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  5/24/97 analysis
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 06:22 PM - Forum: Darnay Hoffman - No Replies

Darney Hoffman

From Letter to District Attorney Alex Hunter
May 24, 1997

1) Patsy’s possible participation in this crime is the single most significant clue to this murder.

2) Although research shows that fathers are more likely to kill members of their families (over 80% of the time), Patsy Ramsey fits the profile of older women who kill family members. Remember: until forty years ago most intrafamilial homicides were caused by women.

3) Older women are most likely to kill their younger daughters. Frequently, it is the prospect of divorce or impending single parenthood, coupled with suicidal depression that often leads these mother's to think and respond anomically (i.e., "amorally"), which means they grow to believe that killing their children will actually "benefit" them. (Remember Patsy Ramsey's Susan Smith-like remark during her first CNN interview on January 1, 1997 when she referred to JonBenét as perhaps being "better off" not living old enough to become a cancer victim, or to experience the other heartaches of adulthood? This is classic "anomic" thinking by a parent who has just murdered their child).

4) The events in Patsy's life just prior to the day of the murder are highly significant: i.e., an isolated and comparatively unhappy, depressed older woman, about to turn forty; whose sixteen year marriage to an older man was showing signs of stress; whose body had begun to betray her former good looks with a sex organ cancer; whose beautiful and talented daughter began serving as a bittersweet reminder of lost youth, and whose unhappiness and disappointment in her gilded cage existence a thousand miles from her family and hometown of Atlanta, Georgia are clear indicators that Patsy may have been harboring suicidally depressed thoughts.

5) The need for Patsy to establish some kind of control in her life made her relationship with her daughter paramount. After all, Patsy had already lost control over where she lived, her body, her marriage to John, and the general direction of her life. Controlling JonBenét was the single most important "safety valve" in Patsy's life.

6) Patsy began losing control over JonBenét as her daughter reached six years old. At that age, children are no longer interested in satisfying their parents emotional needs to the exclusion of their own. This is the age when many children become openly resistant to continuing with their ballet, or ice skating, or piano lessons which have often been "forced" on them by their overly ambitious parents. It's an age when they just want to be "kids."

7) JonBenét displayed the usual degree of resistance, even demonstrating it with bedwetting.

8) Patsy began sensing her daughter's increasing independence, but she was too emotionally vulnerable and needy to completely accept it.

9) JonBenét’s bedwetting just became another in a series of frustrations and disappointments, and, consequently, took on greater symbolic importance than it normally would have were Patsy not sensing that her own life was "cascading" out of control.

10) Losing control of her daughter might have presented an intolerable threat to Patsy's psychological survival and may have even contributed to suicidal thinking on Patsy's part.

11) Suicidal thinking is the most common and prevalent emotional component in female homicides of family members, especially involving their younger children.

12) Although the precipitating event of the night of JonBenét’s murder remains unclear, the injury to JonBenét’s head is more constant with a parent who flew into a sudden rage, than with a parent involved in a pattern of sex abuse that resulted in an accidental homicide.

13) Patsy Ramsey's psychological profile does more to explain why she was more likely to go into a sudden rage (probably at the loss of control over JonBenét) than John Ramsey, who, by all accounts, was an absentee parent with little or no psychological investment in controlling his daughter's behavior that we know about. John had had three children by a prior marriage, and so had "been there, done that" as a parent. Sociological studies of affluent families show the husbands as assuming the role of "sole" financial support, with mothers assuming the more traditional roles as the exclusive arbiters of the children's behavioral development. While their husbands measure their success and status among their peers with wealth, these wives measure their status and success by how well they raise and control their children's behavior.

14) If Patsy Ramsey did, in fact, strike her daughter on the head with a blunt object in a blind rage, what would she have done next? Answer: What she had always done in the past, which was to go to John and have him "save" her.

15) "Saving" women like Patsy is what John Ramsey is all about. A man who made a fortune by creating a hands-on business, which he started on his kitchen table, and which he also "micro-managed," would be accustomed to playing Pygmalion to Patsy's Eliza Doolittle. As a former naval officer and airplane pilot, John Ramsey sees himself as calm and experienced in crisis management -- in fact, he prides himself in it.

16) One has only to remember how Richard Nixon engineered the Watergate cover-up (a crime he probably didn't initiate) to realize that certain personalities relish the challenge of being able to meet the demands of orchestrating a "cover-up" to "save" their subordinates, who are frequently people they feel morally superior to.

17) Since the single most important element in a parent/child homicide is the issue of CONTROL; and since the parent feels that they have lost control of their child, whether real or imagined, this would explain why the FBI claims that children between the ages of 0-2 are most often killed for uncontrolled crying and screaming ("shaken baby" syndrome), and children between the ages of 2-6 are killed for chronic bedwetting or lose of bowel control.

18) Who in the Ramsey household had the greatest "control issues" in their lives? John or Patsy?

19) The idea that John Ramsey "accidentally" killed JonBenét by strangling her in a strange sex-game ritual, or killed her to keep from being "exposed" by her threatening "to tell mommy", is the least likely of all the scenarios involving a family member being responsible for the murder. As Star Trek's Mr. Spock was so fond of saying: "It's possible, but not probable."

20) Studies show that incest victims are rarely physically hurt or killed by the molesting parent. Several of these studies show that parent pedophiles are remarkably non-violent.

21) The most likely scenario, assuming the injury sequence is one in which the head injury occurred first and the strangulation resulting from the staging occurred later, is one in which Patsy Ramsey assaulted her daughter in a fit of rage involving a "control issue" triggered by JonBenét’s chronic bedwetting, which then resulted in Patsy running to John and begging him to "save" her. John then foolishly agreed to help his wife by "staging" a horrific ritual kidnap/killing, thinking his daughter already dead from the blow to her head. Ironically, John's application of the ligature to JonBenét’s neck actually became the technical cause of JonBenét’s death in the coroner's report -- a completely unforeseen and unintended result -- thereby resulting in John's being "upgraded" from a mere accomplice after-the-fact, to the actual "murderer." When John learned what had occurred when the coroner's report was released several days later, he couldn't believe how far down into a hole he had buried himself.

22) Any theory of this crime, which involves Pasty as the "event initiator", is further borne out by the fact that the Boulder police and FBI have completely failed to drive a wedge between the two parents -- a common occurrence in solving domestic homicides (e.g., Joel Steinberg and Hedda Nussbaum). Most police clearances of domestic homicides involve a confession or eyewitness testimony by the "innocent" spouse. Neither Patsy nor John can give the other up -- even if one wanted to -- because they are now both equally culpable.

23) Psychologically, both Ramseys regard, and believe, the event to be "accidental." They are sincere in their expressions of love for their daughter and in their sorrow for her death. Like O.J. Simpson, the Ramseys don't believe "they" have killed anyone. "They" are not capable of murder. Some other "they", serving as their evil twins, or alter egos, reflexively, and defensively, created this accident and then covered it up, to prevent an uncaring world from condemning them. Why should a person's whole life be defined by a momentary loss of control -- to be branded as a murderer for all time, despite the years of good "works" and Christian deeds? Why, indeed, the Ramseys ask. They undoubtedly feel that they are suffering enough already as the result of the enormous public scrutiny and loss of reputation in the community.

