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  Linda Mason
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-02-2017, 11:42 AM - Forum: Ramsey family FRIENDS - Replies (1)

Charlevoix friend

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  From Linda McLean's book
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-02-2017, 11:41 AM - Forum: Glen and Susan Stine - Replies (6)

Next is Susan Stine, she met Patsy in Boulder when their sons were in kindergarten. They were friends before the murder, much closer friends after.

Susan admired Patsy not only for her organizational skills but her energy and willingness to put herself out for others. Shendescribed a time when Patsy had people in her home to make decorations for a school event. People were cutting and glueing and glittering and Burke was in charge of making the lemonade And serving cookies.

"Of course, the floor was a sticky mess - but Patsy didn't seem to care a bit. John was there, too, and seemed happy to open his house to this noisey , messy group. He obviously enjoyed this beehive of activity as he talked and laughed with the children.This was a home full of love and laughter, welcoming everyone who entered Iit. No one was a stranger to Patsy and John. "

"I never thought of her as vain." " Speaking of lack of vanity, I remember seeing her at school and home without any hair and I was Iinspired by her energy and enthusiasm. Chemotherapy treatments had rendered her bald, and she had wigs that she sometimes wore. But she said they were hot and uncomfortable, and that she didn't care what she looked like. She knew the children would accept her for what she was like on the inside, not what she looked like on the outside."

Susan wrote about Patsy's strength when fighting cancer, putting on a brave face as she knew she could die without seeing the children grow up. On one particular day, Susan watched her son playing with Burke and JonBenet and said a little prayernasking God to keep her son safe and let herbe with him for a long time. She wrote that she wishes now she said the same prayer for Patsy.

" I have known Patsy before, during and after her horrible loss. I have seen her in situations from profound happiness to the depths of grief and I know what a wonderful human being she is. I have watched John and Patsy endure the worst kind of cruelty imaginable, and yet their faith in God and in each other never waivers and their love for their family pulls them through. They have persevered with a dignity and courage that is seldom seen in this world. I am proud to be their friend; I will always be their friend."

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  John Andrew Ramsey
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-02-2017, 11:38 AM - Forum: other family members - Replies (6)

JonBenét's brother from John's first marriage - - McLean interview

John Andrew

I was very young when Dad met Patsy and I don't remember much about the first years. I know I was comfortable in both homes and, although I knew Patsy wasn't my mom, she had that role when I was with her and my dad. She encouraged us in our activities but never pushed us into anything. She was interested in all that I did , whether it was Boy Scouts, sports or school activities. I have good memories of growing up. It's not just the vacations and special times, but it's the general everyday things that made a loving and caring family relationship.

I am 10 years older than Burke, but we can still enjoy Play Station together! I was 14 years older than JonBenet and I loved her very much.... we made lemonade together. I know it is accurate to call them "half" brother and sister, but none of us has ever felt we have half a relationship. Burke and JonBenet are my brother and sister. They've never called me "half" brother, they call be "big" brother.

And I resent having to even talk about Dad and Patsy like this I don't see a need to defend our family. Why do we keep having to say we are a normal family? The outlandish, false things that are said are just what the media has made up about us. There is nothing previously in our lives to indicate that we are anything but a loving family yet we have to keep defending ourselves. Dad and Patsy are great parents. What else can I say?

JAR - 22 years

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  Regina Orlick
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-02-2017, 11:35 AM - Forum: Ramsey family FRIENDS - Replies (1)

Atlanta friend, interviewed by Linda McLean

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  Marcia Shurley
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-02-2017, 11:34 AM - Forum: Ramsey family FRIENDS - Replies (1)

More from McLean book, an Atlanta friend

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  Claudia McCutcheon
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-02-2017, 11:32 AM - Forum: Ramsey family FRIENDS - Replies (1)

Atlanta friend to both John and Patsy

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  Patsy's sister, Paulette
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-02-2017, 11:31 AM - Forum: other family members - No Replies

Paulette is called Polly by her sisters and her letter to Linda is a sweet peek into Patsy's tween years. Polly speaks of Nedra putting her three girls in the car, making a round of Senior Centers where the girls would perform. If Polly was old enough to have an act with a "talking dog", Patsy would have been 10-12 years old. Patsy would dance, Pam would sing and Polly had the animal act. Natural entertainers, comfortable in front of all kinds of people, these people enjoyed making others smile.

She notes the time when the family faced Patsy's serious cancer fight, tells how it was Patsy comforting her, telling Polly everything would be OK, to have faith.

She describes Patsy as a "wonderful mother and aunt, a best friend."

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  Patsy's Sister Pam Paugh
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-02-2017, 11:30 AM - Forum: other family members - Replies (2)

The book was originally intended to be a place for friends to speak out, but when Patsy's sisters heard about it, they wanted to be included so in Chapter 4, there is a lot from Pam and Paulette. Clearly they supported their sister and John. I will pick a few lines to share.

Pam said,
"Did we argue like most siblings? No. But it wasn't because I didn't try. It's just that it takes two to argue and Patsy wouldn't. From childhood she's been one of those peacemakers who seem to have the ability to calm a storm. I can't remember hearing her yell; I have often envied her inner peace. She is more than just polite; she doesn't like to see anyone upset and would rather give in than fight."

There are pages of memories, she clearly loved her sister, not just as a sister but as a friend.

On John, Pam writes, "He is non-judgemental, he is fair; he always looks for the positives in other people." "WE have gone through the best of times and the worst of times and I have witnessed what a truly remarkable man he is." "... a thoughtful and caring man."

She ends describing Patsy as "... the daughter every mother wishes she had, the wife every man dreams of, the mother every child deserves."

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  Betty Smith
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-02-2017, 11:29 AM - Forum: Ramsey family FRIENDS - Replies (1)

chaperone for pageant

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  Linda McLean
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-02-2017, 11:27 AM - Forum: Ramsey family FRIENDS - No Replies

She started out as Patsy's teacher and mentor, later the author of a book, "JonBenét's Mother - the Tragedy and the Truth".

Patsy had been crowned Miss West Virginia and was going to compete for Miss America. Linda McLean was her friend and helped her prepare for that event. Linda writes that "... she had SOMETHING SPECIAL and the judges saw it. She was as unpretentious and real as anyone you could meet. I think you can tell when someone is genuine, when her smile is sincere, when her heart is generous. That's what everyone who meets her thinks of Patsy."

Throughout the book, Linda is making a point:
"There is no dark side here -- no built up hostility or examples of deviant behavior. There's nothing to look back on which might cause someone to later become a monster. She was a talented young lady with a loyal family and good friends. This is just another chapter in the life of someone who was good and kind and genuine and generous and happy. And she made others happy."

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