Jinks Obs wrote - "If my theory serves me right..then     There's dna of Hispanic. African-American native American and caucasian. The cover up of this crime is beyond heinous    Sorry to tell you this idis but the ramseys are definitely involved. They could have told the truth but decided not too. So apparently they want to be up shits creek without a paddle."


So, everyone has the right to have a theory - and I clearly think Jimks is off. 

I have not seen any report that indicates there is DNA from African American or Native American - - but I clearly don't have every bit of evidence out there - - so my question to Jinks is this - - -

Can you tell us the source of this information and make a real case against any member of the family?  I ask because I see a HUGE list of exculpatory evidence and think you are making this stuff up as you go along.

No, I am not interested in entering a private chat with either of you as BORG tends to edit then share.  So I will answer here.

A healthy person maintains control over themselves and doesn't feel a great need to force themselves on others, to be in control of others.    A psychopath can't be happy with controlling hirself - - hir has to control others.  In some circumstances, simple control is not enough, they have to HURT the other person. Sadistic psychopaths can hurt others financially, emotionally, physically... it brings them joy to know they caused that pain.

Are ALL of them totally unhappy all the time?  No, but even a period of time in their lives could have set up a habit that just feels good to them.

(Pam, I don't know if they like pain during sex but suspect your good friend Laurence might help you with that one.)

Since my energy in this case is spent educating people to the truth, encouraging those entrusted to solving this to do better, trying to raise funds to help advance the DNA investigation - - - - - and I am NOT trying to hurt ANYONE while I do that - - I don't think I am at all the same as those who have total disregard for the facts and just go about trying to hurt the efforts of others to see this solved.

Am I calling YOU a psychopath?  Nope.  I have my questions but honestly don't care enough about either of you, or the others, to take my focus off the case - - that trumps all beyond my family.

Going to be hard to copy and paste this and change it.  But feel free to copy and pasts as it is.  I have no problem with that.  Hope I answered your question.  No private chats.

Apr 11, 2015 Bob Buice rated it did not like it
Recommends it for: No one
What can we say about a writer who refuses to disclose his/her name and a book that has to be self-published. Is the author concerned about something? Could it be that no other publisher would touch it? In “Ruled IN – Solving the JonBenet Ramsey Case” an author identified as “DocG” determines unequivocally that John Ramsey is the murderer of his daughter, JonBenet, no ifs, ands or buts. The author goes through a long, boring comparison of handwriting, contradicting several experts, to show that What can we say about a writer who refuses to disclose his/her name and a book that has to be self-published. Is the author concerned about something? Could it be that no other publisher would touch it? In “Ruled IN – Solving the JonBenet Ramsey Case” an author identified as “DocG” determines unequivocally that John Ramsey is the murderer of his daughter, JonBenet, no ifs, ands or buts. The author goes through a long, boring comparison of handwriting, contradicting several experts, to show that John Ramsey wrote the ransom note. By the time the reader gets half way through all this rhetoric, he/she is thoroughly confused, if not asleep. The author uses the autopsy report to accuse John Ramsey of sexually molesting JonBenet, claiming that the report indicates “digital penetration.” While the report did, in fact, report damages to the vaginal area, which several experts indicated were consistent with past and present sexual molestation, the term “digital penetration” was not used. In all fairness to DocG, considerable evidence against John Ramsey was presented, but I suggest interpreting it with caution, given DocG’s determination to convict John Ramsey. DocG says that an intruder could not have entered through the notorious basement window because the spider webs and dust were not disturbed. Other reports say just the opposite. Much has been written about the JonBenet Ramsey case and many reports contradict each other. Nobody knows the truth. If you are interested in a scholarly analysis of the evidence to reach a solution to this crime, forget it. However, if you like a one-sided fantasy, whose decision is presented at the beginning, followed by a careful selection of evidence to support this conclusion, this book is for you.

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[–]Debbiecass34 2 points 15 hours ago 
Susan one of the donations made on the go fund me is denying she made the donation she didn't donate and is claiming her name is being used her profile etc. She did go to school with Burke but that's the full extent of it."


