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Bug Odd to say the least
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-10-2017, 11:58 AM - Forum: Fleet and Priscilla White - Replies (2)

OK, so reviewing some news stories and opinion pieces, it was reported Priscilla White didn't think the pageants were a good idea so she gave Patsy a copy of this book.

My question - no questions - would be...
Why was Priscilla reading a book on troublesome teenage daughters when her daughter was all of 6?
Why would she think this was an appropriate gift for Patsy?  I jmean, I know Patsy had older step-children but they were good kids, there were no problems there.

I just think it very odd.

SURVIVING OPHELIA: Mothers Share Their Wisdom in Navigating the Tumultuous Teenage Years
Cheryl Dellasega, Author
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If there were any doubt that Mary Pipher's 1994 bestseller Reviving Ophelia spawned a virtual cottage industry about teenage girls at risk, the latest Ophelia-related title by psychologist Dellasega (a clinician at Penn State's College of Medicine) lays it to rest. The book follows close on the heels of Ophelia's Mom (Forecasts, June 25), Nina Shandler's response to her daughter Sara's 1999 bestseller, Ophelia Speaks. Both Dellasega and Shandler have chosen to use Sara Shandler's approach and collect various essays, but while Nina Shandler structured each chapter of her book around specific problems, such as drugs or school, Dellasega chooses a more sprawling, conversational approach. Her chapters discuss the types of responses that out-of-control daughters elicit in their mothers, from special mother-daughter moments to explosive anger and regret. Despite the uneven quality of the selections (they range from thoughtful to clichéd), they share a raw immediacy that may help other moms. In fact, Dellasega credits some of the pieces with giving her the courage to send her daughter, Ellen, to a "wilderness program" to overcome anorexia. Like the mother who penned the excerpt "Tears from a Rose," the contributors are women who have tried to do their best, even when that wasn't always enough. "What happens when you do everything as right as you can, and it all goes wrong?" she questions. Interwoven throughout are Dellasega's ongoing concerns about Ellen, now 17. While it's obvious that the author wrote the book to overcome her struggles with her own teenager, there are lessons here that will help every mother dealing with an adolescent daughter.

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  Paul Hidalgo - artist?
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-10-2017, 10:42 AM - Forum: Names to remember - Replies (5)

Artist regrets Ramsey mural
By Mary George
Denver Post Staff Writer

March 13 - Paul Hidalgo, the University of Colorado art student whose mural juxtaposing JonBenet Ramsey with the words "Daddy's little hooker" sparked an uproar, was having plenty of second thoughts Wednesday evening. "This was a fiasco," the 21-year-old senior said after spending the day stonewalling reporters' questions, then seeing himself portrayed unfavorably on television news, receiving a threatening phone call, being notified he has violated copyright law and facing possible legal challenges because of his display. "This really makes me question the media and what they go for," he said. "I was the perfect story.'' The story took shape Wednesday when reporters - from local outlets to national tabloid TV - discovered his display on two, 25-foot expanses of lime green wall in the Sibell Wolle fine arts building. On the first wall, foot-high block letters stenciled in dark blue declare "Daddy's little hooker" over three copies of the glamour photo of JonBenet that Newsweek ran on its cover in January. On the far wall, in 4-foot-high letters, is stenciled the word "look" to the right of an arrow pointing back to the first wall. JonBenet, a 6-year-old beauty queen, was found murdered 11 weeks ago today in her Boulder home. Her killing remains under investigation. She was strangled, sexually assaulted and her skull was fractured. Hidalgo finished setting up the mural at 2 a.m. Monday in space routinely used for short-term student displays. Twice - on Monday and again Wednesday - someone tore down the photos. Shortly after noon Wednesday, news and broadcast photographers and reporters filled the hallway. Hidalgo had told them to be there at 12:30 p.m., when he'd replace the photos. When asked at that time what it meant, he gave a stock reply: "My art speaks for itself.'' But after hearing what others thought played across the television screen, Hidalgo decided to try to end the speculation. He created the mural to air his opinion that "the people involved in this case are definitely tied to the crime committed," and to protest child pageantry, he said Wednesday evening. "I think exposing young and impressionable children to this institution (of pageantry) is a terrible act," he said. Earlier in the day, Merrill Lessley, interim chairman of the fine arts department, called the display "hurtful" but defended Hidalgo's right to express himself.Art student Sarah Pace said: "People have every right to say what they want - the tabloids do it. This is a reflection of what our society is all about.'' And associate professor of art history Vernon Minor called the display "unsophisticated, sensationalist, mean. . . . It stinks as a work of art, except for the fact that it got attention.'' By evening, Hidalgo was saying, "I'm going to be really glad when this is all over. I learned a lot about myself and I'm maybe questioning what my real ambitions are. I'd always thought I would like a public life, but I'm not sure I'm fit for it.