They also miss their daughter terribly, suffering enormous guilt and loss, the way most parents do when their children die prematurely from disease or accidents. Parents whose children die from their negligent care of them frequently don't go to jail. Why should the Ramseys?

So, in order to move this case to the next step, your office is probably going to have to take a page out of the prosecution's book in the Joel Steinberg/Hedda Nussbaum case. You may remember that the New York City police arrived in that case only to find a comatose six-year old girl dying on the living room floor of the apartment of a multi-millionaire criminal defense attorney and his common law wife. The DA had no forensic evidence, only two adults, each capable of committing the crime.

What to do? The DA Morgenthau arrested them both (sometimes "One Degree of Separation" between suspects in separate jail cells is more potent than a ton of DNA evidence). As usually happens in these cases, after her arrest, Hedda Nussbaum, with the help of her attorney Barry Scheck, gave Joel up, something she would never have done had she not been arrested and charged with murder. The DA gambled and won. It was worth it.

The only conceivable prosecution scenario that should break this case open is a grand jury indictment of the ransom note writer, who is then arrested and jailed on first degree felony murder charges, with no possibility of bail for first degree murder in Colorado. Time to reflect while in the confines of a jail cell should do the trick.

Well, that's it. If you would like to discuss this further, I'd be happy to do so.

Good luck,
you're really going to need it.

Very truly yours,

Darnay Hoffman

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  3/11/97 - Lindbergh letter to DA
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 06:21 PM - Forum: Darnay Hoffman - No Replies

March 11, 1997

Re: The Lindbergh Kidnapping Case & JonBenet Ramsey

Dear Mr. Hunter:

I am a criminal and civil defense attorney in New York City. I recently defended "Subway Gunman" Bernhard Goetz in a civil trial in New York, and I am a former law student of Barry Scheck (Cardozo '82).

I have been following your investigation into the Ramsey case with great interest and I would like to bring certain similarities between the Lindbergh Kidnapping case and the Ramsey case to your attention:

First, and most important, every member of the Lindbergh household, with the exception of Charles and Anne, were under suspicion from the moment the police began their investigation. With what we know about infant homicides today, Lindbergh would have been a prime suspect himself. And for very good reasons:

1) When the Lindbergh baby was first discovered missing, both Anne Morrow Lindbergh, and the nursemaid Betty Gow, immediately suspected Charles Lindbergh. In fact, Betty Gow's first words to Lindbergh were "Colonel, do you have the baby? Please don't fool me!"

2) Anne Morrow Lindbergh, in her March 2, 1932 letter to her mother-in-law (a letter she prefaces with the warning that she "Better destroy after reading"), observes that "She (Betty Gow) thought C. (Charles Lindbergh) had taken the baby for a joke. I did (also), until I saw his face." (Lindbergh was never able to give police a complete account of his whereabouts on the day of the kidnapping. He mysteriously "forgot" to attend an dinner given by NYU with Lindbergh scheduled as a guest of honor, or why he arrived home "early" just prior to the time when his son was kidnapped. Lindbergh claimed, vaguely, that he "couldn't remember" the events of that day.)

3) Two months before the March 1st kidnapping, Charles Lindbergh had played a cruel practical joke on his wife, and the nursemaid, by hiding his son Charles Jr. in a closet for twenty minutes while announcing melodramatically that someone had kidnapped the baby. Lindbergh watched with silent glee at the sheer terror and panic as members of his household frantically tried to find the child. Finally, Lindbergh triumphantly produced the baby from it's hiding place.

4) Lindbergh, himself, was the one who discovered the ransom note, even though the place where he had "found" it -- on the window sill in the baby's bedroom -- had already been searched by his wife and the nursemaid.

5) Lindbergh inexplicably allowed the crime scene to become contaminated by both the press and the police by insisting they follow him around the grounds en masse, trampling all over footprints that had been left in the mud around the house. Remarkably, Lindbergh did this despite the great show he made of waiting patiently for nearly two hours for a police technician to arrive with fingerprint gear before opening the ransom note.

6) Lindbergh tried to prevent his household staff from being questioned by police or subjected to polygraphs.

7) Upon discovering his son was "kidnapped," the first person Lindbergh called before calling the police was his lawyer.

8) Lindbergh tried to divert the police investigation by bringing in outside "investigators", while insisting that the kidnapping was the work of "outsiders," i.e., professional kidnappers. (Mob boss Frank Costello was so unimpressed with this theory that he advised Lindbergh to forget about paying any ransom money because, in his opinion, the child was "already dead" and that the kidnapping had all the ear-marks of an amateur at work.)

9) Lindbergh refused to allow the FBI to investigate the case, preferring, instead, to allow the inexperienced New Jersey State Police -- headed by Col. Norman Schwartzkopf (father of "Stormin' Norman) who had no prior police experience except as a floor walker at Bambergers department store (he was politically appointed to the New Jersey State troopers) -- to handle the investigation. Schwartzkopf made a mess of the investigation (which was the general idea).

10) J. Edgar Hoover, along with some of his agents, believed that Lindbergh was lying about what he knew about the circumstances surrounding his son's kidnapping. Later on, Hoover also came to believe that Lindbergh lied about his voice identification of Hauptmann as "cemetery John." Moreover, a Bronx grand juror hearing the case asked, rather incredulously, how it was possible for Lindbergh to be certain he could identify Hauptmann 's voice from hundreds of feet away and remember it two years later when Hauptmann was finally captured as the "kidnapper." Hoover was so frustrated by Lindbergh's "stonewalling" that he encouraged Congress to pass the Federal "Lindbergh" Kidnapping law so the FBI would have jurisdiction to investigate. (Hoover was so suspicious of Lindbergh and his lying that he opened an FBI surveillance file on him which he eventually shared with Franklin Roosevelt, who suspected Lindbergh of pro-Nazi sympathies.)

11) Lindbergh refused to allow the New Jersey State Police, or anyone from law enforcement, to listen in on any phone calls he received concerning the kidnapping that might contain clues.

12) Lindbergh tried to prevent the Treasury Department from recording and "marking" any of the kidnap ransom money so that it could not be traced afterward.

13) Lindbergh let members of the underworld have copies of the kidnap ransom note, even though the police wanted to hold back giving out the unique kidnapper's "signature", which, police knew, would be a vital clue in determining whether or not future communications from the kidnapper were legitimately from him, and not from the thousands of hoaxers plaguing the case.

14) When the Lindbergh baby was eventually found in May of 1932 (two months after the kidnapping), police discovered that someone had hurriedly dumped the body into a shallow ditch within sight of the Lindbergh home. Had Lindbergh not prevented a ten mile search for his son by police bloodhounds when the child was first discovered missing, authorities would have known from the beginning that the baby had died within minutes of having been "kidnapped," and would have treated the matter as a homicide instead of as a "kidnapping." As result, Lindbergh would not have been an anxious parent hoping to effect the return of his son, but would, instead, have been the parent of a murder victim, and, therefore, unable to personally direct or control a police investigation into a homicide.

