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  info on his book
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-08-2017, 01:20 PM - Forum: The Last Christmas of JonBenet Ramsey - Replies (4)

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/jonbenet...TVC33AR4ET

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  Suzanne Savage
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-07-2017, 05:57 PM - Forum: Housekeepers, workers in the house - Replies (5)

Babysitter Burke liked, did a lot of arts and crafts with the kids.

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  OTHER HOUSEKEEPERS
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-07-2017, 05:45 PM - Forum: Housekeepers, workers in the house - Replies (17)

According to some police files I have access to, Between September 19, 1995 and December 11, 1996 - FOURTEEN different maids cleaned the Boulder home of John and Patsy Ramsey.    The Merry Maids would send teams of maids to work at the house together.  They cleaned the house on 9/19/1995, 9/26, 10/3, 10/10, 10/17, 10/19, 10/24.  Linda Hoffmann was hired late in 1995 (she had been a Merry Maid and left that job to work for the Ramseys)  but John and Patsy continued to have the Merry Maids in from time to time.

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  Jean Fortier
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-07-2017, 05:16 PM - Forum: Neighbors - Replies (1)

Lived two doors to the south, just past Diane brumfit

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  from the Huffington Post
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-06-2017, 09:07 PM - Forum: Grand Jury Indictments - Replies (1)

On Wednesday morning, Weld County Judge Robert Lowenbach ruled that the indictment will be released in response to a lawsuit filed by Daily Camera Reporter Charlie Brennan and the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press in September.

The entire document is about 18 pages, The Daily Camera reports, nine of which relate to John and Patsy Ramsey, but it’s unclear how many of those will be released to the public.

“It appears that the District Attorney, presumably acting at the discretion of the grand jury, prepared a series of possible charges regarding John Ramsey and Patricia Ramsey based on the fact that the child had died and that there was evidence that a sexual assault of the child had occurred,” Lowenbach wrote in Wednesday’s ruling.


Earlier in the week, John Ramsey said he opposed the release of the document unless the entire grand jury record was also opened for the public. The judge denied that request on Wednesday.



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OK, so the question is - - why would the judge not release the entire grand jury record if the SUSPECT or TARGET is willing to have it all public?  Is it to protect the witnesses?  The case?  Really?  After 20 years?  I personally think it is more to protect the persecutors who intentionally misled the grand jurors.    I am so sorry the jury did not issue a report as they did in the Tawana Brawley case in New York.

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  Unsolved Boulder crimes (2007)
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 02-06-2017, 08:44 PM - Forum: Boulder crimes - No Replies

Boulder County Unsolved Homicides

Boulder writer and historian and Camera columnist Silvia Pettem has compiled fact sheets on Boulder County cold cases for the Families of Homicide Victims and Missing Persons.

Howard Morton, the organization's director, shared that information with the Daily Camera.

Harold Nicholson, 18, was found dead May 23, 1970, beaten and stuffed into the trunk of a car he had bought the day before. It was parked three feet inside the Boulder County border near 134th Avenue and Sheridan Boulevard in Broomfield.

He had been married for five weeks and was reported missing when he failed to pick up his wife.

Gerald Cordner, 28, was shot in the back of the head, execution-style, on May 23, 1978, in what police called a drug-related robbery. Cordner was labeled a "large dealer" in cocaine with nationwide connections.

He was found two days later, slumped over a desk in the 95th Street farmhouse where he lived and apparently was trying some drugs when he died. Local drug users and dealers were reluctant to talk to police.

Sid Wells, 22, a University of Colorado journalism student from Longmont, was found shot to death Aug. 1, 1983, in an apartment his mother owned. The shotgun slaying also received worldwide exposure because he had been dating Robert Redford's daughter, Shauna, also a CU student.

The apartment's resident Thayne Smika, then 24, was arrested, then freed after the District Attorney's Office determined the evidence was not strong enough to prosecute.

Boulder police reopened the case in 1997, but the district attorney ruled police still didn't have sufficient evidence to arrest Smika, who has since vanished.

Margaret Hillman, 14, was reported missing in September 1983 after a party at Heil Ranch, north of Lefthand Canyon, where she lived with her family.

She had left the barn party about a mile from her home and told her parents she was going to ride home with another relative. It was determined she had not gone with any specific person, and her parents reported the next morning that she had not come home. Police thought she might have decided to walk home.

