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  Christmas Eve
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-20-2018, 12:24 PM - Forum: Ramsey holiday plans 1996 - No Replies

   


Nestled in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains, a giant Christmas star made up of holiday lights shines for nearly two months. It has become a beloved tradition amongst residents of Boulder. After the Christmas Eve service and dinner at their favorite restaurant, the Ramsey family piled into their car to tour around Boulder for Christmas lights. Everyone was filled with the holiday spirit. They oohed and aahed over all of the beautiful displays as Christmas music played on the radio.

As the Ramseys made their way through Boulder, they drove up to where the famous star shines. JonBenet begged her parents to make a pit stop. She wanted everyone to get out of the car so they could walk up the side of the mountain and stand in the middle of the star. Her parents said no; it would be too much of a mess with everyone was still dressed in their Christmas mass finery. Next year, Patsy attempted to assure her daughter, they would come fully prepared with snow boots.
JonBenet was not pleased with this decision, and replied, “Well, what’s the use of coming up here if we’re not going to stand in the middle of the star?”

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  a story to smile at
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-20-2018, 12:14 PM - Forum: Pam and Kristine Griffin - No Replies

To help better prepare her daughter for pageants, Patsy hired a coach for JonBenet. She asked Pam Griffin, the seamstress who created JonBenet’s custom pageant outfits, if her daughter, Kristine, would be interested. Kristine, who was a beauty queen herself and a senior in high school at the time, agreed. Using the makeshift runway in the Griffin’s basement, she taught JonBenet how to properly do a pageant walk and poses on stage. In between practices they would take a break to play video games. The two quickly felt more like sisters rather than a coach and student.

One day, while Kristine was visiting the Ramsey’s house, JonBenet decided that instead of practising to be a pageant star, she would take on the role of match maker. John Andrew, JonBenet’s oldest brother, was visiting home to help John paint a room, and JonBenet thought he and Kristine would make the perfect couple. The little girl interrupted the lesson to announce this to Kristine. She was determined to make it happen. Giggling, JonBenet grabbed her coach by the hand and tried to drag her out to meet John Andrew. Despite Kristine’s amused protests, JonBenet persisted, at least until Kristine was finally able to distract her.

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  temperatures on December 26th
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-20-2018, 10:45 AM - Forum: Footprints in the snow - No Replies

Low of 2 degrees, high of 49  No precipitation, slight winds

info from WFO Denver/Boulder  Denver monthly climate products 2010

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  1996 Boulder info
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-20-2018, 10:20 AM - Forum: Boulder crimes - Replies (2)

Population in 1996 - 89,522

In 1996, Boulder Police Department reported 
1 murder
49 rapes
132 assaults
874 burglaries

(released figures in 2010 report)

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  A CBI report
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-18-2018, 09:26 AM - Forum: DNA - more technical discussions - No Replies

       


These pages just show what was submitted, when and when the exams were completed.  Some reports are more informative than others and other kinds of reports were more revealing, clearly stating that a person could not have been the owner of the golden DNA. 

I can only share what has been made public elsewhere.

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  fAMILY THOUGHTS
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-15-2018, 08:47 PM - Forum: THE KILLER - No Replies

ST: And let me ask you this, if this was somebody who came into the home that you knew, who might this person have been? Who would have had the best opportunity, if it was somebody that you know to have done this?
PR: God, I don’t know. I mean, I have asked myself that question a million times. I mean, you know, anybody that had keys and I’m trying to remember everybody. I think I, you know, the cleaning lady and the (inaudible) had a key and the, or if somebody that could have gotten to a key, or if it was actually, I don’t know how to pick locks, you know. And I don’t know that the doors wee locked or they could have, you know, walked right in. And you know, have you seen that little side flip door in the garage? That had been locked don the inside, one of those slide locks, you know. I mean, I don’t know, if that was open, they could have gotten in.
ST: Patsy, as you’ve thought about this over the last four months, do you think that this incident, the death of JonBenet started out as a premeditated act or do you think it was an event that got out hand by the offender?
PR: I don’t think that, I don’t know. I can’t begin to guess why anybody would do this.
ST: Why do you think somebody did this, Patsy?
PR: I don’t know.
ST: Do you think the person who did this, under any circumstances, would deserve a second chance?
PR: A second chance?
ST: What do you mean, a second chance?
ST: Pity or forgiveness?
PR: Oh God, no. I mean, not a…
ST: What should happen to the person that we apprehend, Patsy?
PR: I don’t know what you do tot people that do this. But whatever it is, strongest punishment there is, I don’t, especially to a child.

April, 1997

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  downstairs bathroom/toilet
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-15-2018, 08:23 PM - Forum: odds and ends - No Replies

ST: Patsy, is that bathroom in the basement typically used, infrequently used?
PR: Infrequently.
ST: Who uses that?
PR: I, when we had the home tour, that Christmas tour a couple of years ago, I cleaned it up and let the volunteers use that. They kind of made a little office down in the basement. You know, there were a lot of, all those volunteers would have been in that basement. Talking about who would have known about that cellar room.
TT: What part of the basement did they have their office down there?
PR: Well, I just had a little card table set up, and there were, is this ok to skip back to when we were talking about?
TT: Sure.
PR: You know, they had to like register, sign in. There was going to be a tour guide, that sort of thing. So a lot of people would have been down in that basement. I know it was couple of years ago, but you, I didn’t even go back down at all with them, they could have wondered back down there.
TT: OK. Now is there a sign-in list some place, who ran the sign I list.
PR: Jane Cronick was the, like the house chairman or something like that. And I bet she would have a list of those people.
TT: OK. Betty Cronick?
PR: But, I don’t know if they still kept it, but if anybody would, Mrs. (inaudible) might. I’m sorry (inaudible) what were we talking about? Oh a thought just occurred to me, it would have been a lot more people down there.
ST: I’m bouncing around on the page with you, but again, that might be a list that we’d certainly like to look at, along with a number of other things, as I hope we continue to work together on this thing. That includes a list of who was in that basement and might be able to (inaudible).
PR: And we were talking about who all used that bathroom. I think that, you know, the boys (inaudible) and Burke and kids would go play in the rain room there, and I think Linda mentioned one time that she, you know, opened that bathroom and it was coming back down in there, and I think occasionally the kids might have used that.
ST: OK. Kids.
PR: Somebody used the bathroom and didn’t flush it.
TT: OK. Kids.
PR: After a long time. But, you know, that was not one that we normally used.