15) The initial autopsy of the Lindbergh baby was so sloppy that police could never really be sure of the cause of death. In fact, the child might have been suffocated first, and then hit on the head, in order to cover up the real cause of death. One recent theory of the kidnapping has Lindbergh repeating his "practical joke" of hiding the baby, only to have it go horribly wrong (the child suffocates and is then bashed in the head to look as if "accidentally" dropped out a window by an anxious "kidnapper" making an all too hasty get-away on an awkwardly constructed ladder used to gain entrance to the second story bedroom window.)

16) Lindbergh immediately ordered the cremation of his son without any further tests or examinations by qualified forensic pathologists (remember how "careful" Lindbergh was with respect to fingerprints on the ransom note? Was that because Lindbergh knew there would be no fingerprints?) Michael Baden, in the October 1983 Journal of the Forensic Sciences, stated: "The fractured-skull diagnosis was wrong for two reasons: there was no fracture, just a separation of the unfused skull bones which is normal in all babies, and there was no brain damage. It's the brain damage, not the fracture, that would cause death. The baby was probably smothered at the time of the kidnapping to keep him from crying out and alerting the family and the nurse who were all in nearby rooms."

17) Whoever "kidnapped" the Lindbergh baby was intimately familiar with the large, rambling Lindbergh estate home. The kidnap ladder was placed directly under the child's second story bedroom window -- remarkably, there were no ladder marks under the other windows, which means the kidnapper was incredibly "lucky" to find the right window on the first try without trial and error, or he knew the right window from some prior knowledge. The shutters to the baby's bedroom windows, moreover, were the only ones that couldn't latch closed from the inside and therefore would not need to be forcibly opened.

18) Apparently, the kidnapper was not afraid of detection. What else could explain a "kidnapping" which took place sometime between 7:30 and 9:30 PM in a house full of people and servants, fully lit, with someone quite capable of walkng in on the kidnapper at any given moment? The "kidnapper," furthermore, was not worried about the child screaming or making any noise (was that because the child would not cry if the "kidnapper" was someone it already knew?).

19) The Lindbergh family Boston terrier, Wahgoosh, was reported to be a neurotically nervous dog who barked at any strange sound or person -- that night, not a peep.

20) The Lindbergh family never stayed at their home during the weekdays, preferring, instead, to stay with Anne Morrow's parents, an hour away in Englewood New Jersey, which was closer to New York City where Charles worked during the week. The decision to remain at their home a day or two longer was made at the last minute and could only have been known by members of the immediate family and household staff. Professional kidnappers "staking out" the Lindberghs would have known from the meticulous routine kept by Charles that the family could be expected to be staying with Anne's family, and the country home where the baby was kidnapped. This was why the police insisted for over two years that the kidnapping was an "inside job." Even Hauptmann's defense attorneys argued that there was no way a Bronx carpenter could have known what the Lindberghs were doing, at the last minute, two hours away in the backwoods of New Jersey, to then rush out there and kidnap Charles Jr..

21) Police investigating the crime noted that there were no fingerprints of any kind in the baby's bedroom. None. Not even fingerprints normally associated with the baby, his mother, the nursemaid, household staff, or even Charles. One police officer remarked afterwards that it appeared to him as if someone had purposely wiped down the whole room to remove it of any fingerprints -- a task too dangerously time consuming for a stranger and would-be "kidnapper."

In short, the Lindbergh and Ramsey cases have one very important theme in common -- they are both kidnap "hoaxes" perpetrated by the parties really responsible, who must "hide in plain sight" in the hopes of throwing off the police. In the first case, involving Lindbergh, the hoax was successful; in the second, involving the Ramseys, onlly for a time. Yet, in each case, the "kidnapper" was able to successfully bring about a breakdown of normal police procedure into what should have been routine domestic homicide investigations. Instead, the police were tricked into believing the crime to be a kidnapping, instead of a murder, with devastating consequences for the destruction and contamination of potential crime scene evidence.

If you would like to consult with me further on this case I would be more than happy to speak to you. You are doing a very difficult investigation under nearly impossible circumstances. The fact that my former law professor Barry Scheck has agreed to consult with you makes me even more eager to help.

Good luck on this case.

Very truly yours,

Darnay Hoffman

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  theft from home?
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 05:42 PM - Forum: The House at 755 15th Street, Boulder, CO - No Replies

Quote: 1997-04-30: Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Steve Thomas, Tom Trujillo

Patsy Ramsey Interrogation by Steve Thomas, Tom Trujillo
Also present, Pat Burke, Bryan Morgan, Pete Hoffstrom, Jon Foster
April 30, 1997 - Boulder, Colorado

ST: Did you ever report, previously I’ve been told that you have a video camcorder stolen from the home.

PR: Yeah.

ST: Was that ever reported to the police?

PR: I don’t remember whether it was or not. That was, I don’t know if it was. I mean, we discovered that about the time we were having carpet done and that’s when I came back from chemo and all that, and I don’t think it was, in the sale of things, you know, all that important. I must don’t remember. I remember we thought it was probably the carpet people, but you can’t prove it. I mean, we’ve lost so many cameras and…

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  Brett Sawyer and Lawrence Smith
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 05:29 PM - Forum: Names to remember - Replies (2)

Brett Allen Sawyer (Selling Photos Printed In The Globe)

Photo lab staffer, ex-cop arrested in picture leak
Inquiry not over, Sheriff says
Camera Staff Writer
Thursday, January 16, 1997
Authorities arrested a Photo Craft Laboratories employee and a former local law enforcement officer Wednesday in connection with the sale of crime scene photos of JonBenet Ramsey to the Globe tabloid.
Officials charged Lawrence Shawn Smith, 36, a printer at the Boulder photography company, with two felonies - theft of more than $400 and tampering with physical evidence - as well as two misdemeanors - obstructing government operations and false reporting to authorities.