WOW JAMS !! LMAO! I didnt know YOU WENT TO SCHOOL WITH BURKE!!!!!!!!!! LMFAO

This go fund me has caused a lot of  "controversy " and has multiple people reporting it daily ( get a life, period).
Sad this is causing controversy....

Take a minute and realize something.

Go fund me will ALWAYS investigate fraud claims with EVERY go fund me account that is reported as fraud.

Go fund me will NOT hesitate to remove a campaign if they found it to be fraud. 
............................................................................................................

The go fund me is still ACTIVE BECAUSE ITS NOT FRAUD!!!!!!!!! SIMPLE AS THAT!!!
 Time is precious... use your time to do something  PRODUCTIVE instead of WASTING YOUR TIME REPORTING THIS ACCOUNT!!!

We ALL know the case  was BOTCHED from the very beginning... critical evidence was contaminated..  

LE was able to get VERY important DNA evidence...

GSLD99178617...... That may be letters and numbers just to you..

BUT THAT IS THE KEY TO THIS PUZZLE!! FOREIGN DNA!!! THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE RAMSEY FAMILY!

Wouldnt you want JonBenet to receive Justice?? SHE DESERVES IT!!

People tend to forget this was a little girl who was BRUTALLY murdered. She was a beautiful girl who was FULL Of life. Her life was cut too short. We owe it to JonBenet. 

MILLIONS of people were captivated by this tragic murder.

This is YOUR time to help find justice.

The Killer of JonBenet Ramsey - revealed



http://detectiveandrews.tripod.com/named.html

Colorado allows the death penalty as an option in the following cases:
first-degree murder
kidnapping resulting in the death of the victim
felony murder 

The sentence is death by lethal injection.
Minimum age for death penalty: 18
Colorado forbids the execution of the mentally retarded.
Executions 1930-1976: 47
Executions since 1977: 1