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  photographers
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-15-2018, 08:11 PM - Forum: Pageants - No Replies

TT: OK. I know JonBenet has quite a few photographs, some of them the professionally done ones. Do you have anybody that did most of her portraits?
PR: Well, just two fellows. One was this David Haskel in Denver. And I met him because I had been asked to go have a photograph made by him for the Colorado Women’s (inaudible) newspaper that, Debbie, Debra and Rosenberger is the editor, here in Boulder. So she took me down there one day, and I had my picture made and so then, you know, I like him and everybody down there. And actually the makeup artist down there was who told me that her little girls had done pageants. I said well, you know, where do you know about these, and she called and gave me names that day.
TT: So David was the photographer before the pageants got started before the pageant circuits started up?
PR: Right. He was taking pictures of me for the Colorado Women’s News or whatever the name of it.
TT: OK. About how many photographs did David do, about? Did he photograph at all?
PR: Yeah, then I went down, I know at least twice, and had pictures made of her.
TT: And those were glamour shot ones. Were they, what kind of portraits were they?
PR: Well, they, he did. I mean, we took, he said bring a bunch of different clothes. So we bought costumes, blue jeans, ah
TT: He did a whole portfolio.
PR: A bunch of stuff, yeah. And then he really had done most of them, but they all kind of looked alike, you know, the ones that he would do. So, I got the name of this other fellow, Randy Simon, who did this pageant pictures frequently. And so I called him at the last minute before we went to Michigan last year, and he had some time available. So, we went out a day with him, and he did a whole bunch of them too. He did some in the studio and then did some, we went to different places around.
TT: OK. Were these still the glamour shot type stuff, or are they portrait studio type?
PR: Well, I don’t know what you mean by glamour shot, I mean, they call them character shots, like one was Little Red Ridinghood and one was in a little sun dress, and one was bare foot, you know those fun things. And then there was some in the studios like a model, those kinds of things.
TT: Any professional photographs of Burke done?
PR: No. I mean, we had family pictures taken, but he, but these were just for the pageant things because they would have, they had categories that you entered. For photogenic or whatever. So those were specifically taken for those.
TT: Who was the family photographer? Did the family photograph do JonBenet and Burke?
PR: We went for a while to a fellow named Willis. I can’t remember his last name, but he as at Better in Light Photography. And he’d usually take a Christmas picture. And then I started going to Moto Photo there in, down in Deckens (inaudible).
TT: OK.
PR: They did a Christmas one and Easter one, had a little Easter bunny (inaudible).
TT: OK. Any, did you get one, was there one photographer, Joe Moto, or was it just
PR: I think there was a woman, a tall woman. I think there was, those were (inaudible) pin-ups, kind of like all males or something that was there.

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  Patsy answering questions.
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-15-2018, 08:10 PM - Forum: Pageants - Replies (1)

TT: On the pageants a little bit, about how many pageants was JonBenet in?
PR: Ah, I was trying to think of that the other night. The best I can remember, about eight or ten, total I think. I mean, we, you know, it wasn’t, I mean we, it was just last year about this time that we were getting all of our clothes together.
TT: So she just started…
PR: It wasn’t, she had done a little in Charlevoix when she was 4, and she was, that would have been the summer before last. And then we did one, and we really, I don’t think, oh let’s see she did one, we just started in the spring I think, because I just started learning about these in Colorado like in March of last year.
TT: OK. In going to these eight or ten pageants, you notice anybody that was, and not only just towards JonBenet, but in general, notice anybody that was odd or out of the ordinary, anybody like that?
PR: Well, they were, I mean it was just pageants and things of the (inaudible). I mean I never noticed anybody, cause some of the same people sort of showed up at all of them.
TT: (Inaudible) the circuit or whatever?
PR: Right. I mean they were sponsored by different people, buy, you know, generally sort of the same girls went to these, and just, you know, parents. John didn’t go to all of them because he kind of take, it was a Sunday afternoon kind of thing. She and I would go do that, and he and Burke would go fly or something, and maybe they’d come toward the end and watch the crowning, you know. But it really wasn’t too much of a dad thing, but there were, you know, some dads there.
TT: No one though that as being kind of odd or out of place or…
PR: No, no.

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  sounds and such
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-15-2018, 07:49 PM - Forum: The House at 755 15th Street, Boulder, CO - No Replies

TT: Did JonBenet ever sleepwalk during the night, did she ever have any problems with that?
PR: No.
TT: What about anybody in the family? Anybody in the family have any problems sleepwalking, getting up at night. You remember hearing Burke wandering around at night, John wandering around at night.
PR: I’d hear Burke get up and use the bathroom.
TT: Other than that, any sleepwalking problems with anybody?
PR: Huh-uh.

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