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Lawrence Shawn Smith
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Brett Allen Sawyer
Officials also charged Brett Allen Sawyer, 38, a former Lafayette police officer, a Boulder County sheriff's deputy in 1980-81 and a private investigator for the past 16 years, with obstructing government operations.
Investigators booked the two men at the Boulder County Justice Center on Wednesday and released them. Boulder County Sheriff George Epp announced the arrests - reported in Wednesday's Daily Camera - at a news conference Wednesday afternoon.
The department has not completed the investigation, Epp added.
"It's possible that they'll arrest (someone else) very soon," a source said.
The Globe published five of the crime-scene pictures, including photos of a garrote and a rope around one of JonBenet's wrists, on Monday. As part of an agreement reached Tuesday, the
Globe will return the photos, although they hadn't arrived Wednesday. But, under the settlement, the tabloid can publish the pictures again.
Officials shot the photographs after JonBenet's mother, Patsy, found a ransom note about 5:30 a.m. Dec. 26. Approximately eight hours later, John Ramsey, JonBenet's father, and a friend discovered the former Little Miss Colorado strangled in the basement of the family's home at 755 15th St.
The newspaper hired Sawyer to search for facts surrounding the 6-year-old beauty queen's death, officials said.
"Like many media organizations, the Globe was interested in obtaining as much information about the Ramsey murder as fast as it could," said Peter Schild, Sawyer's attorney.
Sawyer told Smith he represented the Ramseys' independent investigative team, according to the arrest report. Sawyer then obtained the photographs and provided them to the Globe in about four hours, sources said.
The 1.3 million-circulation, Boca Raton, Fla.-based tabloid paid the men about $5,500, a $5,000 bonus and $500 in fees and expenses, according to the arrest report. Smith received about $200, Epp said.
"Sawyer allegedly went to Smith for help," a source close to the investigation said. "It's just a sick situation that's ironic, too, because Sawyer's 6-year-old son is a first-grader at the same school (High Peaks/Martin Park Elementary) that JonBenet went to. Even so, it really does seem like an astonishingly low amount of money for the pictures."
Generally, magazines do not disclose the prices they pay for photos because it would betray a competitive advantage. But one source said packages of exclusive news photos could result in several magazines bidding against each other, fetching as much as $20,000.
"They really can get a lot of money for certain pictures," said another photo agent. "That's why it's just hard to believe that the Globe paid so little for these pictures because they're authentic photographs that nobody else has."
A photographer familiar with the youth pageant circuit said that if the two men sold the pictures to the Globe for $5,500, "they were nitwits." Some publications would have easily paid more than $10,000 for the coroner's photographs, he said.
If convicted of all charges, Smith could face up to 8 years in prison and more than $600,000 in fines. Sawyer's possible penalties include a maximum six-month jail sentence and a $750 fine, Epp said.
Sawyer will appear for a hearing in Boulder County Court at 9 a.m. Feb. 27. Officials have not set a court date for Smith.
"These two people were acquainted with each other before this incident occurred," Epp said.
Upon learning that the Globe would publish the pictures, Sawyer contacted Schild, the attorney said. Schild then called the Boulder County Sheriff's Department, according to arrest reports.
"Brett feels terrible about his role in this and has done everything possible to make things right," Schild said. "He suggested donating the money to a memorial charity for JonBenet, perhaps at the school she attended.
"In an interview, Brett said he believed the photos would never be printed because that's what the Globe told him," Schild said. "The Globe told him the photos were only going to be used for a review by their own coroner consultant. It is common for media to review material that might be too offensive for public consumption," Schild said.
Meanwhile, Photo Craft presi dent Roy M. McCutchen said in a statement that he has fired Smith, who had worked for the company since 1987. McCutchen described Smith as "a trusted staff member who had been producing work for the coroner's office for many years."
McCutchen also apologized to the community.
"I am in a state of shock," McCutchen said. "In the 21 years I have been the senior operating officer of Photo Craft, nothing like this has ever happened. Our systems and relationships have evolved over years and have been built on the idea that people are basically honorable."
The publication of the photos also alarmed Boulder County Coroner Dr. John Meyer. The office has worked exclusively with Photo Craft since 1990 and paid the company about $1,300 to process film in 1996, he said. And while officials do not believe other publications have acquired any of the coroner's 113 photos, the incident has prompted the office to examine its photo processing policies, Meyer said.
"We've asked the Sheriff's Department to ... offer suggestions on how we might improve our procedures," Meyer said.
Those changes might include monitoring the film developing process, officials said.
"Right now, no one watches the film after the coroner's office drops it off," a source said. "Having someone watching this whole event might help. Or the coroner might need to develop only the necessary pictures as opposed to all of the film. We just need to look at a range of options so the family doesn't have to go through pain like this again."
Staff writer Elliot Zaret contributed to this report.

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  The 1994 Christmas tour
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 05:21 PM - Forum: The House at 755 15th Street, Boulder, CO - Replies (1)

      Photo taken in second floor playroom

Quote: 1994-11-29: Boulder Historical Tour

The Denver Post
November 29, 1994



Historic Boulder's 11th annual Historic Homes for the Holidays Tour starts Saturday. Seven homes in the University Hill neighborhood will be featured. Once a cow pasture on an isolated hill above Boulder, development began here in the 1890s, with lots selling for $ 9.22 each. Today, the neighborhood features a variety of architectural styles and mature trees.

Three of the homes were designed by Boulder's first architect and master-builder, Glen Huntington. The earliest is a finely crafted Tudor Revival at 715 12th St., built in 1923, with cathedral ceilings in the living and dining rooms. Owner Emily Lowrance calls her place "a Christmas house" because she used shades of red and green.

Huntington's 1930 design is a Jacobean/Elizabethan residence at 1500 Baseline Road, with steeply pitched roofline, gables with half-timbering, and a spacious living room.

The last of this group, a Colonial Revival, was built in 1940 at 701 Seventh St., with gabled dormers and paneled windows. A large addition was built by Cindy and Charles Jones, the owners for 12 years.

A 1927 Tudor house at 755 15th St. is being restored to its original elegance by Patsy and John Ramsey, who also are opening it to light and air. A spacious master suite with dormers has gone into the unused attic, and a sun porch became a dining room.

A 1931 Jacobean/Elizabethan home at 1427 Cascade Ave. is enlivened with mementos from the career and travels of former U.S. State Department diplomat Robert Goold and his wife Libby. A sturdy Foursquare home at 845 12th St. was built in 1908, and has recently been given a window-filled addition by new owners Arnold Jacobson and Victoria Johns.

The 1935 Colonial Revival at 770 12th St. also has been given an addition - a large sun room and master bath by owners Carol Francipane and Donald Lococo. They also modernized the kitchen from the studs out.

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Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 04:56 PM - Forum: Atlanta burglary - unrelated to murder - Replies (1)

John Ramsey Locked Up During Botched Robbery
Atlanta Police Investigating At Scene

John Ramsey surprised a burglar in his Atlanta home Tuesday morning and fought with the man before the intruder fled, police said.

Ramsey called 911 at about 11:12 a.m., EST and said that he had scuffled with a 6-foot "tall black man" in dark clothing during a robbery at his house.

Ramsey told investigators that when he returned to his house from Home Depot around 11 a.m., he found a man going down the stairs with two suitcases in hand.

"There was a car in the driveway and the doors were all locked upstairs ... so I couldn't figure who was here, if anybody," Ramsey said during a brief interview with reporters.

When Ramsey asked the man what he was doing, the alleged intruder said that he was completing home renovations. Ramsey said that he did not believe him and when he attempted to call police, he was attacked.

Atlanta police Lt. Michael Fuller told reporters that Ramsey was choked, scratched and then subdued.

When asked by reporters after the incident if he was scared for his life, Ramsey said, "I got to thinking this may not be so good. As it got towards the end ... I got to thinking that this might not end up too good."