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  Tal Jones
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-09-2017, 02:10 PM - Forum: Names to remember - Replies (1)

Posted long ago (years) by BIZ

There is another story I just thought of that I would like to bring to
 everyones attention. Tom Miller was married to Judith Phillips, a former 
wife of the Ramsey's friend Gary Phillips. He and Patsy worked together in Atlanta and 
they reconnected in Boulder since both had moved there. 
 From what I know Gary and Judith divorced, he moved to Boulder. Judith later followed him to Boulder,
 then Judith hooked up with a slime ball lawyer named Thomas Cecil
 "Doc" Miller. Doc Miller had some connection to the sale of the ransom
 note the tabloids along with Richard Talfryn "Tal" Jones aka Sprague.
 Tal is a step brother to Gwen Boykin the godaughter of Fleet Senior
 that I mentioned earlier. Tal worked for Doc Miller  as a paralegal or
 something. So did a lady by the name of Pamela Hadas. I spoke with
 Pamela Hadas for about an hour on the phone one day and she had alot
 to say, most of it was backed up by court records I later researched.
 Pamela told me that the day after the murder Tal Jones came to the
 office and told Doc that he had just spoke to Fleet White and he told
 him in confidence that Burke was the killer. Pamela said that same day
 that Doc Miller and Tal had gotten in to a physical fight in the
 office and Doc put a knife to Tal's throat. She didn't know what the
 arguement was about but she and other employees were able to break it
 up. Mary Suma didn't think that Tal knew Fleet at this point but
 Pamela claimed they did. Tal has often been described by Lou and Mary
 as Fleet's henchmen. He circulated the internet forums trying to waive
 public opinion. At one point he even
 tried to intervene with the grand jury proceedings. So it appears to
 me that  either Fleet started this rumor about Burke or Tal Jones did.
 I have to wonder why? Burke was a 9 year old child. What were they
 thinking? Were they trying to drive attention away from someone else?
 Alyce Christoff, Gwen's mother said after the murder that she wouldn't
 be surprised if Tal had something to do with it. He has always been on
 mine and Mary's list of suspects for that reason. Nancy Krebs also
 mentioned him in her deposition.
 From everything I researched Doc was a real slime ball. Pamela Hadas
 was his former high school teacher. She is a literary scholar and
 poet. They ran in to one another near Boulder and he told her that he
 wanted to learn poetry. He then hired her to work in his office as a
 legal aid. Pamela had lent him a substantial amount of money at one
 point. He was later able to commit her to a mental ward for a period
 of time, put her house in to his name, and transfer all of her money
 to himself. She was eventually able to get out of the mental ward and
 file a lawsuit against him. The jury wanted to award her far more than
 the court would allow. However, she never received a dime from Doc
 Miller. He put his house in Judith's name, she sold it and Dr. Pamela
 Hadas got nothing.(see attached court document)  I found the woman to
 be perfectly sane and stable when I spoke to her.  I found this is a
 strategy Doc Miller has done to others. If I recall correctly he has
 had at least one or two of his employees put in to mental wards, he
 also had one of his clients put in to a mental ward. His parents were
 threatening to sue him for doing nothing in their son's case after
 taking a huge amount of money. How can so many people around him all
 be crazy?  In any case he does not appear to be a very good person.

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  Mervin Pugh
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-03-2017, 03:11 PM - Forum: Housekeepers, workers in the house - No Replies

He needs his own thread.

Reviewing investigator notes I find he worked in the Ramsey house around Thanksgiving of 1996.  Worked on tiles in Patsy's bathroom and on the cabinet doors in the kids' playroom on the second floor.  He never got to the broken window in the basement.    Tina was with him at least part of the time he was there.

Later Linda and her family removed Christmas trees and other decorations from the basement, some from the windowless room (LHP's claim not to know about that room was wrong.)

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  Pry marks on door
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-02-2017, 07:20 PM - Forum: Intruder evidence - Replies (6)

Recently came to possess a detailed description list for all BPD case images.  

Interesting to learn a few new things.  One is that police found the door to the sun room had pry marks around the dead bolt.  I don't believe I ever heard that mentioned before. The pry mark is described as "fresh" and one inch long.

If I have forgotten that, please feel free to remind me where it was made public.  I don't believe it was.

