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  MY evidence taken by police -
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 03:31 PM - Forum: Press Releases /Official statements - No Replies

After a news story stated that I had evidence, attempted to get it properly checked and the police had refused to have it tested, I got a call from Chief Beckner saying he WOULD have it tested.  This story followed.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/lo...75,00.html
Tipster provides possible DNA evidence in Ramsey case
By Owen S. Good, News Staff Writer
August 17, 2001

BOULDER -- Police Chief Mark Beckner has asked a state lab to test possible DNA evidence, given to him by an Internet tipster, with genetic traces found in the JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation.

The Colorado Bureau of Investigation also will examine DNA evidence from a former suspect in an unsolved Arapahoe County murder for possible links to the Ramsey case.

Beckner, confirming the testing, said so little is known about the source of the DNA that he can't say if it will produce a meaningful lead.

"I don't have enough information on where it came from to even tell you whether it's worth a look," Beckner said Wednesday. "We're doing it just to cover all our bases, and if something pans out, super, great."

It is at least a new lead in a five-year investigation that has focused on the girl's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey, as suspects in her death. The case has appeared to grind down since a grand jury disbanded without an indictment in 1999.

While police figures say more than 100 suspects have been considered, and people continue to be interviewed, DNA testing has "dwindled down" lately, Beckner said. The number of interviews stood at 590 in June 1998 and increased to "roughly 600" in the past three years, according to city press releases.

While the chief is taking evidence of unknown origin and testing it without the name of a possible suspect in mind, he said it is not an endorsement of a so-called "intruder theory." It still examines the possibility that a stranger murdered JonBenet, 6, whose body was found Dec. 26, 1996.

"I wouldn't characterize it as moving in any direction other than investigating the crime and trying to answer unanswered questions," Beckner said. "And wherever it leads us, it leads us."

]The tipster, who goes by the Internet name Jameson in maintaining a Ramsey case Web site, said the sample is a "personal belonging" of a man who lived in the Boulder area at the time of the murder. It contains hair and bodily fluid traces, she said, and was mailed to her eight months ago by "someone intimate" with the man, who suspected his involvement.

Jameson wanted written assurances from Beckner that he would test the item before she turned it over, but Beckner had been reluctant to give them, she said. She said he verbally agreed last month.

"I can tell you that the person has been talked about in Boulder as a suspect," she said, although she withheld that name from the police.[/font][/size]
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Unknown male DNA was found underneath JonBenet's fingernails and in her panties. The Ramseys are not the source.

"I really do think JonBenet got a piece of her killer, and he left something behind," said Lou Smit, whom Beckner has criticized for taking his intruder theory public. "Some day, that is going to catch him."

Smit said he is "really encouraged" Beckner is doing the DNA testing. "I hope that they do more," he said. "It must be worth something or they wouldn't test it."

Beckner characterized the DNA comparison as part of ongoing laboratory tests. "We are still doing DNA tests, and we are doing DNA tests on some things that have been submitted," he said.

Beckner could not say how many other tests have been performed this year. "It's dwindled down significantly," he said. "There aren't many we ask for now."


Sheriffs' detectives in Arapahoe County received a similar DNA tip from Jameson earlier this year, according to Detective Rick Fahlstedt. Testing showed enough of a link that the person was brought in and gave a voluntary sample, which eliminated that person as a suspect, he said.

Jameson said the person also lived in the Boulder area at the time of the Ramsey murder. She also gave the person's name to Beckner. The chief thinks the CBI may have already examined it for Ramsey links.


"Any DNA that's tested by CBI is compared against their entire database," Beckner said. "It's basically an automatic kind of thing."

Atlanta attorney L. Lin Wood, who is representing the Ramseys in three civil lawsuits, said he was "slightly" encouraged by the news.

"I'd be more encouraged if I saw the police taking aggressive actions to solicit new tips and new leads, to take this case off the shelf and genuinely go back and revisit it start to finish," he said.

Contact Owen S. Good at (303) 442-8729 or goodo@RockyMountainNews.com.

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  Annie Muss
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 03:03 PM - Forum: Confessors - Replies (1)

Annie Muss

Annie Muss was the name of a poster who joined Jameson’s WebbSleuths Forum at www.webbsleuths.com on May 29, 2003. He or she claimed to know who killed JonBenet Ramsey and even provided a Yahoo e-mail address for anybody that wanted to ask questions.

Jameson posts within ten minutes telling this person that this method is not the way to submit a tip and that they should be contacting the authorities OR HER and she will give the information to the authorities and then she provides her e-mail address.

