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  Jan. 2014 - clearing White family
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-30-2017, 02:39 PM - Forum: Press Releases /Official statements - No Replies

Jan. 23, 2014 - Boulder Police Department Statement Regarding the Family of Fleet White, Jr.
Thursday, Jan. 23, 2014
Contact:
Kim Kobel, Boulder Police, 303-441-3370
 
Boulder Police Department statement regarding the family of Fleet White, Jr.
 
To correct past inaccurate statements and speculation appearing in the media, and at the request of Fleet and Priscilla White, the Boulder Police Department releases the following statement:
 
Since December 26, 1996, the homicide of JonBenet Ramsey has been the subject of widespread news reports and speculation by the media.  A great deal of that reporting and speculation targeted innocent community members whose only connection to the crime was as cooperating witnesses.  This includes the Fleet White, Jr. family of Boulder who suffered embarrassment and damage to their reputations.  The Boulder Police Department recognizes the suffering the Whites have endured as a result of the accusations made against the White family during the course of the investigation.
 
The Boulder Police Department investigators have always considered the White family to only be witnesses in this case.  The Boulder Police Department has never considered the White family to be suspects in the case.  In 2000, the police department did investigate allegations made by a California woman to District Attorney Alex Hunter,  as reported in the press, that were intended to cast suspicion on the White family.  The department found no evidence to support the unfounded allegations.  There has never been any evidence to link the White family to the JonBenet Ramsey homicide.
 
We wish to express our gratitude for the White family’s cooperation and contributions in regard to the investigation of JonBenet’s death.
 
 
Mark R. Beckner
Chief of Police
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  2013 on GJ true bills
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-30-2017, 02:38 PM - Forum: Press Releases /Official statements - No Replies

Oct. 25, 2013 - Boulder Police Department Statement About Release of Ramsey True Bills
Friday, Oct. 25, 2013
Contact:
Kim Kobel, Boulder Police, 303-441-3370
Boulder Police Department statement about release of Ramsey true bills
Today, Judge Robert Lowenbach released true bills that had been issued by the JonBenet Ramsey grand jury back in 1999.  The decision by Judge Lowenbach to publicly disclose the existence of these true bills provides confirmation to the public that the investigation pursued by the Boulder Police Department was, in fact, based on the information and evidence available.  The grand jury of 12 objective jurors ultimately agreed with investigators that probable cause existed for the filing of charges.  “Until this release, it was difficult to remain silent in reference to our knowledge of the true bills for so many years,” stated Police Chief Mark Beckner.
Investigators at the time were disappointed in the then district attorney’s decision not to issue indictments.  Cases are rarely perfect and often contain conflicting evidence.  As a result, the opportunity to present the entire case to a jury may be lost forever.  We also understand the criteria for taking a case to trial is higher than probable cause.
What we have learned from this experience is how important the relationships are between police departments which investigate cases and the district attorneys who ultimately prosecute cases.    These roles should always remain clear. At the same time, both agencies must work collaboratively together as a team.  Under District Attorney Stan Garnett, we’ve been able to develop a team approach – with both agencies aiming for similar goals - to achieve unprecedented success in prosecuting cold cases, most of which had been rejected for prosecution under previous district attorneys.  Justice, and the public interest, is better served with this type of collaboration and shared focus.
The status of the Ramsey investigation today is that of a cold case.  The case is still open, but is not actively being investigated and there are no new leads. While we believe at this point it is unlikely there will ever be a prosecution, the Boulder Police Department still holds out some hope that one day the district attorney and the Boulder Police Department will be able to put together a case worthy of presenting to a jury.

-- CITY--

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  Fleet and Priscilla White
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-30-2017, 02:17 PM - Forum: Ramsey family FRIENDS - Replies (3)

The Ramseys had Christmas dinner at the Whites' house that Christmas day.  Their actions after the murder confused and amazed some of us.  I will start a sub-forum here just for questions we would like to ask them.

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  Joe and Betty Barnhill - East
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-30-2017, 02:14 PM - Forum: Neighbors - Replies (1)

Lovely older couple who lived across the street from the Ramseys, they shared the dog with the Ramseys.  John Ramsey had hidden JonBenét's Christmas bike at their house. 

They also had a boarder in the basement named Meyers. - - Sorry, blanked out on his details.  Sure someone will fill in.