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  Pineapple in bowl
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-02-2017, 07:04 PM - Forum: Pineapple or Fruit Cocktail? - Replies (9)

OK, I am in possession of a detailed description of all the photos the BPD took.  It is VERY detailed and most interesting.

Some posters are under the impression (and I don't know where they got it from) that there was milk in the bowl with the pineapple.   Truth is, the bowl had pineapple in it - and ... well, I will share two descriptions of two photos.
Both photos were taken on 12/29 by Officer Yamaguchi.

"#416 - This depicts, at a different angle, the bowl of pineapple on the kitchen table.  The solver spoon, which appears to be somewhat tarnished, remains in the bowl.  The bowl is nearly completely full of what appears to be chunks of pineapple.  Some of the pineapple is much more yellow in color than other chunks.  In the foreground of this photograph is a pear-shaped candle, the place mat on the furthest east side of the gloss top table, the Kleenex box and the gingerbred house."

"#417 - This is a close up of the bowl of pineapple which shows the spoon still in it.  This larger serving type spoon is silver and is ornately decorated with a pattern on top.  Inside the bowl is a large amount of pineapple. This bowl may also contain milk, although it is difficult to tell since the bowl is also white.  The bowl may be a serving bowl, although it is possible that it is a breakfast bowl.  It is difficult to gain perspective of its size.  The pineapple depicted in this bowl appears to be browning from exposure to the air."

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  Windowless room
Posted by: jameson245 - 09-02-2017, 01:21 PM - Forum: Rooms - Replies (3)

Where body was found

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  images from morning of 26th
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  Chuck Green (and his opposition)
Posted by: jameson245 - 08-28-2017, 06:49 PM - Forum: BORG theories and BORG people of note - Replies (2)

By Katherine Rosman
Issue Date: February 2000


Chuck Green is a 32-year veteran of The Denver Post and an award-winning journalist. Green believes that "the evidence points to the Ramseys' being involved in their daughter's death," and he speaks with a preacher's cadence as he makes his argument that a rich couple has gotten away with murder.

As with Boyles, what Green believes-not what he knows-counts, because he writes an opinion column for the Post four times a week. Green says he has devoted at least 80 columns to the Ramseys. He admits that's a lot of ink for one murder case but says that morally he has no choice as long as JonBenét's killer walks free. "The system has failed JonBenét," he says. "The system will fail and fail and fail other kids as long as nobody cares how the system failed JonBenét."

Green's not just a talking head, though; he claims to have inside "law enforcement" sources. And he freely admits to having served as a conduit for their leaks.

Journalists on this story have covered the "breaking news" by broadcasting and printing the spin fed to them by sources, Green contends. But the longtime newspaperman is hardly knocking himself and his colleagues for having done so. "I don't care if you're covering city hall or a sports team....You report the spin that your best sources give you and by reporting that spin you get access to that source," says Green. A consulting contract with NBC has helped Green ensure that his brand of reporting isn't limited to a local audience. He has made regular star turns on Today.

"That's how journalism works," Green continues. "You report the spin that your best sources feed you and that's how you keep them as sources."

But what about verifying the spin before publishing it as fact? "You try, but you usually can't," he says. "You verify with the guy who's sitting at the next desk to the guy who's giving you the information in the first place. And they're usually working on the same team."

Certainly, reporting often starts with a source's telling a reporter what that source would like to see in the paper the next day. But the job of a journalist usually involves checking the information, especially if the leak comes from a police or prosecution source hoping to test a theory or create the impression that progress is being made on a case. Otherwise, a story may be technically correct-in that the police do believe or suspect such and such-but contextually wrong or completely unfair, as is likely with Footprints In The Snow and the tabloid revelation about John Ramsey's pilot.

But anyone who actually thinks that such verification takes place, Green claims, lives in a dream world. The onus is on the consumer, Green says, to decide if he trusts the reporter. "I think this system serves the public," he says.

Ridiculous, answers University of Colorado journalism professor Michael Tracey, who coproduced a documentary that attacked the media's coverage of the case. "Boulder law enforcement put a ring in Chuck Green's nose and led him around on a leash," Tracey says. "Law enforcement used the media to build a case that law enforcement knew it couldn't construct in court. The role of the journalist is to assume you're being used, assume you're being lied to, and to double-check."

That has been an important rule in the Ramsey coverage, says Carol McKinley. Having reported the saga from the onset-first for Denver radio's KOA-AM before making the considerable leap from AM radio to Fox News Channel-McKinley had been fed a fair share of leaks. Back in late 1997, a Ramsey spokesman leaked her some potential news over lunch.