The alleged robber took Ramsey's wallet, forced Ramsey into a bathroom, tied the door from the outside, and continued to ransack the house, police said.

When Ramsey broke free from the bathroom, he apparently ran to his gun vault and grabbed a shotgun, but the intruder had already fled, an Atlanta newspaper reported.

Other than receiving several scratches on his face and bruises on his neck, Ramsey was unharmed.

Guns and other valuables were believed to have been stolen from the house.

"We didn't have a lot. It appeared that he took some clothes. He took my wallet in the fight, and a few other odds and ends," Ramsey said, as his wife Patsy, stood at his side.

Police continued Tuesday afternoon to search 4000 block of Paces Ferry Road for the intruder.

"So far, we have a vague description, even though Mr. Ramsey is certain that he will be able to identify this person if he sees him again," a police spokesman said at the scene. "We're in the process of getting things together. We will do a composite later today. Of course, we are looking at other some other evidence in the house that might lead to this person's identity."

Ramsey is expected be at the Atlanta police headquarters later Tuesday to help officers put together a composite and to take a look at police photos
"We can nail him. I think he picked the wrong house to burglarize," Ramsey said.

"He was about 6 foot 1, probably 30 years old, plus or minus, medium-brown skin, short hair, trim, well-dressed. (He) drove a light-gray bronze-colored like a Chevy Cavalier-kind of car. (He) was well-spoken," Ramsey added.

Patsy Ramsey returned to their home from Bible study at about one hour after the alleged robbery occurred.

The Ramseys have been under suspicion since their 6-year-old daughter JonBenet was found beaten and strangled in their Boulder, Colo., home on December 26, 1996.

The couple insist that they're innocent and claim that an intruder is responsible. A year-long probe into the murder of the child beauty queen led to no indictment and no arrests.

The Ramseys moved to their two-story Mediterranean-style Atlanta home, located in the suburb of Vinings, Ga., after the slaying.

John Ramsey told police Tuesday morning that he is unsure whether the alleged robber knew the identity of the homeowners. Police said that do not believe that the murder of JonBenet Ramsey and Tuesday's robbery was connected.

Quote:2001-02-20: Ramsey Atlanta House Robbery Missing Items

Items missings:

1. A Compac Lap Top computer, with power adapter pulled out of the wall taken from second floor office area.

2. Two duffel bags, one kelly green canvas with "Nashville Jet" embodied on the side. The other was a black leather/vinyl gym bag that said "Capitol City Club" on the side. The green bag was stuffed full and the black bag was about half full.

3. Jewelry from Patsy's Jewelry box was gone.

4. One small ring

5. One wedding "style" ring, flat wide band with a crest on top.

6. Burglar looked at the shot guns John Ramsey had but he didn't take any.

7. Burglar opened a gun safe located in Mr. Ramsey's dressing room closet. Mr. Ramsey said the safe was not locked.

8. A gray metal box containing personal papers and a white cardboard box containing white sheets of paper with the inscription in pink cursive "JonBenet" was also on the floor in front of the safe.

9. A 12 gauge double barrel Parker shotgun, which was broken down in a leather carrying case, was also on the floor

10. Wallet described as alligator black shiny contained John Ramsey's Georgia driver's license, Blockbuster Video card, two VISA cards, one from Merrill Lynch, and an American Express and Rich's credit card plus $300 to $400 cash in wallet.

11. John Ramsey also said he was missing papers, namely aircraft logs that were in one of the bags that the suspect carried out.

Quote:2001-02-21: Statement of John Ramsey to Atlanta Police Department

Statement of John Ramsey

On 2-20-01 Probably about 10:45 AM I came home frome a quick trip to Home Depot and there was a car in my driveway. It was a bronze gray Chevy or Ford, it was an American car from the 1980's. I went in the garage door, it was locked. I unlocked it and went in. I looked in the car from a distance and did not see anybody in the car. Checked the front door of the house, it was locked. So I was not sure who are where this person was that drove the car.

Heard steps coming down from the second floor and went into the front entry hall and met a man in the hall who had just come down from the second floor. He was probably 6'1, 30 years old or there abouts, black male, medium brown skin, stocky build, not heavy, well dressed, composed and he was carrying two bags that I recognized as mine. I asked him who he was, he said he was a workman. I said "How did you get in". He said the door was unlocked. I said what are you doing with the bags. He said those are my tools. He asked who I was. I told him I owned the place.

I tried to take one of the bags form him. He would not release it. I told him I was going to call the police. I turned around to go to the phone. He grabbed me from behind around the neck. He said "Are you going to let me go". We scuffled for four to five minutes. I was trying to get free and get out of the front door, because we were in front of the house. I did get the door opened, but was unable to break free to get out.

At that point I realized that I needed to let him have his way so that he would leave. During the struggle, the socks that he was wearing on his hands, came off, but he was quick to put them back on. He put my arm behind my back, grabbed my collar and pushed me into the first floor bath and told me he would not hurt me if I stayed in there.

He tied the door closed with one of my coats which was lying near by. He questioned me about when my wife was coming back. Asked me where there was more money and jewelry in the house. I told him there was none. He asked me that a couple more times. During the struggle he had taken my wallet. I thought I heard the front door open quietly, and I waited a minute, called out to him and got no response so I

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quickly got out of the bathroom and called 911. I had gone upstairs and got a shot gun because I was not sure where the guy was.

Question and Answer session conducted by Det. Tarvares:

Q: Approximately how long were you at the Home Depot?
A: Probably thirty minutes.

Q: Was the vehicle parked in your drive way, wa it bronze or gray?
A: I would say it was kind of a dirty white gray. Kind of silver gray. It had a emblem that was flat on the grill. It had gray cloth interior. When I looked to see who was in the car, I notied that.

Q: From the time you saw the suspect, approximately how long you think he was in your home?
A: About fifteen minutes.

Q: Do you have anything that you want to add to this statement?
A: He was dressed casual, but neat. Dark slacks, dark tennis shoes I think. He had a jacket on, it was dark brown or black. He had a knit golf shirt on which had horitzonal green. Close hair cut. He looked well groom. He was very composed, well spoken.

Q: After the robbery, what did you notice missing?
A. A Compac Lap Top computer, with power adapter pulled out of the wall. Two duffel bags, one kelly geen canvas with Nashville Jet embodied on the side. The other was a black leather/vinyle gym bag that said Capitol City Club on the side. The green bag was stuffed full and the black bag was about half full. Patsy's

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Jewelry was gone out of the jewelry box. It was mostly costume jewelry. A small gold ring, wedding style ring, flat wide band with a crest on the top. He looked at the shot guns that I had, but did not take any.

Q: Did the suspect have a weapon, or did he lead you to believe he had a weapon?
A: I did not see a weapon, nor did he say that he had one.

Q: Did the suspect speak with an accent?
A: It was noticeable articulate and calm.