Quote:Five days later, and just two days after Steve Thomas's resignation, Fleet White - the friend who had been with me when I found JonBenet's body on December 26, 1996 - sent a fourteen-page, rambling letter to "the people of Colorado" and to Governor Roy Romer, asking him to remove District Attorney Alex Hunter from JonBenet's case. White claimed that various relationships between the Boulder County district attorney and the legal community (our attorneys, specifically) may have impaired the objectivity of the DA. He also cited the atmosphere of distrust and noncooperation between the district attorney and the Boulder police. Finally, he said that Hunter had been criticized in the past for not being an aggressive prosecutor of homicide cases.
A few people spoke out about this letter. For instance, in an interview with the Boulder Daily Camera, Colorado University Professor of Legal Ethics Dan Vigil said the relationship between Hunter and our attorneys, mentioned in White's letter, was inconsequential because "in a legal community this size, people are going to interact."
Then, on August 20 Governor Romer's spokesman, Jim Carpenter said that the governor saw nothing in Fleet White's letter that would lead him to change his mind.
Fleet White had tried to get Romer to replace Hunter on December 18, 1997, and when his request was rejected, White had sent an earlier letter to the Boulder Daily Camera, making many of the same allegations as his present letter.
Why was White so adamant about ousting District Attorney Alex Hunter? Chuck Green had given one theory in a Denver Post article back on January 16. "Her death and the year-long investigation had become a daily obsession for the Whites, according to friends," Green said, "and they are determined to follow every twist and turn to its conclusion. It was primarily that preoccupation with the murder case that caused them to ask Governor Roy Romer to personally intervene with the investigation by replacing Boulder District Attorney with a special prosecutor. But there was a lingering animosity toward Hunter's office, sources said, that helped fuel the Whites' anger."
Green went on to explain that in the summer of 1997 the Whites had asked to be "publicly cleared as potential suspects in the case, demanding that Police Chief Tom Koby issue a statement of exoneration." The DA had advised the police "to limit the statement to the current status of their case." White, Green's sources said, resented this.
Still, Fleet White's protests continued. On Monday, August 24, White wrote another letter to "the people of Colorado," this time suggesting that Lt. Governor Gail Schoettler had influenced the governor's decision. White said that Schoettler's husband had made several telephone calls to me [John Ramsey] in the days after JonBenet's murder. Yes, he had, although I never received any of them. As a former fraternity brother at Michigan State University, Don Stevens (Schoettler's husband) had called to offer his condolences and to inquire about funeral arrangements.
Lt. Governor Gail Schoettler replied to this accusation in an interview with the Boulder Daily Camera, "The governor and I have never discussed this case," she said.
The Whites were apparently trying to show that the Democratic "family" had somehow closed ranks to protect us. It was absurd and a bit mad. Plus, I was never an active Democrat.
On August 20, 1998, the Whites commented to a Camera staff reporter, "The district attorney and the Ramsey attorneys have simutaneously rebuked the police for 'focusing' their investigation on the Ramseys in fact the police were simply following evidence."
The innuendo here was obvious. Why had our former friend turned against us?
As Patsy and I thought thought about this, we went back to the days right after the murder. On December 26, 1996, the police had naturally asked me a lot of questions. I learned that the officers had interrogated Fleet for a long time on the twenty-seventh. I had no idea what was said, but after this session, Fleet returned upset and confused. Suddenly this close friend became tense and acted very strange.
As was the case with most of our social friendships, Patsy had met Priscilla and her children first. Their kids were almost the same ages as JonBenet and Burke. Later Fleet and I were introduced into an already blooming friendship. When we first met, they were renting a small house, two doors up the street from us. The Whites told us that they had left California because they felt the fast life around Newport Beach was a poor place to raise children. They had originally thought of moving to Aspen, where Fleet's parents had a home and where Fleet and Priscilla and their children had spent considerable time. But even Aspen didn't suit what they were looking for. Ultimately they settled in Boulder after Fleet drove there one day and decided it was the perfect community for them. Our children became instant friends and enjoyed frequent trips to and from each other's houses, which they could accomplish on their own with complete freedom, via backyards or front sidewalks.
Priscilla was a fun-loving California girl who liked to entertain and had good sense of humor. She and Patsy had quickly hit it off, and they enjoyed each other's company. The moms soon discovered that Fleet and I shared a penchant for sailing, as well. It's rare that dads and moms and both children synchronize so easily. Both sets of parents were older, and that added to the similarities.
The newspapers later would refer to Fleet as an oil magnate.His father, Fleet White Sr., was reported to have had a natural gas drilling company in California. He may have worked for his dad for a period of time before coming to Colorado, but as far as I know, Fleet did not work at a steady job during the time I knew him in Boulder. At one point he was trying to help his dad clean up some environmental issues at a gas station they owned in California, and he spoke of trying to get something started with some Denver businessman.