A couple of other forum members begin peppering questions to Annie Muss. On May 30, 2003 Annie Muss posts a response thread to answer all the various questions being asked by the other posters. My the evening on May 30th, Jameson posts a message telling Annie Muss to send handwriting samples to Lou Smit at the DA’s office or he can send them to her. Jameson suggests that if he doesn’t want to send to Lou Smit or her then she suggest he send them to Lin Wood, the Ramsey’s Civil attorney. Jameson informs Annie Muss that if he just wants to chat on the forum that she has better things to do.

Throughout the evening and into the early morning hours, multiple posters continue to ask questions. Since Annie Muss mentions “Twin Peaks” then Maikai posts a review. Sharkie post asking if the book mentioned is either “The People of Pineapple Place,” or “Prisoner of Pineapple Place” by Anne Morrow Lindbergh.

On May 31, 2003 Annie Muss informs the forum that he has been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and that he still believe he lived in Boulder in 1996 following that by saying “The experiment is over.”

Date and Time of “Annie Muss” postings:

Annie Muss - May-29-03, 09:33 PM (EST)
Annie Muss - May-30-03, 02:16 AM (EST)
Annie Muss - May-30-03, 05:33 PM (EST)
Annie Muss - May-31-03, 08:13 AM (EST)


Annie Muss
unregistered user
 May-29-03, 09:33 PM (EST)
  
"I know who did it, any questions?"
 
   This isn't a joke, I lived there and I know the man who murdered her. Most of you who read this will assume this is a joke, but it isn't. If you have any questions please send an e-mail to JBRQuestions@yahoo.com and I will consider answering them; otherwise please feel free to post your questions or disparaging remarks here; serious questions may be answered, disparaging remarks will be ignored but are of course welcome.

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  Burke's room
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 02:28 PM - Forum: Rooms - No Replies

   

Burke's bedroom was on the second floor.  Immediately outside his bedroom door was the staircase leading to the third floor and another to the front hall.  Melinda's room would have been to the left, opposite the stair and his bathroom.   Straight ahead was a hall leading to the playroom and beyond that was the addition to the house where JonBenet had her bedroom.

Burke's room was wallpapered with World War I fighter planes, and a large wooden propeller hung over the small windows. Two TV sets and a VCR shared a bookcase with a fish tank. His room was not where Disney movies were kept, he enjoyed learning programs such as 'Practicing Landing" and "First few Hours of Voyage".  He also had a computer in his room but no internet access as far as I know.

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  The butler door
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 02:19 PM - Forum: The House at 755 15th Street, Boulder, CO - No Replies

   


The rather low number on the photo indicates it was taken in the earlier morning hours on December 26th


2000 March 18 - John and Patsy Ramsey book, "Death of Innocence"


DOI (HB) Page 270:

"The investigators spent a great deal of time talking with me about a large diagram of the house on the wall behind me. I later learned that they also used the same diagram with Patsy. I was shocked to see that they had found the butler kitchen door, which led to the outside, open. This was reported by one of our friends when he arrived shortly after six in the morning. I'd never even noticed that open door as we frantically rushed around making phone calls, and yet there on the police diagram of our home was the note: "Door found open."

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  On the "enhanced" call
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 02:11 PM - Forum: 911 call - Replies (15)

2000 November 14
About.Com Crime Chat
with former Detective Steve Thomas



crimeADM: "Did you hear the 911 tape personally; and if so, once and for all, was Burke on it?"

stevethomas:
"I heard the 911 tape. repeatedly, as did the other detectives. the consensus was unanimous, as supported by the enhancement -- there is a 3rd voice on the tape, appears to be Burke (unless there was someone else present who has never been identified...)"

crimeADM: "A follow-up to the 911 question: Many people swear they heard the tape on one talk-show or another. Is there any possibility that this happened?"

stevethomas: "as far as i know, the only people who heard the tape were involved in the investigation -- da's office people, bpd personnel, engineers who enhanced it. if someone is out on the talk shows saying they heard it, who is this/these person(s)?"

My comment: - Does that make any sense at all?  The other detectives unanimously heard the third voice on the tape - - UNENHANCED - - and that later that was supported by the "enhanced" version.  But we have all heard the "enhanced" tape and most of us can't make it out without a script in front of us and even then only if we hold our pee and dim the lights and squint hard.  (And then, if they change the script, THAT is what we hear!)