End of statement.... 9:45 HR

March 13, 2001
His Story is Full of Holes! -- Insider says

STORY HEADLINE: John Ramsey Story Full of Holes -- says insider DID JONBENET'S DAD FAKE LATEST BREAK-IN?......just like little beauty's murder scene


By Art Dworken

John Ramsey faked the recent break-in at his Atlanta house, charges an insider close to the still-unsolved murder of the Ramseys' 6-year-old daughter JonBenet.

Ramsey claims he was attacked and beaten by a burglar he surprised in his Atlanta home.

"But when you look at the holes in the story about this alleged break-in, it looks like it was staged in the same way the murder of JonBenet appears to have been staged to mislead cops toward an intruder," says the insider.

"This break-in never really happened."

Ironically, the incident occurred just days after the Ramseys learned they'll have to testify under oath about their daughter's 1996 murder as part of a $50 million defamation lawsuit filed against them by a Boulder, Colo., detective.

The trial will take place in Atlanta, the jurors will be from Atlanta -- and publicity about the break-in will almost certainly affect their perception of the Ramseys, says the insider.

"The timing of this latest 'break-in' is exquisite," the insider says. "While Lin Wood, the Ramseys' lawyer, is appearing on the Today show, John claims he's being attacked in his home hundreds of miles away almost at the same time.

"Now John can argue that: See, once again he's been victimized by an intruder. But as far as we know, he's the only witness to this recent break-in and assault, which is one reason I suspect this was just more spin-doctoring to draw sympathy to him and his wife and deflect attention from the truth.

"Even an arrest doesn't eliminate suspicion that this was a set-up."

According to the insider, the break-in story is full of holes:

** In one version he was forced inside a closet and the door then blocked with a grandfather clock. But another report has him being forced into a bathroom and tied in from the outside. It's hard to understand how a grandfather clock becomes confused with a rope.

** Ramsey said he was punched in the face repeatedly by a 6-foot-tall, 200-pound black male, yet there did not appear to be a cut or visible bruise on his face. And police spokeswoman Marion Hills tells THE EXAMINER: "My understanding is that Mr. Ramsey wasn't hurt.

"There was certainly no reference to any injuries sustained by Mr. Ramsey in our report."

** Ramsey told police he'd gone out on a 20-minute errand and returned around noon. "That's a very small window of opportunity for a stranger to find his way inside the house and go from room to room looking for valuable," says the insider.

** "The Ramseys' home is located in one of Atlanta's most well-to-do areas, in which all the homes have very good security systems, the insider explains. "In addition, there's a Neighborhood Watch program, all of which makes it highly unlikely that an intruder could sit on the street casing the joint in a 'brownish or gray Chevy Malibu' -- a description Ramsey gave the cops of the suspected getaway car -- without being detected."

** There were supposedly guns in a vault, yet the intruder failed to steal a shotgun -- a hot-ticket item that could bring big bucks on the street.

Ramsey's attorney denies his client staged the burglary. "When you review the investigative records, you will be impressed with the professional investigation conducted by the Atlanta Police Department," attorney Lin Wood tells The EXAMINER

But this isn't the first time the Ramseys have said they were the victims of an intruder.

"This is, in fact, the third break-in claimed by the Ramseys," says the insider. "There was the one December 26, 1996 -- the night of JonBenet's murder -- a second incident is described in their book The Death of Innocence and now this alleged third encounter with a burglar.

"This is just one more reason why I suspect John Ramsey fabricated this highly suspicious situation."

Quote:FROM 2001-03-12: REPORT: Special Agent Peter W. McFarlane (FBI) of the GBI-FBI Crime Scene Specialist Unit

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On Tuesday, February 20, 2001, at 11:40 AM, Special Agent Peter W. McFarlane (FBI) of the GBI-FBI Crime Scene Specialist Unit recieved a request from Major Ted Hall, commander of the Personals Crimes Unites, Atlanta Police Department, to assist in the processing of a crime scene at 4070 Paces Ferry Road NW, Atlanta, GA, the residence of John and Patsy Ramsey.

Agent McFarlane arrived on scene at 12:44 PM and met with Detective Frank Tavarez and Sgt. Archie Ezell of the Atlanta PD Robbery Squad.

They advised that Mr. Ramsey's house was reportedly burglarized and he confronted the burglar, who attacked him. Mr. Ramsey was subsequently locked in a bathroom by this individual described as a black male.

Mr. Ramsey advised the suspect made off with two carrying bags, (1) an Irish green duffel bag with words "Nashville Jet" and (2) a black duffel bag with the words "Capitol City Club on the side.

Mr. Ramsey indicated that the suspect was coming down the stairway from the second floor when he confronted him carrying these bags. He asked him who he was and he indicated that he was a workman. Mr. Ramsey also asked him what he was doing with the bags, knowing that these bags and possible contents belonged to Mr. Ramsey.

Mr. Ramsey also indicated that the suspect was wearing socks as gloves, either dark blue or black. He advised that at that point he ended up in a confrontation and struggle with this individual, who subsequently locked him in the bathroom on the first floor adjacent to a sitting room adjacent to the kitchen. The door was held closed with

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Mr. Ramsey's brown leather jacket, which was tied to the grandfather clock support post next to the bathroom door.

Mr. Ramsey indicated that upon searching the house he found that his Compaq lap top computer and power source had been taken from a second floor office area.

He further indicated when he came into the house, which was through the kitchen door, he noted a tan colored Chevrolet Cavalier parked in the driveway which was back in, which he suspected belonged to the perpetrator.

Agent McFarlane surveyed the scene and called for assistance from ASAC David T. Mitchell (GBI) and Agent Carol Ann Johnson (GBI) also of the GBI-FBI Crime Scene Specialist Unit.

It is noted that the house faces north onto Paces Ferry Road but the entrance is from a side driveway from River Forest Drive on the east side of this house.

The house is a two-story brick house with full basement.

Upon surveying this scene it was evident that the suspect had been in the house for a period of time. It is noted that Mr. Ramsey indicted that he had left the house unattended and had gone to the Home Depot store to shop and subsequently returned cathing the intruder.

The suspect entered the house through the rear basement door in the lower west side of the house. He used a shovel to pry the door open, which was left behind.

Various shoe impressions were left in the sand at this entrance as well as the shovel.

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ASAC Mitchel processed these impressions, making appropriate Hydrocal casts.

The suspect opened various drawers to chests and dressers on the first floor and second floor bedroom areas.

He also opened a gun safe located in Mr. Ramsey's dressing room/clothes closet area. According to Mr. Ramsey, the safe was not locked.

A gray metal box containing personal papers and a white cardboard box containing white sheets of paper with the inscription in pink cursive "JonBenet" was also on the floor in front of the safe.

A 12 gauge double barrel Parker shotgun, which was broken down in a leather carrying case, was also on the floor.

Agent McFarlane initially photographed the injuries to Mr. Ramsey's face, head and neck areas.

Upon taking these photographs Mr. Ramsey indicated to Agent McFarlane that he fought with the intruder and was forced in the bathroom adjacent to the sitting area on the first floor next to the kitchen.