Fleet was mainly my sailing buddy. He occasionally talked of being an ardent sailor in the Newport Beach area and proudly displayed many models of the sailboats he had raced. He spoke of a silver loving cup, which bears his name and is on permanent display at the Newport Beach Yacht Club. He was a very experienced sailor. I was not. I could learn a great deal from him. Whenever we were together, sailing was our singular topic of conversation. Since he didn't have a nine-to-five job as I did, Fleet was free to be the one coordinator of logistics for our sailing ventures.
After JonBenet's murder, the Whites had arrived in Atlanta for Jonbenet's funeral the day after we did. They were scheduled to stay at Rod Westmoreland's home. Each of our Atlanta friends had graciously adopted a family from Colorado to host during the funeral. As an unspoken courtesy, our closest friends in Atlanta were to host the Whites, our closes friends from Colorado. For some reason, shortly after the Whites arrived at the Westmorelands', Priscilla got into a tiff with Rod's wife, Kimberly, and refused to stay in the Westmoreland's lovely home. The Whites said they would check into a hotel instead.
When I heard what had happened, I attributed the incident to the fact that everyone was distraught, tired and easily upset. I assumed they must have had reason to be on edge, and I mistakenly thought everything would subside.
As is customary in the South, the Westmorelands hosted a brunch in their home immediately following JonBenet's funeral for family, friends, and children. Apparently the Whites interpreted this gracious act as a horrible display of opulence and ostentation. In Whites' view, the Westmorelands were acting totally in bad taste, a view which was not shared by any other friends in attendance.
Eventually, Patsy and I suggested that the Whites stay at my brother's house. We didn't know what had happened at the Westmorelands', but we didn't want them staying in a motel. After all was said and done, they were our good friends and my brother, Jeff, is probably the most calm and under control person I know. Suggesting the Whites stay there was the logical thing to do. Unfortunately, nothing worked out there either.
Following the funeral Jeff remembers giving the Whites a ride to the Westmorelands' for the reception, and afterward, bringing them back to his own home. Fleet began complaining about the Westmorelands' home being in an exclusive area of Atlanta. Priscilla apparently was offended that the family had a maid. They persisted with these demeaning statements and ridiculed the Westmorelands' lifestyle. Fleet and Priscilla left Jeff's for a walk around the neighborhood.
When they returned, Fleet had become even more upset and kept talking about the need to keep "outsiders" from getting in on the investigation. He was rambling on and on, saying things like "We can't hurt the reputation of the people of Boulder...JonBenet is gone, we have to protect Boulder now...One hundred years ago people on farms took care of themselves. They didn't need cops or lawyers." His behavior seemed irrational to Jeff.
In short order, Fleet became more and more animated. He was periodically jabbing Jeff in the chest with his index finger and putting his hands on Jeff's neck. Jeff thought Fleet was on the verge of being out of control.
"How many people have you made really, really mad at you?" Fleet said, very agitated. "Ten or twelve maybe?"
"No, I don't think so," Jeff said, trying to remain calm.
Fleet continued pressing. "How many people have you made mad enough to want to kill you, or a member of your family? Two or three?"
"No," Jeff responded. He didn't know how anyone could think that way.
But the altercation didn't go away. Fleet's behavior seemed so unreasonable and out of place that it was frightening. Even though Jeff, who had been a high school quarterback, was perfectly capable of defending himself, Fleet scared him. Fleet and Priscilla left Jeff's home to talk to me, and Jeff decided that without a doubt he didn't want the Whites staying in his house that night.
Later that day at the Paughs' house, Priscilla sat me down and told me that she had talked to the police for hours. Then she abruptly said that there was semen found on JonBenet's body. I was so shocked. I couldn't speak. I just walked away. That urban legend was later proven untrue.
Before the Whites left for Atlanta, Priscilla called Patsy's father on the phone from the airport and argued with Don that she knew things that nobody else knew, telling him that he must persuade Patsy and me not to get attorneys. With that Priscilla hung up the telephone, and she and Fleet flew back to Boulder.
After we returned to Boulder, we experienced another strange incident involving the Whites. Patsy and I had been meeting with Father Rol Hoverstock in his office at St. John's and were in prayer with him when we heard a commotion outside. Fleet White pushed past both Patsy's father, who was waiting for us in the reception area, and Father Rol's secretary, demanding entrance to his office. Fleet barged in, unannounced, and dropped down on one knee, flashing a reporter's business card in the air.
"Now they're after me John!" Fleet shouted at me. "You know what I have to do, John." He looked crazed and shaken.
Father Rol kept trying to calm him down.
"What is it Fleet?" I reached out for the card. "Let me see it."
He kept waving the card but finally gave it to me. I looked on the back and realized that a reporter had scribbled a question about who had removed the tape from JonBenet's mouth. Was it Fleet or was it John? she had asked. Fleet kept yelling at us, as if Patsy and I had some sort of command over the media. I told him not to pay any attention to the press and offered to take the card and have one of our investigators call the reporter. Fleet said, "No, I'll take care of this in my own way."
What can I say? Fleet and I never had friction in our friendship prior to JonBenet's death. Clearly, something happened to the Whites between the time they were with us on the morning of December 26 in Boulder and when they arrived in Atlanta.