"There was something in the grass," McKinley recalls the spokesman telling her. "A cord? Some tape? A key?" McKinley says she asked. He wouldn't say, but he implied the news would prove that an intruder had been outside the Ramsey home the night of the murder. This could be a blockbuster, McKinley says the spokesman told her.

After lunch, McKinley returned to her office, got on the phone, and learned that the "something" found in the grass was a kneeprint.

A kneeprint? she thought. What in the world does that mean?

She called a forensic investigator, who, McKinley says, shared her skepticism. "'A kneeprint? So what?'" McKinley says the expert told her, who added that without some other indentation nearby-like a footprint or toeprint-such evidence would likely be unidentifiable.

He told her that there was no significance in a kneeprint in the grass. So she didn't broadcast it.

Such leaks-and people like Green, who say they let them into the public domain without verifying them-have led to the appearance (if not the reality) of "camps" within the Ramsey case: polarized groups of journalists whose work leans toward insinuating either the guilt or innocence of John and/or Patsy Ramsey. "It's defined by who talks to whom and who doesn't talk to whom," says Newsweek's Glick. "A lot of reporters were happy to have sources in one camp and stopped trying to get sources in other camps."

Glick spent six years in Newsweek's Washington, D.C., bureau, and he thinks the reporting of the Ramsey case mirrors Washington coverage in terms of close and longstanding journalistic relationships between specific political sources and reporters. "It's like the old Washington game," he says. "Almost everyone knew where these friendships were. It's not dissimilar in this situation."

Glick himself has been accused of being part of the pro-Ramsey camp. In fact, no national media outlet that runs news reports has been as castigated as much as Newsweek for this type of camp journalism. Consistently, Newsweek's Ramsey stories-usually written and reported by Glick and Keene-Osborn-have espoused a Ramsey-favorable point of view. Most of Glick and Keene-Osborn's "pro-Ramsey" coverage for Newsweek has criticized both the case that the police say they have against the Ramseys-and the press's often sensationalized representation of that case-rather than promoting a belief in the Ramseys' guilt or innocence.

The Newsweek scribes have taken their reporting multimedia; both acted as associate producers on professor Michael Tracey's British-funded documentary, which maintained that the Ramseys had been wrongly tried and convicted by the American lynch-mob media.

The documentary offers what no nonfiction piece at the time could: John and Patsy Ramsey appearing on camera to answer questions about the case and the media's behavior. Newsweek got exclusive rights to the interview and, using outtakes from that on-camera exchange, quoted the Ramseys in a July 13, 1998, article that chastised Boulder's law-enforcement community. The documentary has aired four times so far in the United States on A & E. Glick and Keene-Osborn split half the fee from the U.S. television rights.

Ramsey critics such as Boyles and Green have denounced the documentary as pure spin. Green labels it an "infomercial"; Boyles prefers "crockumentary." They insist that Newsweek and the Ramseys have a symbiotic relationship: Glick and Keene-Osborn get their Ramsey-fed exclusives and the Ramseys get favorable coverage.

To Glick, that kind of criticism shows the inherent flaw of the Ramsey coverage. He says he got access to the Ramseys not because of favorable coverage but because the Ramseys trusted he would not merely follow the spin of his best law-enforcement sources. He says he got access to the Ramseys because they saw that he was "questioning the orthodoxy" and "looking critically" at what law-enforcement sources were leaking. And Glick says that he became skeptical of the police investigation long before he had any access to the Ramseys. Keene-Osborn adds, "During the entire case, most of my sources were within the prosecution. To have labeled me as any kind of Ramsey pawn is laughable."

That Green and Boyles criticize Glick for maintaining a journalist-source relationship with the Ramseys astounds him. "What journalist in the country would say no to three days of on-camera, on-the-record interviews" with the Ramseys? he asks. "If that makes me pro-Ramsey, so be it."

Tracey defends the film against cries of "advocacy journalism" with equal ferocity. "What it was advocating is not being a megaphone for spin, and double-checking leaks from sources," Tracey howls. "If that's advocacy journalism, then, fine."

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  Brill's Content
Posted by: jameson245 - 08-28-2017, 06:46 PM - Forum: Peter Boyles - Replies (1)

By Katherine Rosman
Issue Date: February 2000


There is no question in radio-talk-show host Peter Boyles's mind that John and Patsy Ramsey were involved in the murder. Boyles doesn't know what happened to JonBenét, but what he knows is of little importance. That's because Boyles is a part of the "opinion press." On Denver's KHOW-AM, Boyles broadcasts his beliefs nearly every chance he gets. And why shouldn't he? Since JonBenét died, Boyles's ratings have skyrocketed. In the fall of 1996, Boyles had a 4.9 percent share of the morning audience. In fall 1997, that number jumped 31 percent, to 7.1 percent, a share he maintained through the fall of 1998.

