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what BORG hears |
Posted by: jameson245 - 03-19-2017, 05:33 AM - Forum: 911 call
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I posted the following on Monday Feb 20
"At the end of the 911 call John Ramsey is heard barking to Burke "We're not speaking to you". It is stated in a clear parent-to-child tone, with venom and contempt."
This is just one example of what BORG hears when they listen to the tape.
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Quick info about the Duct tape |
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 03-18-2017, 04:28 PM - Forum: Duck Tape
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- The duct tape was black, a point John Ramsey makes repeatedly. At one point he states "it was like black. It wasn't electrical tape. It was kind of white, black, unusual tape, I thought." It appears that "wide" may have been incorrectly transcribed as "white" in this statement since there are repeated other instances in which he refers to the tape as black. Crime scene photos make the tape appear gray, but this may be due to a reflection of light off the black tape John also several times notes the smooth edges of the tape, asserting that it has been cut with a knife and NOT torn by hand as one might normally do with duct tape. Note the Carnes opinion below indicates both ends were torn.John reported the tape adhered all the way to JonBenet's mouth, i.e., it was not just loose on her lips. The tape is described as wider than electrical tape but not as wide as duct tape; JR appears quite certain on this point. He had previously used tape of a similar size that was white for sailing, but had never seen that type of tape in black previously. Note the Carnes opinion below indicates it was duct tape despite John's insistence it was not that wide (in the interviews, John is surprised by how wide the tape appears in crime-scene photos since it does not square his recollection).
Carnes Opinion
- ******Lip Prints on Tape. Plaintiff also notes that the strip of duct tape found on JonBenet's mouth had a bloody mucous on it and a "perfect set of child's lip prints, which did not indicate a tongue impression or resistance." (PSDMF 53.)(Carnes 2003:15).*******Both Ends Torn. "Both ends of the duct tape found on her were torn, indicating that it came from a roll of tape that had been used before. (SMF P 171; PSMF P 171.) (Carnes 2003:18).*******Animal Hair. "Animal hair, alleged to be from a beaver, was found on the duct tape. (SMF 183; PSMF 183.) Yet, nothing in defendants' home matches the hair (SMF 183; PSMF 183.), thereby suggesting either that the duct tape had been obtained from outside the home or that it had been carried outside the home at some point." (Carnes 2003:71).
FBI Findings
- Date Manufactured. "The FBI had determined that the tape .... had first been manufactured in November 1996 under the brand name Suretape. The tape had a 40 percent calcium filler in the adhesive, and its yarn/scrim count of 20/10 helped pinpoint that Bron was the tape’s distributor" (Schiller).
Source of Tape
- Not Sourced to Ramseys. "The black duct tape used on JonBenet's mouth has also not been sourced to defendants. (SMF P 170; PSMF P 170.)...No similar duct tape was found in the house, nor is there evidence that defendants ever used or owned such duct tape. (SMF P 172; PSMF P 172.)" (Carnes 2003:18).Not From Picture Frame. "BPD detective Byfield had located two paintings in the home, one of which was hung in JonBenet's bedroom, that had black tape attached to the rear of the frames. There was no match with the strip of tape found in the windowless room, however. It was later determined that Better Light Photography Studio had placed these pieces of tape on the frames in 1993" (Schiller)
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John and Patsy on nightgown |
Posted by: Summer Dawn - 03-18-2017, 02:47 PM - Forum: Barbie nightgown
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BARBARA WALTERS: When JonBenet's body was found there was one of her favorite nightgown's next to her. Her so-called Barbie nightgown.
PATSY RAMSEY: Um hum.
BARBARA WALTERS: And so there was the impression that whoever did this cared about this child. Left the nightgown. Left the blanket.
PATSY RAMSEY: Um hum.
BARBARA WALTERS: Again. Oh her parents did it but they, they loved her so they tried to comfort her even in death.
JOHN RAMSEY: That's a very strange… that nightgown should not have been there. It's it's a clue of some type. We don't know what. Look, we know several very positive facts about this killer we believe. It's a male. (PAUSE) It's a pedophile that looks at young… female children much differently than you and I do. They look at 'em with sexual uh eyes. I thought about it every day for 3 years. I've talked to experts. I've talked to experienced homicide detectives. (LONG PAUSE) It's the best profile we can come up with.
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DNA and fibers? |
Posted by: jameson245 - 03-18-2017, 02:41 PM - Forum: Duck Tape
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I am looking for reports on the evidence found on the black duct tape. Reading the official records on the DNA, I find the tape was sent to BODE labs and they determined the tape was "not suitable for testing" at their lab. So no DNA tests were done on the tape at that lab.
I believe later the stain was determined to be JonBenet's saliva.
Looking for details on what fibers were on the tape.
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LHP - she is named the source |
Posted by: jameson245 - 03-18-2017, 02:47 AM - Forum: Feces
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JonBenet Ramsey's older brother Burke killed the American child beauty queen as well as covering the six-year-old's Christmas present and bedrooms walls with feces, investigators claim.
FBI special agent Jim Clement said Burke, who is now 29, had a 'history of scatological problems'.
He made the claims in a CBS documentary called The Case Of: JonBenet Ramsey that aired in Australia on Tuesday night.
Ex-housekeeper Linda Hoffman-Pugh also remembered a time when she uncovered 'faecal material the size of a grapefruit on the sheets' in the bed of JonBenet.
'After they sealed off JonBenet's room, the crime scene technicians went through it, they apparently found feces smeared on a box of candy she had got for Christmas,' the former housekeeper said, according to news.com.au.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3799601/Claims-JonBenet-Ramsey-killed-older-brother-Burke-smeared-feces-wall.html#ixzz4bdpkqFl0
OK, so we have all seen the photos of the crime scene and read many depositions and interview transcripts. This story is not supported by any of that and - - LHP is not a well-respected witness here. I will take her early statements as sincere, but after she felt deserted by the Ramseys, lost her job, didn't get the loan, didn't get a phone call from J&P - - - her stories were different and unbelievable.
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