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  Melody and Luther Stanton - SE, across the street
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-30-2017, 02:12 PM - Forum: Neighbors - Replies (3)

Melody and Luther slept with their windows cracked.  She reported hearing a terrible scream after midnight, said she knew it was from the Ramsey house but assumed the parents would take care of it.  Luther said after that he heard a noise that might have been metal hitting concrete.  There are several theories about what that may have been - - either the grate falling back into place or a bat being thrown (one was found on northern window ledge and that had fibers on it from the basement carpet.)

Melody had twin sons named Richardson, age 30.  I believe they lived home at that time and wonder if they were ever considered.

As I wrote that, I wondered if the BPD kept track of the criminal activities of ANYONE and EVERYONE listed in their files.  Absolutely not accusing her sons but the question begs to be asked  - - - if LE did follow all the names they had in their files, if the killer is somewhere in their thousands of pages of notes - - might they have found JonBenét's killer went on with other criminal activities?

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  Diane Brumfit - South
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-30-2017, 02:06 PM - Forum: Neighbors - Replies (1)

Neighbor to the South, she reported noticing the light in the sunroom was out - normally the lamp in that room was left on 24/7.

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  Scott Gibbons - North
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-30-2017, 02:05 PM - Forum: Neighbors - Replies (3)

Scott Gibbons was the neighbor to the north.  He is the man who reported a different light on in the kitchen around midnight that Christmas Day night.  He told me personally that the light on was a light Patsy NEVER used, a light located at the ceiling over the sink area.

He said it could NOT have been a flashlight or light from the refrigerator, it was clearly a set of lights above the counter, near the ceiling.

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  Lou Smit and the Stun Gun Theory
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 01-30-2017, 01:31 PM - Forum: Stun Gun - Replies (5)

More than any other evidence, Detective Lou Smit believes that small marks left on JonBenet's face and back, prove that an intruder killed JonBenet. 

Examining autopsy photos, Smit noticed unusual sets of abrasions on JonBenet's back and face. Smit wondered if they had been made by a stun gun--an unlikely weapon for a parent to use on a child. Smit measured the marks and discovered they matched a brand of stun gun called the Air Taser. : approximately 3.5 centimeters.

Smit believed a stun gun was used to incapacitate JonBenet in order to move her to the basement. Smit believes only an intruder would need to use one.


"There is no reason at all for the parents to have a stun gun to help stage the murder of their daughter," he says. "There's nothing to indicate the Ramseys ever owned a stun gun." 

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Dr. Michael Dobersen, a stun gun expert and coroner for neighboring Arapahoe County, also believes the marks on JonBenet were left by a stun gun. To prove it, he used one on the skin of an anesthetized pig. "The marks are similar in size, shape and color and are a certain distance apart," he says. 

While there are some minor differences, both Doberson and Smit believe the experiment confirms a stun gun was used.

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  Under her nails
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-30-2017, 01:27 PM - Forum: DNA under fingernails - Replies (9)

I don't have access to that report at this moment but will say I was under-impressed with the results because they were.... I am going to use the word "muddy".  The child had all kinds of stuff under her nails, I think.  Yes, there was foreign DNA there but - - who knows when she scrubbed her nails last?

Which makes me have to say - - I have avoided this subject a bit because - - - EVERYONE she was in contact with on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, IMO, should have given DNA samples to be used just for elimination purposes.  That mean Cox and Gaston, Fleet White's guests, should have given samples.  After all, they were with her for hours on Christmas afternoon and we have no idea if either of them held her on their lap or played a game with her or.... we just don't know.

The DNA reports from the panties and long johns were much more straight forward.  

I can see the possibility of someone leaving their DNA on the outside of the long johns in an innocent way - - who folded the laundry, for example. 

But co-mingled with the victim's blood, found in her panties.... i see NO way that was an innocent deposit and that is why the reward I am offering relates only to THAT profile.

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  looking for the web
Posted by: jameson245 - 01-30-2017, 12:58 PM - Forum: Broken window/ Spider web - Replies (13)

   

This is a crime scene photo taken the morning of the 26th - - hours before the police crime scene video was shot.  I see a disturbance at the window - can tell you from going in that window myself that there is a lip on that ledge so you can NOT slide in, you have to pick up your butt to go in.  So the amount of disturbance is certainly possible with the intruder theory.  My question is - - why can't we see the big spider web tht is in the crime scene video?

I know Lin Wood, in the CBS lawsuit, suggests they altered the images.  So I want to see what all of you think.  Is there a big spiderweb there?

(And just for the record, in the crime scene video, I see the web - - and I also see part of it that was torn from the whole hanging from the open window frame.)

So is there a spider web there or not?  is it at the angle presented by CBS?  I personally think if there was an active spider web there it would have been across the window, not thick and full of debris.)

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