who wanted to know why I thought something.  I am sharing a post I did NOT make that should say it all.  It is an old post from

http://www.re-newsit.com/2013/12/tricia-griffiths-counter-petition-to.html

1. AnonymousJanuary 17, 2015 at 8:51 PM
   
2. Websleuths used to be a wonderful place for people to try to help and figure out responsible parties for murders and where missing people could be. More recently, Trisha's success with the radio show and website has resulted in arrogance and mis-use of power. The moderators of the site used to have respect and common courtesy for their members while they enforced terms of service (TOS) for legal reasons. Now, moderators act like hall monitors, using the perceived power they have over the forums to be punitive, hostile and disrespectful of their users. Going online to WS is like asking for an adrenaline rush as users are accused of and punished for perceived violations of TOS by the mods. You will find emails in your personal email inbox from mods attacking, flaming and accusing you of doing something wrong, as if being a member makes you part of a cult where you relinquish your right to respect and common courtesy. They "yell" at users like angry camp counselors and think their power to put a user a "time out", like a child, gives them the right to be rude and disrespectful, accosting and punishing their members if they step out of line. Meanwhile, what is considered out of bounds for discussion is vague and unclear, setting up their members to enter forbidden territory, and using it as an opportunity to attack them. It's extra negativity that any healthy adult doesn't need added to their lives.
   

https://youtu.be/Z2LIP68LSgc

stop making deals with sex offenders that include them not having their DNA entered into CODIS

ABSTRACT
The Effect of DNA Databases on Plea Bargaining. (May 2014)
Sarah Kathleen Armstrong Department of Economics Texas A&M University
 
Research Advisor: Dr. Jonathon Meer Department of Economics
 
Plea bargaining is a defining characteristic of the United States criminal justice system;
according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 95% of the 1,079,000 felons convicted in state
courts during 2004 pleaded guilty rather than face jury by trail.1 Despite the prominence of plea
negotiations in the American judiciary, the implications of this process have not been subject to
analysis that sufficiently matches its importance. Meanwhile, the increasing use of high-tech law
enforcement tools like DNA databases, which increase the probability that repeat offenders are
caught for their crimes, affect parties’ relative bargaining power and incentives. Most
importantly, defendants have an incentive to negotiate lesser charges in order to avoid being
added to their state’s DNA database, in exchange for longer sentences. We examine whether the
introduction and expansion of DNA databases across the United States have affected plea
bargaining by defendants. We use difference-in-differences analysis and State Court Process
(SCP) data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics, which is collected every two years and tracks
felony cases from charging by prosecutors until final disposition. We test for the impact of DNA
database expansions on the likelihood of pleading guilty to a crime, the likelihood of charge
bargaining, and other sentencing outcomes. Estimates provide evidence that database eligible
offenders are more likely to accept charge bargains and less likely to accept sentence bargains

2
 
relative to defendants that do not face database collection, indicating that plea bargaining may
help parties involved in plea negotiations to assist offenders in avoiding DNA database
registration