After an extensive search of the 5,000-acre ranch, officials found no trace of her. Almost a year later, in July 1984, her body was found in a ravine less than a mile from where she was last seen.

David Eugene Cox, 55, was found bludgeoned to death Jan. 4, 1994, in his mobile home at Boulder Meadows in North Boulder. He was last seen alive on New Year's Eve 1993.

An autopsy showed he died of massive head injuries caused by a blunt object, which police said was a cast-iron teakettle.

Cox had worked at Neodata and also had a business selling Indian jewelry and kachina dolls. He was divorced with no children and was survived by a brother.

JonBenet Ramsey, 6, was found dead Dec. 26, 1996, in the basement of her family's Boulder home on 15th Street. The slaying has attracted worldwide attention.

In August, a media circus descended on Boulder after John Mark Karr was arrested in connection with the decade-old case. He was exonerated after his DNA didn't match crime-scene evidence.

Susannah Chase, 23, a senior at the University of Colorado, died Dec. 22, 1997, a day after she was brutally beaten a block from her Whittier neighborhood home at 18th and Spruce streets.

Forensic testing five years later unearthed two new pieces of evidence: a fingerprint and a DNA sample pulled from a bloody bat found near the crime scene. But no one has been arrested in the case.

Frank Santos, 37, was fatally shot at 10:18 p.m. July 9, 2004, as he drove toward Boulder on U.S. 36 west of McCaslin Boulevard. A bullet fired through the driver's side window of his silver 1994 Chevrolet Cavalier hit him in the head.

Police looked for the driver of a large, dark SUV that was seen on the highway about the time of his death.

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  James Pennebaker
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-06-2017, 07:10 PM - Forum: Linguistics - Ransom Note - No Replies

Never heard of him but here he is with Aphrodite Jones.

http://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv...nsom-note/


He notes that in the beginning, the author writes saying "we" - but by the second paragraph the person is writing as a lone wolf.  The use of John's name in the last paragraph - Pennebaker feels the killer knew John fairly well.

He has two people writing the note - a man coming up with ideas and a female doing the writing.

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  chronological dates, times ETC listed in "We have your daughter"
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 02-06-2017, 03:50 PM - Forum: We Have Your Daughter - Replies (6)

I wanted to started a thread for the specific chronological  dates, times etc listed in this book.. Paula did a wonderful job documentating this! Good info to have!


(this will be updated as I get to it in the book)

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December 26,1996

5:52 am ~~ Patsy calls 911
6:00 am ~~First officer, Rick French arrives at the Ramsey home.
6:01 am ~~ Friend of the family arrives at the Ramsey home. The records never mention his wife arrival, but she appears a short while later.
6:02 am ~~Second officer, Sergeant Paul Reichenbach arrives at the home.
6:10 am and 6:20 am~~ More friends arrive after being called by Patsy. Two arrival times are listed for them in the police records.
6:10 and 6:16 am~~ Third officer, Karl Veitch arrives t the scene. Two arrival times are listed in the police records.
6:30 am~ First Victim Advocate arrives.
6:30 am and 7:00 am~~ Second Victim Advocate arrives, two arrival times noted.
6:40 am and 6:56 am~~ Fourth officer, Barry Weiss, arives. Two arrival times noted.
7:00 am and 7:10 am~~ Fifth officer, Sue Barklow, arrives Two arrival times noted
7:00 am~~ JonBenets brother, Burke is roused from his bed by his father and a friend and taken to a family friends home.
7:13 am~~ The Ramseys minster arrives.
8:10 am and 8:11 am, 8:30 am~~ Two detectives, Fred Patterson and Linda Arndt arrive. It is two hours and 18minutes two hours and19 minutes or two hours and 38 minutes after the 911 call. By protocol, the detectives are in charge of the scene.
9:15 am~~ Commander Sergeant Bob Whitson arrives
9:45 am~~ Whitson and one of the detectives leave
10:00 am~~ All officers expect Detective Ardnt leave the home. Nine civilians remain. JonBenet is still missing..

The wife of one of the Ramseys friend was never listed in the entry/exit log. The friend had been the first civilian to arrive, reportedly at 6:01 am. There is no indication in the log that his wife arrived, but she was in the Ramsey home early morning. Several witness statements were taken from her about being in the home, and she others have verified she was there.   