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  In the beginning
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 02:08 PM - Forum: FBI involvement - Replies (13)

2000 November 14
About.Com Crime Chat
with former Detective Steve Thomas

crimeADM: "How soon on December 26 did the FBI become involved?"

stevethomas: "good Q, as Patsy on LKL suggested they weren't there. The FBI was involved from the early hours of the case, an FBI agent was at the house shortly after the body was found, the FBI was in the bpd sit room during the morning while it was being investigated as a kidnapping. FBI was in early, despite Ramsey assertions otherwise"

jameson comment:  Patsy and John were in shock that morning and they do not recall being told the FBI was there.  Yes, they heard the FBI was called but do not remember being introduced.  I believe if they had been, they would have been all over that man with questions and pinning their hopes on him and not the Boulder police. 

Instead, he left the house and went back to the BPD to discuss the case away from the parents, and we now know he was assuring the police this was probably, based on statistics, a case of a parent killing their child.

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  Did John leave the house that morning?
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 01:44 PM - Forum: December 26th - No Replies

1997 April 30 - Taped Interrogation interview of John Ramsey by Steve Thomas and Tom Trujillo in Colorado


NE Book Page 128:

Steve Thomas: "So the morning of the 26th do you recall checking all the doors, and they were locked?"

John Ramsey: "I believe I checked all the first-floor doors, yeah. I did go out once. I went out to the door that leads into the garage to see if it was locked becaue there's a bunch of boxes piled in front of it and you couldn't get to it from the inside of the garage.
So I did, infact, go out of the house once, which would have been for, you know, half a minute."

Steve Thomas: "And that was from where to where?"

John Ramsey:
"I went out the side door around to the back of the garage to see if that garage door into the garage was locked."

Steve Thomas: "And then immediately back into the house?"

John Ramsey: "Yeah."

Steve Thomas: "And that wasn't an excursion that exceeded 30 seconds?"

John Ramsey: "No, at max"

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  Who had keys to the house
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-27-2017, 01:40 PM - Forum: The House at 755 15th Street, Boulder, CO - Replies (1)

According to Schiller/Brennan

Who had keys to the Ramsey house?


Fleet White (friend) - PMPT 179
Jay Pettipiece (painter) - PMPT 435
Joe Barnhill (neighbor) - PMPT 179
John Andrew Ramsey - PMPT 179
John Ramsey - PMPT 179
John Fernie (friend) - PMPT 179
Linda Pugh (housekeeper) - PMPT 179
Linda Wilcox (housekeeper) - PMPT 145
Patsy Ramsey - PMPT 179
Nedra Paugh (relative) - PMPT 179
Suzanne Savage (babysitter) - PMPT 145


1999 February 18 - Lawrence Schillers book, "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town

Page 179:

"In April 1997, Ellis Armistead, an investigator hired by the Ramseys, would tell the police that there were twenty more extra keys outstanding. In the end, however, the detective could find only nine poeple who said they had keys. Six of the keys were returned. Three were missing. The Police soon learned that the front door locked automatically when it closed."

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  Meyer and Deters in PMPT
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-26-2017, 10:45 AM - Forum: Stun Gun - Replies (1)

John Meyer, a board certified forensic pathologist and the only pathologist who measured and closely examined the injuries on JonBenet, concluded that:

"The injuries on JonBenet's face and back were, in fact, consistent with those produced by a stun gun." (Page 431, PMPT pb)

Also, other pathologists agreed the body of JonBenet would NOT have to be exhumed to determine for sure if the injuries were consistent with stun gun injuries. The photos were proof enough.

"Soon after, Ainsworth learned of a 1988 Larimer County murder in which a stun gun had been used on a thirteen-month-old girl, Michaela Hughes, who had been sexually assaulted and killed. Ainsworth met with Dr. Robert Deters, the pathologist on the case, and showed him the autopsy photos of JonBenet. Deters agreed that the marks were consistent with a stun-gun injury, but he didn't think the body had to be exhumed. Nothing more would be learned by examining the skin tissue." (Page 431, PMPT pb)

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  what does the position tell us?
Posted by: jameson245 - 02-26-2017, 10:35 AM - Forum: position of the body - Replies (1)

Let's talk about the position of the body. We know her hands were above her head, not neatly folded on her chest as is normal position for burial. We now her feet were exposed because Fleet White told how he touched her feet and they were cold. I don't think that is the act of a person who loved the child. The blanket being tossed on her, that could have been because the killer didn't want to look at his "work" - it really had not been the crime he imagined - or it may have just been incidental, he tossed her and the blanket in there and didn't carefully place the blanket at all. JMO

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