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[20:30] <jameson> Hi Jeralyn.
[20:30] <nelda> Hi!
[20:30] <dvus> hi jeralyn
[20:30] <Jeralyn> hi jameson.
[20:30] <Jeralyn> hi all.
[20:30] <Afton> hi jeralyn
<Aquarius2> Hello Jeralyn
[20:30] <jameson> small group - still early
[20:30] <Jeralyn> Steve Singular is here but we have to figure out how to get him a name and logged on
[20:31] <jameson> a couple others said they would be joining us.
[20:31] <Jeralyn> okay, can you walk Steve through signing on?
[20:31] <jameson> You have mirc downloaded on both computers?
[20:32] <Jeralyn> you bet!
[20:32] <jameson> just come in and we can easily change his name once he is in here
[20:32] <Jeralyn> okay, we will move to his computer, I'll be back here as soon as he is in.
[20:33] <dvus> she seems very nice
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[20:33] <jameson> He will come in on your name, then go to the top, click commands and change nickname,
[20:33] <jem1> jem1 needs to change name to Steve.
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[20:33] <jem1> ok
[20:34] <jameson> Well, if anyone has STEVE registered, he will get bumped
[20:34] <jem1> he is steve s.
[20:34] <Blue> Hi Jams, thanks for the password
[20:34] <jameson> so pick something no one will have - like steve_CO
[20:34] <jameson> welcome, Blue
[20:34] *** jameson sets mode: +o Blue
[20:34] <Blue> Lovbely informed me
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[20:34] <Blue> Lovely Pigeon I mean
[20:34] <steve_co> he's in!
[20:35] <dvus>
[20:35] <steve_co> hi.
[20:35] <jameson> Well, welcome Steve!
[20:35] <nelda> Welcome!
[20:35] <Blue> Hello
<Aquarius2> Hello Steve
[20:35] <Afton> hi steve
[20:35] *** jameson sets mode: +o steve_co
[20:35] <dvus> hi steve!
[20:35] <Jeralyn> Anyone have any case news today?
[20:35] <jameson> The chat was set for 9 - want to just get used to this a bit?
[20:35] <nelda> We have really been looking forward to see you. We enjoyed the chat with Jeralyn so much.
[20:36] <Jeralyn> It was my first chat of any kind, and was very interesting!
[20:36] <jameson> case news? It seems there isn't any anymore
[20:36] <Jeralyn> So if you have questions for Steve, why don't you ask some?
[20:36] <jameson> I have heard that no one in CO thinks there will be an indictment now
[20:36] <Blue> They are trying to bore us to dath
[20:37] <jameson> This is the plan
[20:37] <Blue> Is this Steve Singular?
[20:37] <Jeralyn> Peter Boyles still thinks there will be an indictment!
[20:37] <jameson> Start at the top of the list of posters
[20:37] <jameson> everyone can ask a question and follow up
[20:37] <jameson> type pass if just lurking
[20:38] <Afton> Do you know of any actual cases where a child participating in pageants was victimized by a pornographer with the co-operation of the parents? If so, give some details please.
[20:38] <jameson> and we can start anytime Steve is ready
[20:38] <steve_co> i knowof cases where nothers lettheirdaughters be o
[20:39] <steve_co> photograpohednaked orner naked, (thisn is a new compueer and ny tyoing mwill improve)
[20:39] <steve_co> so the answer is yes,
[20:39] <Afton> this is for LovelyPigeon
[20:39] <Afton> Do you know of any case where a murdered, kidnapped, raped or molested child was a pageant participant? If so, give some details please
[20:40] <Jeralyn> I don't see Lovely Pigeon here, is s/he in law enforcment?
[20:40] <jameson> No - she is not here - but sent in question -
[20:40] <Afton> he he no she is our cyber buddy and asked me to post a question for her
[20:40] <Jeralyn> we got it, Steve will answer.
[20:41] <steve_co> i sas told by people in thepageants world that three out of ten girls who win are nmolested,.
[20:42] <steve_co> so there is a patternof criminak behavior here
[20:42] <Afton> by who
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[20:42] <Snow_Wolf> hi, everyone(:
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[20:42] <BayBB> Hi All
[20:42] <Afton> blue you are next
[20:43] <Afton> hi guys
[20:43] <Blue> I'd like to start by having you define the different kinds of child pornography... soft core, hard core etc. and talk about distribution methods amongst pedophiles a bit.
[20:43] <steve_co> by people attending pagents by judges in some cases
[20:43] <steve_co> by family members and others'