Because of the thirst of the national media to keep the JonBenét mill churning, Boyles doesn't have to reserve his comments for his morning show's local audience. When he wants a little national media attention, he comes up with all kinds of clever ways to get it. Take the war of the newspaper ads.

During the last week of July and the first week of August 1997, John and Patsy Ramsey published two full-page advertisements in the Boulder Daily Camera seeking public help infinding the killer of their daughter.

After reading the Ramseys' first plea, Boyles took action. For $3,100, he placed his own ad, which ran in the Daily Camera the same day as the Ramseys' second ad was printed. Titled "An Open Letter to John & Patsy Ramsey," it outlined Boyles's reasons for thinking the Ramseys are guilty. In part, he wrote, "you are displaying certain characteristics that are totally opposite those of most victim parents....Fred Goldman's behavior exemplifies the true victim parent of a child who has been murdered. You, on the other hand, have led Colorado and the nation on a seven month, low speed, white Bronco chase."

The payoff? In the two days after Boyles's letter ran, he appeared on Dateline NBC, Rivera Live, and Good Morning America to discuss it. Two CBS Sunday night news programs and CBS Morning News aired reports about Boyles and his missive.

Boyles says he talks about the case as frequently and as passionately as he does so that JonBenét will not have died in vain. More than three years into the case, Boyles still covers JonBenét regularly. He has even helped produce a CD of parody songs with titles such as "Big Bad John [Ramsey]."

Still, Boyles is just a small part of the Lynch the Ramseys Brigade. Nationally, Geraldo Rivera is similarly committed to giving airtime to those who imply guilt on the part of the Ramseys. On November 24, 1997, Rivera stood before the audience of what was then his nationally syndicated broadcast show (not to be confused with his CNBC talk show), tie adjusted, mustache groomed. "It is entirely possible," Rivera said ominously, "that this murder mystery will never be solved, and that no one will ever be tried for the terrible crime committed against that lovely child-except for today, except for the mock trial we are about to stage for you right here in our studio."

Rivera then gave new meaning to the cliché "trial by media." He presented a two-part mock trial of John and Patsy Ramsey. (Rivera declined to comment for this story.)

The trial's "witnesses" for the prosecution included Tony Frost, the editor of the Globe; Cindy Adams, the New York Post's gossip columnist who was introduced by the prosecutor as "the world's greatest authority on everything"; a former Miss America; and Craig Silverman, a Denver attorney with no relation to the Ramsey case. Most of the "testimony" came in the form of clips from past shows.

Highlights from these "witnesses" included a statement from Adams in which she said, "Bit by bit, inch by inch, so slowly that you can't see it, it is closing around Patsy....Everything is pointing to Patsy."

Marilyn Van Derbur Atler, a former Miss America and alleged victim of child abuse and incest, "testified" that because her own mother had forced the pageant world upon her, she believes the Ramseys did the same to JonBenét.

Silverman, the Denver lawyer, "testified" that he wonders whether Patsy killed her daughter in a religious sacrifice. Silverman says his so-called testimony was actually an outtake from a different Rivera appearance during which he floated the religious sacrifice theory. He had no idea Rivera was going to use his comments as part of a mock trial until he turned on the TV and saw it himself.

A former Denver prosecutor, Silverman is a self-styled pundit and paid source for the Globe tabloid, according to Jeffrey Shapiro, the former Globe scribe. Silverman confirms he is on the tabloid's payroll. "I will take their money when they offer it but only on the condition that they show me my quotes ahead of time," he says, but later adds, "the vast majority of my work has gone uncompensated." Silverman also waxes analytical for The New York Times, Good Morning America, Inside Edition, Today, Extra, and Fox News Channel.

The "defense," represented by Rivera perennial Linda Kenney, a New Jersey attorney, called friends and relatives of the Ramseys, who said they knew the Ramseys could not have killed their daughter.

A jury made up of six volunteers found the Ramseys liable for the wrongful death of JonBenét. Rivera's studio audience hollered in approval.

Two weeks later, it was reported that NBC News hired Rivera as a full-time employee for $30 million over six years. If NBC hoped to capitalize on Rivera's proven ability to keep the JonBenét coverage going, the news organization got its money's worth. Since going legit full-time on CNBC, Rivera has done about 50 JonBenét segments on Rivera Live.

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