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  DR.OZ 2/7/2017
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-06-2017, 03:31 PM - Forum: What is in the news - staying up to date - Replies (8)

True Crime Tuesdays: Who Killed JonBenét Ramsey?
Airs 2/07/2017

Shocking new insight into one of the biggest unsolved murders in American history.
 It’s been 20 years since 6-year-old JonBenét Ramsey was murdered.
Today, we take a closer look at new theories surrounding her death.

Guests: Aphrodite Jones , John San Agustin , Elisabeth Leamy

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  Linda Hoffman Pugh in PMPT
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 02-06-2017, 03:15 PM - Forum: Housekeepers, workers in the house - Replies (1)

PMPT Page 198-202


Linda Hoffman-Pugh Story

"I was born in Lyons, Kansas, and my dad was a poor wheat farmer. I had three brothers and one sister. I'm the youngest, and one of my brothers is twenty-three years older than me. He's a welder, with his own construction business in Fort Morgan, Colorado.

When I was thirteen we moved to Fort Morgan because my dad wasn't doing well. He went to work for my brother as a ditch digger. My dad was an alcoholic. He died in 1986. My mother was forty-one when she had me. I have six living kids. Ten grandchildren. And a paper route.

I have my ladies, the women I work for. I have a doctor's wife in Greeley, and a lawyer. I was working for a bonded agency called Merry Maids when I met Patsy. I started with her one day a week. I was dumbfounded, the place was so huge. It was too much for one person. Soon we had four people, once a week.

Patsy was warm and kind. Just a sweet person. But she had a hard time keeping up the laundry. She was doing lots of charity work and was involved with her children's schooling.

Then I went to work for her three days a week, $72 a day. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I'd get there at 9:00 in the morning and be gone by 3:00. That's when my daughter Ariana gets out of school. Sometimes I worked for Patsy on Saturdays and holidays. She gave me a $300 bonus at the end of my first year. That was October 27, 1996

Patsy was afraid she wasn't going to live, that her cancer would come back and she'd never live to see the children grow up. She read a lot about illness and healing. Every three months she had a checkup. She believed if she prayed, everything would be all right. Patsy admired John. He accomplished a lot. She told me that when they started out they had nothing, and they worked themselves up to where they were now.

I first met JonBenet when she was in preschool. She was home, like, half a day. Patsy called her Jonnie B. I spent half my time picking up after her. She and her brother would just leave everything on the floor-their socks, their shoes, toys, books, just everything. They were never trained to put things away properly.

I always came in the side door, and I'd walk right into the kitchen and not know where to start. Dishes all over. If they had Ovaltine, the jar would still be open. I always had to wipe the peanut butter off the counter. "I think we ought to get a hamper," I told Patsy.

"Yeah, that sounds good," she answered. But we never got one.

"Linda is not here to pick up," Patsy's mother would say.

"She's here to clean. How do you expect her to do a good job if she's picking up?"

"OK, Mom, I'll work it out."

Patsy's clothes went into the laundry chute. I never had to pick up after John. Maybe once- a pair of shoes. Patsy changed purses once a week. She'd lay her purse ON THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE and I'd clean it out and put it in the closet. She had maybe forty of them , and even more pairs of shoes. I think the problem with the children was they didn't have any responsibility. They were spoiled.

Burke had this red Scout knife and always whittled. He'd never use a BAG or paper to catch the shavings. He'd whittle all over the place. I asked Patsy to have a talk with him. She answered, "Well I don't know what to do other than take the knife away from him." After Thanksgiving I took that knife away from him and hid it in the cupboard just outside JonBenet's room. That's how that problem was solved.

These weren't naughty children. They dressed themselves, and Patsy did JonBenet's hair. All her daughter's clothes were organized in drawers. Turtlenecks in one drawer, pants in another, nighties and panties in one, socks in another. Dates on all their underclothes.

"Just go away and leave me alone," JonBenet said when I tried to help her with her boots. Sometimes she acted like A SPOILED BRAT.

"No, don't you answer the door," she'd say when someone went to open it at a luncheon Patsy gave. "I'm answering the door."

JonBenet spent a lot of her time sitting on her bed watching Shirley Temple movies on her VCR. She loved them all.