The door had been tied shut with Mr. Ramsey's coat and a towel tied to the grandfather clock support post to the outside door handle to the bathroom. A multi-Allen wrench tool was used to secure the coat sleeve to the grandfather clock post.

Mr. Ramsey advised he did not want to get injured any further by this individual so he did not come out of the bathroom until he felt the intruder had left.

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Mr. Ramsey further indicated to Agent McFarlane and Atlanta detectives that his wallet which was described as an alligator black shiny wallet containing his Georgia driver's license, Blockbuster Video card along with two VISA cards, one from Merrill Lynch, and an American Express and Rich's credit cards were in the wallet.

He also indicated that he was missing papers, namely aircraft logs from his residence and they were in one of the bags, which the suspect was carrying out. He also indicated that he was missing $300-$400 cash which was in his wallet.

Agent McFarlane photographed the exterior and interior of this house as well as the bedroom and study areas and the areas where the perpetrator opened the drawers to the various chests and closets. These areas and drawers were processed for latent fingerprints by Agent Johnson with the use of Redwop powder and an alternate light source known as a Luma-Lite, all with negative results.

No fingerprints of value were recovered from these drawers.

Agent McFarlane processed the safe door and glass on the various closet doors in Mr. Ramsey's dressing area, recovering various latent lifts of unknown value.

Agent McFarlane collected the gray metal box and white cardboard box to be processed later for latent fingerprints at the GBI Crime Lab.

Agent McFarlane also photographed the broken entrance door to the basement area. The lock had been bent and forced open and the keeper and doorjamb had been broken.

The basement door was processed for latent fingerprints, inside and out.

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Photographs with black and white film were used to photograph latent fingerprints developed on the outside of this door, above the lock, 48 1/2" from the door and two inches from the edge of the door.

It is also noted ASAC Mitchell located tire impressions at the left front (north side) of the entrance to the driveway, whereby casts were made.

Also a Home Depot receipt was recovered on the floor in front of the bathroom where Mr. Ramsey was held. It read February 20, 01, 10:42 AM for the purchase of door hinges.

All items of evidence and casts recovered at this scene were so noted on GBI Receipt for Property Sheets #E-202718 and E-202717, respectfully.

Agent McFarlene, along with ASAC Mitchell and Agent Johnson, departed this scene at 9:00 PM.

ID DATA: Victim: John Ramsey, W/M
DOB: (blacked out)

Special Agent Peter W. McFarlane: 03/09/01

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  Atlanta fat cat incident?
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 04:37 PM - Forum: Fleet and Priscilla White - No Replies

June 1998 John Ramsey Interrogation by Lou Smit and Mike Kane (Fat Cat Phrase in the Ransom Note)

1 that we were.
2 MIKE KANE: There are these phrases in
3 here that seem to have some kind of Hollywood
4 connection? What did you think about that?
5 JOHN RAMSEY: It didn't dawn on me at
6 the time, because we (INAUDIBLE) so much. But that
7 came out later. There was a couple of phrases that
8 came out later: "you must grow a brain"; and we
9 can talk about the of the fat cat; and other fat
10 cats here, or something like that.
11 MIKE KANE: You're not the only fat cat
12 around.
13 JOHN RAMSEY: Right. Those are the phrases
14 that we, you know, later we thought we had heard
15 from people around us who have tried to
16 reconstruct who, where.
17 MIKE KANE: When you say we thought?
18 JOHN RAMSEY: Patsy and I.
19 MIKE KANE: Okay. And how was it that you
20 heard?

21 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, grow a brain, fat
22 cats. We'd heard those before.
23 MIKE KANE: Were you ever able to --
24 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, we had some names
25 we came up with. We passed on (INAUDIBLE) our

1 friends in Atlanta, "Atlanta fat cats" later in
2 that week.
3 MIKE KANE: When was that specifically?
4 JOHN RAMSEY: That was when she was back;
5 when we were back for the funeral.
6 MIKE KANE: (INAUDIBLE) friends saying that
7 about?
8 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, when we went back, Ron
9 Westmoreland had like a little reception after the
10 funeral, and some of my friends were there, and he
11 has a beautiful home in Atlanta. He makes a lot of
12 money. It's not a stretch for him to have it. It's
13 very nice.
14 My friends were around me, consoling me and trying
15 to give me advice. And to be a part of that group
16 it's the Atlanta fat cats.



4 MIKE KANE: Last July, I think it was, that
5 you (INAUDIBLE) and I think at that point you said
6 that you had been thinking about it about, once
7 again, the possibility of a woman, and you had
8 thought Priscilla White. (INAUDIBLE), the fat cat
9 thing.

10 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah. We went back to Douglas's
11 analysis that it's somebody you know; it's
12 somebody that's been in the house; it's somebody
13 that's hanging with you who's jealous. And if I
14 put that box around it, and what was subsequently
15 extremely bizarre behavior on both their parts.
16 MIKE KANE: What kind of behavior?

17 JOHN RAMSEY: A lot of it I didn't see,
18 but just heard about it. But when John Fernie
19 wouldn't let Fleet on the airplane because he
20 thought he was too out of control. My brother
21 called, they were supposed to stay at the
22 Westmoreland's and they nearly got cross-wise, and
23 they're two of the nicest people you'll ever meet.
24 They wouldn't stay there.
25 They went and stayed at my brother's and my

1 brother called me and said that he had a gun in
2 the house. I was, apparently lost. And he said,
3 Fleet White just left here and he's on his way
4 over. I think he's extremely dangerous. I got him
5 out of the house. Apparently he had those -- and
6 my brother is as calm and as level headed as any
7 person I know who is right to the core. Whatever
8 happened there.
9 MIKE KANE: What about Priscilla? I think
10 you said (INAUDIBLE)?
11 JOHN RAMSEY: Always when there was tending
12 to the children, he was the mom. I mean, he took
13 care of the kids. He was a stay home dad. He
14 wanted to have more kids and Priscilla didn't want
15 to have anything to do with it. He just seemed
16 very attentive to the kids.
17 (INAUDIBLE) if I narrowed that box down any
18 further to, I would pick Priscilla.
19 MIKE KANE: You think she was less (INAUDIBLE)?
20 JOHN RAMSEY: Only because it would be
21 very hard for me to believe that Fleet would do
22 such a thing.
23 MIKE KANE: You're saying that it wouldn't
24 be hard that Priscilla would though?
25 JOHN RAMSEY: Less hard. And there's a lot

1 of data that flowed in afterwards to us from
2 friends that said, you know, Priscilla was very
3 jealous of Patsy. And they made a comment that
4 they'd rather eat glass than live in a house like
5 Rod Westmoreland's. It was hatred for wealth. It
6 was like strange stuff that was coming out, coming
7 back.
8 MIKE KANE: Is Fleet wealthy?
9 JOHN RAMSEY: Fleet? I don't have a clue.
10 MIKE KANE: He was always described (INAUDIBLE).
11 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah. (INAUDIBILE). He bought a
12 house; he was apparently to get a mortgage. He
13 kept commenting about his mortgage rate. He didn't
14 have a job and he was pretty open about that .
15 I just assumed that he must had some money stashed
16 away.
17 MIKE KANE: Did Priscilla work?
18 JOHN RAMSEY: No. Well she use to say things
19 were tight and they had to -- cause she was going
20 to go on this trip to New York and Patsy wanted
21 her to go with Kathy and she wouldn't go because
22 they couldn't afford it. So it's hard to tell.

