paintbrush and I believe that tiny sliver broke away from the paintbrush when the killer snapped the center part of the paintbrush away from the rest.  The shard stuck to the killer's hands and was transferred to the vagina during a digital assault.  

I believe she was alive and alert during that assault and that was when she let out that horrible scream heard by the neighbor, Melody Stanton.  She would have been struggling at that time and if he tried to assault her with a broken piece of wood, I feel sure there would have been scratches on her external genitals which... never appeared.

So I disagree with the experts in this area and would document that here.

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  The Lawsuit
Posted by: jameson245 - 10-14-2017, 11:34 AM - Forum: John Ramsey sues CBS - Replies (15)


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  John Ramsey files lawsuit against CBS after series about JonBenet'
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 10-11-2017, 12:09 PM - Forum: What is in the news - staying up to date - No Replies


John Ramsey files lawsuit against CBS after series about JonBenet's murder
Complaint targets same production sued by his son, Burke Ramsey
By Mitchell Byars
Staff Writer
Posted:   10/10/2017 05:51:43 PM MDT

John Ramsey looks on as his wife, Patsy, holds an advertisement promising a reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the murderer of their 6-year-old daughter, JonBenet, during an interview in Boulder on May 1, 1997. (Camera file photo)

The father of JonBenet Ramsey has filed a lawsuit against CBS and the people involved with a two-part special about Ramsey's murder on the 20-year anniversary of her death.
Court records show that John Ramsey filed a lawsuit in the state of Michigan's 3rd Circuit Court against CBS Corporation and Critical Content LLC, which produced a "docu-series" called "The Case Of: JonBenet Ramsey."
The suit also names Stanley Burke, Jim Clemente, James Fitzgerald, James Kolar, Henry Lee, Laura Richards and Werner Spitz, all of whom were featured on the program.

The production, which brought in experts "to try and solve the case once and for all," advanced the theory that JonBenet was killed by her brother, Burke, who was 9 at the time.

Burke Ramsey has filed his own defamation lawsuit against CBS, Critical Content, and Burke, Clemente, Fitzgerald, Kolar, Lee, Richards and Spitz. A ruling on a defense motion to dismiss that suit is pending.
A copy of John Ramsey's suit, which was filed on Sept. 14, was not immediately available. It is scheduled for a status conference on Dec. 15, according to court records.

JonBenet Ramsey was found dead Dec. 26, 1996, in the basement of her family's Boulder home, 755 15th St. — which is now 749 15th St. — several hours after Patsy Ramsey called 911 to say her daughter was missing and that a ransom note had been left behind.
While her death was ruled a homicide, nobody was ever charged in the case, which has become one of the enduring murder mysteries in American history.
A Boulder County grand jury prepared a true bill that would indict JonBenet's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey, on counts of child abuse resulting in death and accessory to first-degree murder..
The Boulder District Attorney at the time, Alex Hunter, never signed the indictment, which was not made public until 2013.
Patsy Ramsey died in 2006.

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  Delphi murders and BPD
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 10-06-2017, 09:19 PM - Forum: Misleading the media - No Replies

Its crazy thinking about the Delphi murders and the JonBenet Ramsey murder.

Both are tragic.

Libby was so brave.. (Her real name is Liberty, so fitting for her) taking pictures and audio of her killer.. she knew they were in trouble.

Ive joined some facebook groups regarding the Delphi murders.. I had to leave some because some are just plain crazy..

Well ive noticed how many people are frustrated with the Delphi PD... they are demanding answers and the Delphi PD have no intentions of releasing much information... they dont want to compromise the investigation..

Imagine if the BPD refused to leak information. Lets take a moment and think about it...

The first month of her murder... the media/people would know JonBenet was murdered.. know she was a child... know the basics..

Im sure everyone would still see the tragic and horrifying video of JonBenet coming out.. in the black bag..

If BPD had morals, they would keep the information very minimal.

Release what was needed.. possibly some information regarding the ransom note.. MAYBE some information about the garrotte.. (like do you recognize this rope? ) Was it needed to say JonBenet was in pageants? No, I dont think so.

Make it known to the Media they NEED tips coming in.. anyone know of anything? Call us ASAP.

The BPD had already made up their mind who did it and decided it was time to blame JR and PR for their poor mistakes at the crime scene... any potential evidence washed away.. they messed this up.

Wouldnt it be wonderful if they were like the Delphi PD??

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