[20:44] <steve_co> there are 23,000 websites devoted exclusively to child porn that is very hard core
[20:44] <Blue> This is a figure from who?
[20:44] <steve_co> the world of advertising now holds what some might regard as soft core
[20:44] <steve_co> figure is from the United Nations
[20:45] <steve_co> the UN is starting to police it internationally
[20:45] <Blue> Havbe you found any hard core websites?
[20:45] <steve_co> yes. alt.binsary,etc
[20:45] <Blue> That is newsgroups
[20:45] <steve_co> yes
[20:45] <Blue> JonBent has not appeared in porn anywhere?
[20:46] <Blue> JonBenet
[20:46] <steve_co> it shows grphifc pix of five, six nd seven year olod being tied upn and sexuakky abused
[20:46] <Blue> Not JonBenet...perhaps Heather?
[20:47] <steve_co> there have been several reports of illciti photos of her but none has surfaced. One report caem from oneof herphtogs
[20:47] <Blue> herphtogs?
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[20:47] <Blue> Bobo is next
[20:47] <steve_co> Fleet's daugheris named daphne. I don't knowanything about heather.
[20:48] <jameson> no points off for spelling - be kind
[20:48] <steve_co> to go bak to softe\
[20:48] <jameson> her photographers
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[20:48] <Blue> I don't know who is herphtogs, sorry explain
[20:48] <jameson> her photographers
[20:48] <Blue> ok thanks bobo?
[20:48] <steve_co> her photgraphers
[20:48] <dvus> did I misunderstand you last night on Hardball? I understood you to say : that you believe the parents sent JBR out the night of the 25th for a photo shoot (porn)
[20:49] <steve_co> one of her photographes said thre were illigeitmate pix ofher incyberspace beforfe shedied.
[20:50] <steve_co> i am suggestingthat oneofherparents inadvertantly exposed her to somethingthatwas supposed to be innocent and unharmful. Butbecauseporn haspenetrated themainstreamit turned dangeroud.\
[20:50] <Jeralyn> But are you saying that they allowed her to be taken from the home on Xmas eve? Or that someone unbeknownst to them came and took her?
[20:50] <Jeralyn> xmas night, sorry
[20:50] <steve_co> I am saing
[20:51] <steve_co> Iamsayingthat a parentparticipated in getting heroutof andbackintothe house.
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[20:51] <Jeralyn> On Xmas night, knowing they were leaving early am for Michigan? I have a hard time with that one.
[20:52] <dvus> okay, then why would they cover for this? In your opinion? I don't understand why any parent would cover for this if their child was murdered
[20:52] <jameson> Steve - you said that night that there was fiber evidence in two places. I know about the blue on her genitals - what else were you talking about?
[20:52] <steve_co> It is possible that an online videobn
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[20:52] <steve_co> was beingshotthatnight, because it was a "speciakl occasion.
[20:53] <steve_co> Somethingofherupper thigh
[20:53] <Blue> wonderland?
[20:53] <steve_co> there is also fiber evidence onthegarotten. It is currentlyt being gtested by the CBI andthey are tryingtomatch it to someoneoutside the family.
[20:54] <Jeralyn> would that be hair that doesn't match jonbenet?
[20:54] <steve_co> No. this is fiber evidence left behindon the garotte. Oneofthe people they are testingwas involved in porn.
[20:55] <jameson> Wouldn't that person have gotten rid of the evidence by now?
[20:55] <steve_co> the person left behind theevidence onthemurder weapon.
[20:56] <Jeralyn> Steve, where do you think the ransom note was written?
[20:56] <steve_co> inside thehouse.
[20:56] <nelda> Do pageants usually have surveillance cameras that might show up someone stalking a contestant?
[20:58] <steve_co> not toy knowledge, They see the pageants as very innocent things forthemostpart. just as Patsy always sayt. She is choosingnottolook at certain things. Shed was exposedd through a phiotographer to semi-nude pagenat pix and kept her daugher in hat situation.
[20:58] <Jeralyn> good question, Nelda!
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<Aquarius2> Steve, are you suggesting a parent helped get her out of the house and then she was returned dead with the garotte still in place and this same parent let somebody bring her back like that?
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