(I read this and don't think anyone used the term "fat cats" - - anyone see that differently?

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  MY evidence taken by police -
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 03:31 PM - Forum: Press Releases /Official statements - No Replies

After a news story stated that I had evidence, attempted to get it properly checked and the police had refused to have it tested, I got a call from Chief Beckner saying he WOULD have it tested.  This story followed.

Tipster provides possible DNA evidence in Ramsey case
By Owen S. Good, News Staff Writer
August 17, 2001

BOULDER -- Police Chief Mark Beckner has asked a state lab to test possible DNA evidence, given to him by an Internet tipster, with genetic traces found in the JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation.

The Colorado Bureau of Investigation also will examine DNA evidence from a former suspect in an unsolved Arapahoe County murder for possible links to the Ramsey case.

Beckner, confirming the testing, said so little is known about the source of the DNA that he can't say if it will produce a meaningful lead.

"I don't have enough information on where it came from to even tell you whether it's worth a look," Beckner said Wednesday. "We're doing it just to cover all our bases, and if something pans out, super, great."

It is at least a new lead in a five-year investigation that has focused on the girl's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey, as suspects in her death. The case has appeared to grind down since a grand jury disbanded without an indictment in 1999.

While police figures say more than 100 suspects have been considered, and people continue to be interviewed, DNA testing has "dwindled down" lately, Beckner said. The number of interviews stood at 590 in June 1998 and increased to "roughly 600" in the past three years, according to city press releases.

While the chief is taking evidence of unknown origin and testing it without the name of a possible suspect in mind, he said it is not an endorsement of a so-called "intruder theory." It still examines the possibility that a stranger murdered JonBenet, 6, whose body was found Dec. 26, 1996.

"I wouldn't characterize it as moving in any direction other than investigating the crime and trying to answer unanswered questions," Beckner said. "And wherever it leads us, it leads us."

]The tipster, who goes by the Internet name Jameson in maintaining a Ramsey case Web site, said the sample is a "personal belonging" of a man who lived in the Boulder area at the time of the murder. It contains hair and bodily fluid traces, she said, and was mailed to her eight months ago by "someone intimate" with the man, who suspected his involvement.

Jameson wanted written assurances from Beckner that he would test the item before she turned it over, but Beckner had been reluctant to give them, she said. She said he verbally agreed last month.

"I can tell you that the person has been talked about in Boulder as a suspect," she said, although she withheld that name from the police.[/font][/size]
Unknown male DNA was found underneath JonBenet's fingernails and in her panties. The Ramseys are not the source.

"I really do think JonBenet got a piece of her killer, and he left something behind," said Lou Smit, whom Beckner has criticized for taking his intruder theory public. "Some day, that is going to catch him."

Smit said he is "really encouraged" Beckner is doing the DNA testing. "I hope that they do more," he said. "It must be worth something or they wouldn't test it."

Beckner characterized the DNA comparison as part of ongoing laboratory tests. "We are still doing DNA tests, and we are doing DNA tests on some things that have been submitted," he said.

Beckner could not say how many other tests have been performed this year. "It's dwindled down significantly," he said. "There aren't many we ask for now."

Sheriffs' detectives in Arapahoe County received a similar DNA tip from Jameson earlier this year, according to Detective Rick Fahlstedt. Testing showed enough of a link that the person was brought in and gave a voluntary sample, which eliminated that person as a suspect, he said.

Jameson said the person also lived in the Boulder area at the time of the Ramsey murder. She also gave the person's name to Beckner. The chief thinks the CBI may have already examined it for Ramsey links.

"Any DNA that's tested by CBI is compared against their entire database," Beckner said. "It's basically an automatic kind of thing."

Atlanta attorney L. Lin Wood, who is representing the Ramseys in three civil lawsuits, said he was "slightly" encouraged by the news.

"I'd be more encouraged if I saw the police taking aggressive actions to solicit new tips and new leads, to take this case off the shelf and genuinely go back and revisit it start to finish," he said.

Contact Owen S. Good at (303) 442-8729 or goodo@RockyMountainNews.com.

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  Annie Muss
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 03:03 PM - Forum: Confessors - Replies (1)

Annie Muss

Annie Muss was the name of a poster who joined Jameson’s WebbSleuths Forum at www.webbsleuths.com on May 29, 2003. He or she claimed to know who killed JonBenet Ramsey and even provided a Yahoo e-mail address for anybody that wanted to ask questions.

Jameson posts within ten minutes telling this person that this method is not the way to submit a tip and that they should be contacting the authorities OR HER and she will give the information to the authorities and then she provides her e-mail address.

A couple of other forum members begin peppering questions to Annie Muss. On May 30, 2003 Annie Muss posts a response thread to answer all the various questions being asked by the other posters. My the evening on May 30th, Jameson posts a message telling Annie Muss to send handwriting samples to Lou Smit at the DA’s office or he can send them to her. Jameson suggests that if he doesn’t want to send to Lou Smit or her then she suggest he send them to Lin Wood, the Ramsey’s Civil attorney. Jameson informs Annie Muss that if he just wants to chat on the forum that she has better things to do.

Throughout the evening and into the early morning hours, multiple posters continue to ask questions. Since Annie Muss mentions “Twin Peaks” then Maikai posts a review. Sharkie post asking if the book mentioned is either “The People of Pineapple Place,” or “Prisoner of Pineapple Place” by Anne Morrow Lindbergh.

On May 31, 2003 Annie Muss informs the forum that he has been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and that he still believe he lived in Boulder in 1996 following that by saying “The experiment is over.”

Date and Time of “Annie Muss” postings:

Annie Muss - May-29-03, 09:33 PM (EST)
Annie Muss - May-30-03, 02:16 AM (EST)
Annie Muss - May-30-03, 05:33 PM (EST)
Annie Muss - May-31-03, 08:13 AM (EST)

Annie Muss
unregistered user
 May-29-03, 09:33 PM (EST)
"I know who did it, any questions?"
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  Burke's room
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 02:28 PM - Forum: Rooms - No Replies


Burke's bedroom was on the second floor.  Immediately outside his bedroom door was the staircase leading to the third floor and another to the front hall.  Melinda's room would have been to the left, opposite the stair and his bathroom.   Straight ahead was a hall leading to the playroom and beyond that was the addition to the house where JonBenet had her bedroom.

Burke's room was wallpapered with World War I fighter planes, and a large wooden propeller hung over the small windows. Two TV sets and a VCR shared a bookcase with a fish tank. His room was not where Disney movies were kept, he enjoyed learning programs such as 'Practicing Landing" and "First few Hours of Voyage".  He also had a computer in his room but no internet access as far as I know.

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