She also loved being in pageants. If she didn't want to go, Patsy didn't make her. Nedra used to bring lots of things for JonBenet to wear. Nedra did most of the pageant planning. JonBenet would have to practice singing and dancing. Nedra and Patsy's sister, Pam would decorate JonBenet's shoes, her gloves, put sequins on her hats. Some dresses were made from scratch, but they had fun altering most things. They prepared differently for each pageant. Sometimes it would take a month. They were always reworking something.

JonBenet played a lot with Daphne, the White's little girl. They were real close. And Burke had his friends, the Walker and Stine children. When the Ramseys traveled, I started taking the children's dog, Jacques home with me. It would always yip, yip, yip, and I couldn't take it. Joe Barnhill, the elderly neighbor from across the street started watching Jacques, and they got attached to each other. before long the dog was always running across the street to the Barnhill's house. Jacques started staying over there, and when JonBenet wanted to see her dog, she went over and played with him.

In the summer of "96, JonBenet started wearing those diaper type underpants-Pull-Ups. She even wore them to bed. There was always a wet one in the trash. By the end of the summer, Patsy was trying to get her to do without them. Then JonBenet started wetting the bed again. Almost every day I was there, there was a wet bed. Patsy said she wasn't going to use Pull-Ups again. She just put a plastic cover on the bed. No big deal to her. By the time I'd come in the morning, Patsy would have all the sheets off the bed and in the laundry. JonBenet's white blanket would already be in the dryer. The Ramseys had two washer-dryers-one in the basement and a stackable unit in a closet just outside JonBenet's room.

Patsy started taking a painting class, and JonBenet drew a lot with crayons and MARKERS. People and flowers. They had a big easel, but most of the time JonBenet painted on a card table in the butler's kitchen. Patsy had her paints and brushes in a white paint tote. Sometimes she asked me to take her paints down to the basement. "I don't want to see it." On the day of the Ramseys' Christmas party, I took the paint tote downstairs.

Evenings were for the family. They did homework and had dinner together. Patsy worked on school projects with the kids. She was always doing something for the children on her computer. She read to them at bedtime. Sometimes she asked me to baby-sit if she couldn't find a sitter. Patsy spent a lot of time ALONE in the house while John was away on business. She never kept a baseball bat under the bed, or Mace. Never even set the alarm. She didn't like it, because it went off accidently and it drove the police crazy.

The last month I was there, NOTHING WAS DIFFERENT. Patsy went to New York with her family and some friends. JonBenet even ice skated at Rockefeller Center. When they came back, they got ready for another pageant. Patsy was always putting things off until the last minute.

On December 23, JonBenet was playing with makeup.

"JonBenet, you are not going anywhere with all that on," Patsy told her. "You take some of it off." JonBenet did.

At one o'clock she went to play with some friends and was back by four o'clock. Late that afternoon she didn't want to wear a dress for their Christmas party. Patsy got a little agitated. Finally, JonBenet put on a velvet one with short sleeves.

I stuck around with my daughter Ariana to see Santa. We hadn't planned to stay, so Ariana wasn't dressed up. Patsy gave my daughter a Christmas sweater and a vest. Even lent her a pair of her shoes. At the last minute, Patsy wrote a little verse about Ariana for Santa to read.

At 5:30 P.M. Santa showed up. By then the Barnhills, the Fernies, the Stines, Pinky Barber, and the Whites, who came with Priscilla's parents, had all arrived. maybe eight couples and their children. Most of the men gathered by the spiral staircase. John made drinks for everybody from the butler's kitchen. The kids played in the livng room by the big christmas tree. That's where Santa read his litle verses about everyone. This year, Mrs. Claus was there too, Santa looked kind of sick.

I was supposed to come back the next day, December 24, and clean up. I called Patsy and said I couldn't. I told her I had a fight with my sister and needed some money to pay the rent. I asked Patsy for a $2,000 loan. I told her I would pay it back $50 each week. She didn't hesitate. "Sure." Said she'd leave it for me on the kitchen counter for my next regular visit on December 27.

The more I think about it, JonBenet could not have been killed by a stranger. I didn't even know THAT ROOM was there. How could a stranger know to go there? How in the world did this happen?

-Linda Hoffman Pugh"

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